The timeline it's over he's been the best player based on almost every metric, in a poor Barca team. Won Copa America as Pott was la Liga top scorer again and has the highest g/a of anyone in the world, who do you suggest should have took it over him?
If for nothing else the Copa America would win him it. Always been the accusation that he hadn't done much (relatively) on the international scene, and he's answered that.
Exactly a huge achievement which is always overlooked, dragged them through very tough qualifying a few times as wellEven that accusation was bollocks. He carried Argentina to a World Cup final.
I think it's going back a couple of years isn't it cos it was cancelled last year. Not really about what he's done at PSG.Seems like Messi won it based on his name. Has he done much for PSG?
I think it's going back a couple of years isn't it cos it was cancelled last year. Not really about what he's done at PSG.
It's just a strikers award though. How many times in the last 20 years has another position won it?
It's just a strikers award though. How many times in the last 20 years has another position won it?
Mascherano was their best player that world cup by the wayEven that accusation was bollocks. He carried Argentina to a World Cup final.
I think you have to go all the way back to 1990 & Lothar Matthaus for a defensive winner......
Messi won the golden ball with motm award in every game bar the final if I remember correctlyMascherano was their best player that world cup by the way
Messi won the golden ball with motm award in every game bar the final if I remember correctly
No Cannavaro in 2006. Messi and Ronaldo have rightly dominated since.
Even the one Modric won was undeserved.
But it's all players that operate in the final third. Out of that list there are 2 in the last 20 years that play further back.Winners in the last 20 years:
Messi
Modric
Ronaldo
Kaka
Cannavaro
Ronaldinho
Shevchenko
Nedved
Ronaldo
So 3 strikers out of 9 winners.
It's just a strikers award though. How many times in the last 20 years has another position won it?
It's just a strikers award though. How many times in the last 20 years has another position won it?
He was superb, my point is that Messi won FIFA player of the tournament and made the world cup final and people still throw shit at him for not performing in that world cup. Portugal were knocked out in the group but nobody mentions that when they talk about Ronaldos international accomplishmentsHe was good in the group stage against Nigeria, Bosnia and Iran , went missing mostly from that point on .. I think he got 1 assist in the 4 other games if I remember
Messi won the ADIDAS award at the tournament, who also sponsored him at the time
Mascherano was superb from the off
But it's all players that operate in the final third. Out of that list there are 2 in the last 20 years that play further back.
He was superb, my point is that Messi won player of the tournament and made the world cup final and people still throw shit at him for not performing in that world cup. Portugal were knocked out in the group but nobody mentions that when they talk about Ronaldos international accomplishments
Fair enough game of opinions and awards like this are basically there to create debate, obviously it depends on so many different conditions to be the 'best'. Which year and who should have won it over them?I genuinely don't care about messi or Ronaldo.. they've both won this trophy when they genuinley shouldn't have
Fair enough game of opinions and awards like this are basically there to create debate, obviously it depends on so many different conditions to be the 'best'. Which year and who should have won it over them?
Again it's just a sign of how superhuman cr7 and Messi have been. Ronaldo scored 60 goals that year and won the champions League hard not to give it himLahm was 2014 , the bayern players who won the league , then won the world cup , the German cups .
Neuer came 3rd , Ronaldo won it
Lahm for many should have won it
German title
German cup
World Cup
Champions league team of the season
Again it's just a sign of how superhuman cr7 and Messi have been. Ronaldo scored 60 goals that year and won the champions League hard not to give it him
To be fair as stated , this award is basically mates , plus who pays who for their vote .
It's pretty shambolic and has been for well over a decade
Yes I’m sure Messi has paid for all 7 of his ballon d’ors. It’s a good job Ronaldo has pals or he’d not have any either.
For such a shambolic award I am surprised you only have issue with one year. Even this year you admit it’s a close call
I've also got issues with 2014 , which Ronaldo won btw .. it's a shambles of a trophy these days
Lewandowski , who should have won it last year but for covid .. should have won it this year imo
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