Bad news: negotiations are not taking place

MichaelCCFC

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(kcic mailout 18 July 2014)


“sisu should never have been allowed to take over the club and run it the way they have done. They are an example of how a bad owner can destroy a football club and it should never be able to happen again". Damian Collins MP who is leading calls to force changes in football governance http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/sky-blues-situation-could-force-7445318

After the high of the march, this week has been another low with everything we are hearing being that despite Fisher saying sisu will talk, sisu have not contacted acl and there are no negotiations taking place

We desperately hope we're wrong but it’s looking very much like what we’re seeing is another sisu spin campaign, with Seppala’s open letter raising hopes of a return to the Ricoh while in truth sisu’s strategy and tactics sadly don't change at all: pursuing legal routes not negotiation, acl not being paid money they are owed by sisu, sisu using spin to create muddle and confusion and if it follows sisu's usual pattern they will no doubt soon be claiming it’s all someone else’s fault

We would love sisu to prove us wrong but actions speak louder than words and if we judge sisu by their actions it points to just one thing: we are not returning to the Ricoh for the new season. And to be honest, after so many of sisu’s claims have proved to be completely untrue - forced out of the Ricoh, conspiracy against them, site of new ground to be announced in three weeks etc etc etc - does anyone believe a word they say anymore?

We are so desperate for some good news that we clutch at any hint or rumour of a return to the Ricoh - and how we would love sisu to show they have contacted acl and negotiations are happening - but is the truth what some people are now saying: the future of Coventry City F.C. lies in the hands of just one person – Joy Seppala - and she has no interest in football and no interest in Coventry; her only motivation is financial gain for herself and her investors?

There is no gloss to put on this – we truly believed there was a window of opportunity to get us back to the Ricoh for the new season but with no negotiations taking place the prospect of another season at NTFC is utterly depressing. As long as CCFC exists kcic will continue to fight but we have to do so knowing that sisu chose to move to NTFC and are choosing to stay at NTFC for the coming season


Tough choices - Sky Blue Trust meeting Monday 21 July 7.30pm at The Squirrel CV1 2GY



  • kicking off the new season at NTFC means City fans will again have to make decisions no supporters should be faced with
  • this Monday - 21 July - Sky Blue Trust members will be voting on proposals about things like the sixfields boycott and contacting known or suspected sisu investors
  • after their fantastic efforts with the march, the Trust deserve a good turnout at their meeting
  • but Trust members can still vote even if they can’t make the meeting by using the ‘proxy’ form available at www.skybluetrust.co.uk/attachments/article/401/Proxy%20form.pdf

Full details of the Trust meeting are at
www.skybluetrust.co.uk/index.php/agm and the proposals are copied below.

Finally...

We extend our very best wishes for the Nuneaton game and the rest of the season, to Steven Pressley who has again this week spoken out about how great it would be for the team to return to the Ricoh (www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9384261/sky-bet-league-one-coventry-manager-steven-pressley-keen-to-see-club-return-to-ricoh-arena)

Good luck SP!

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Sky Blue Trust proposals to be voted on by Trust members

The Trust can no longer sit on the fence while our Club is being destroyed. The Trust must represent and give voice to its members, and in particular must:

1. Call for a complete supporters' boycott of City matches at Sixfields.
2. Increase pressure on the Football League to bring about a return of the Club to the Ricoh Arena from the start of the 2014/15 season, by using their powers to encourage the Club and its owners to enter into negotiations with Coventry City Council, ACL and other interested parties who could facilitate such a return, and to ensure that any proposed return is approved by the League as quickly as possible.
3. Take over the
www.FixFootball.co.uk petition and use the Trust's fighting fund, other resources and links with Supporters Direct and other fan groups to promote it.
4. Start a campaign of contacting known or suspected SISU investors, drawing their attention to the current position.

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We owe it to ourselves and future generation of Coventry City supporters to make it difficult or impossible for any disreputable group, firm, organisation or individual to ever become owners of CCFC.

With that in in mind the Trust must lobby Coventry City Council and ACL to:

1.Ensure that before any future disposal of a freehold or leasehold interest in all or part of the Ricoh Arena to new CCFC owners can take place, the potential owners must agree to significant Supporters' representation on CCFC's new Board of Directors, and

2. Ensure that any potential new owners of CCFC must discuss their plans for the club with CCFC's supporters, answer the supporters' questions about their approach and reach broad agreement with the supporters before any future disposal of a freehold or leasehold interest in all or part of the Ricoh Arena to CCFC takes place.

In addition, the Trust must, as soon as possible, make contact with other fan groups at football clubs where they have taken a more democratic approach to the ownership and control of the organisation etc to ensure that we can propose a suitable “Supporters Representation” approach.
 

Samo

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Why don't you just tell us if you hear that something IS happening because to be honest you are depressing me.
 

Samo

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Have a acl and sisu confirmed to you they are not talking?
Not as far as I'm aware but kcic seem to be labouring under the illusion that they will be informed.
 

Spionkop

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Michael, keep plugging away. ANYTHING that keeps the attention on Sisu, negotiations etc, has got to be good.
 

covmark

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I'd rather no one knew anything until a deal was done, no bullshit spin, just sit down, sign it up and then inform everyone. Don't see the point in these Kcic releases.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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Why would ACL or Sisu or CCC keep, what is in effect, a one-man-band lead minority radical supporters protest group, in the loop about any negotiations??

Its about as likely as Astra Zeneca & Pfizer keeping PETA & "Occupy" informed on the progress of their takeover bid.....
 

hill83

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Please what part of the newsletter do you disagree with ?
I disagree with the entire premise, which is a fabricated d-day invented by the KCIC group which ultimately is just any other day.
It isn't known if there is any negotiations. So this is yet more attention seeking.
I can't specifically pick anything I agree or disagree with in it because I won't be reading it.

And if negotiations are taking place and we end up back at the Ricoh, it's a double win.

1. We are back at the Ricoh
2. No more 'look at me' mail-outs.
 
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shy_tall_knight

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Keep going Michael, I think many on hear who have supported the move to Sixfielfd by attending games there or have been anti ACL are now struggling following the JR ruling to justify their previous stance. I like the idea of contacting SISU's investors nice if they can find out who their investors are.

Keep going Michael, all it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing.
 

Samo

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covcity4life

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I disagree with the entire premise, which is a fabricated d-day invented by the KCIC group which ultimately is just any other day.
It isn't known if there is any negotiations. So this is yet more attention seeking.
I can't specifically pick anything I agree or disagree with in it because I won't be reading it.
yeah what he said
 

BigSquirrelRegis

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I will be going to a couple of games in the early part of the season regardless of where they are played. I have a 5 & 7 year old who will be brainwashed by their Liverpool supporting grandparents or Man Utd, Man City and Chelsea supporting school friends if i don't!
 

ajsccfc

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Was this Friday deadline before you'd be forced to make the statement an arbitrary thing or has anything actually changed today?
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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I like the idea of contacting SISU's investors nice if they can find out who their investors are.
Yeah...good luck with that task.

Dear Anonymous hard-nosed money-grabbing hedge fund investor.....

...our poor little football club you've never heard of is getting shat on....please re-arrange your financial investment portfolio accordingly....

lots of love, kcic.
 

Kingokings204

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How does Michael know if discussions aren't happening? Is this a fact?
 

Limey

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Feeling very down on the situation but this is currently the reality. I agree with the proposals set out by Michael.

I still believe that SISU will have to bow to supporter power. There is no club with supporters. For that reason I am NOPM.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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'4. Start a campaign of contacting known or suspected SISU investors, drawing their attention to the current position.'

Before any investors commit money they are given an idea of the risks attached to recouping their investment. It will not matter to them if their investment in CCFC fails because the loss will be made up by investments elsewhere in their portfolio and those who put money in years ago will have long accepted that it isn't coming back. Sorry but really don't see the merit in this one.
 

Samo

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I will be going to a couple of games in the early part of the season regardless of where they are played. I have a 5 & 7 year old who will be brainwashed by their Liverpool supporting grandparents or Man Utd, Man City and Chelsea supporting school friends if i don't!
You bloody take em BSR, safe in the knowledge that it will change nothing and ensure we still have young fans to support future teams.
 

ajsccfc

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The thread title of these mailouts should really say it's a mailout instead of misleading razzmatazz.
 

torchomatic

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Are you really surprised that SISU don't keep you in the loop?

(kcic mailout 18 July 2014)


“sisu should never have been allowed to take over the club and run it the way they have done. They are an example of how a bad owner can destroy a football club and it should never be able to happen again". Damian Collins MP who is leading calls to force changes in football governance http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/sky-blues-situation-could-force-7445318

After the high of the march, this week has been another low with everything we are hearing being that despite Fisher saying sisu will talk, sisu have not contacted acl and there are no negotiations taking place

We desperately hope we're wrong but it’s looking very much like what we’re seeing is another sisu spin campaign, with Seppala’s open letter raising hopes of a return to the Ricoh while in truth sisu’s strategy and tactics sadly don't change at all: pursuing legal routes not negotiation, acl not being paid money they are owed by sisu, sisu using spin to create muddle and confusion and if it follows sisu's usual pattern they will no doubt soon be claiming it’s all someone else’s fault

We would love sisu to prove us wrong but actions speak louder than words and if we judge sisu by their actions it points to just one thing: we are not returning to the Ricoh for the new season. And to be honest, after so many of sisu’s claims have proved to be completely untrue - forced out of the Ricoh, conspiracy against them, site of new ground to be announced in three weeks etc etc etc - does anyone believe a word they say anymore?

We are so desperate for some good news that we clutch at any hint or rumour of a return to the Ricoh - and how we would love sisu to show they have contacted acl and negotiations are happening - but is the truth what some people are now saying: the future of Coventry City F.C. lies in the hands of just one person – Joy Seppala - and she has no interest in football and no interest in Coventry; her only motivation is financial gain for herself and her investors?

There is no gloss to put on this – we truly believed there was a window of opportunity to get us back to the Ricoh for the new season but with no negotiations taking place the prospect of another season at NTFC is utterly depressing. As long as CCFC exists kcic will continue to fight but we have to do so knowing that sisu chose to move to NTFC and are choosing to stay at NTFC for the coming season


Tough choices - Sky Blue Trust meeting Monday 21 July 7.30pm at The Squirrel CV1 2GY



  • kicking off the new season at NTFC means City fans will again have to make decisions no supporters should be faced with
  • this Monday - 21 July - Sky Blue Trust members will be voting on proposals about things like the sixfields boycott and contacting known or suspected sisu investors
  • after their fantastic efforts with the march, the Trust deserve a good turnout at their meeting
  • but Trust members can still vote even if they can’t make the meeting by using the ‘proxy’ form available at www.skybluetrust.co.uk/attachments/article/401/Proxy%20form.pdf

Full details of the Trust meeting are at
www.skybluetrust.co.uk/index.php/agm and the proposals are copied below.

Finally...

We extend our very best wishes for the Nuneaton game and the rest of the season, to Steven Pressley who has again this week spoken out about how great it would be for the team to return to the Ricoh (www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9384261/sky-bet-league-one-coventry-manager-steven-pressley-keen-to-see-club-return-to-ricoh-arena)

Good luck SP!

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Sky Blue Trust proposals to be voted on by Trust members

The Trust can no longer sit on the fence while our Club is being destroyed. The Trust must represent and give voice to its members, and in particular must:

1. Call for a complete supporters' boycott of City matches at Sixfields.
2. Increase pressure on the Football League to bring about a return of the Club to the Ricoh Arena from the start of the 2014/15 season, by using their powers to encourage the Club and its owners to enter into negotiations with Coventry City Council, ACL and other interested parties who could facilitate such a return, and to ensure that any proposed return is approved by the League as quickly as possible.
3. Take over the
www.FixFootball.co.uk petition and use the Trust's fighting fund, other resources and links with Supporters Direct and other fan groups to promote it.
4. Start a campaign of contacting known or suspected SISU investors, drawing their attention to the current position.

-----------------------------------

We owe it to ourselves and future generation of Coventry City supporters to make it difficult or impossible for any disreputable group, firm, organisation or individual to ever become owners of CCFC.

With that in in mind the Trust must lobby Coventry City Council and ACL to:

1.Ensure that before any future disposal of a freehold or leasehold interest in all or part of the Ricoh Arena to new CCFC owners can take place, the potential owners must agree to significant Supporters' representation on CCFC's new Board of Directors, and

2. Ensure that any potential new owners of CCFC must discuss their plans for the club with CCFC's supporters, answer the supporters' questions about their approach and reach broad agreement with the supporters before any future disposal of a freehold or leasehold interest in all or part of the Ricoh Arena to CCFC takes place.

In addition, the Trust must, as soon as possible, make contact with other fan groups at football clubs where they have taken a more democratic approach to the ownership and control of the organisation etc to ensure that we can propose a suitable “Supporters Representation” approach.
 

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TIM FISHER GUILTY OF MURDER

In today's mailout: some geezer tells us his enthusiasm has been killed

THE CLUB IS GOING OUT OF BUSINESS

Join me later where I discuss this possibility