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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sp...ventry-city-competition-cardiff-city-10128784
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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I hope this is a step in the right direction but on the current level of affordability for us. Get out there and scout emerging cheaper talent. With a view of letting them develop their careers at CCFC.
Hope that is the new(old) plan
 

I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Jan 1, 2016
  • #3
Stories from September.
 

stupot07

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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https://media1.giphy.com/media/otl1D4YfGSGGs/giphy.gif


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Nick

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  • Jan 1, 2016
  • #5
Has Julian Gray gone?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
Stories from September.
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Bloody hell it just appeared under the Cole Biggi story for me

Thought brilliant this is what we need to do like in the days when we got Westwood Gunnerson Fox and Dan. However base it on our current level with kids like this.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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dongonzalos said:
I hope this is a step in the right direction but on the current level of affordability for us. Get out there and scout emerging cheaper talent. With a view of letting them develop their careers at CCFC.
Hope that is the new(old) plan
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Am all that for a plan. Far better than the look back to players who've been here before, or used to be good.

Admittedly it relies on us getting the right players...(!) and there's no guarantee you won't get the next Gary Deegan; but it's the only way forward, really, if we're going to end up halfway sustainable long term.
 

Nick

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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dongonzalos said:
Bloody hell it just appeared under the Cole Biggi story for me 

Thought brilliant this is what we need to do like in the days when we got Westwood Gunnerson Fox and Dan. However base it on our current level with kids like this.
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Like Stokes and Vincelot then?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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Nick said:
Has Julian Gray gone?
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I can't like on here sorry
But I would if I could
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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Nick said:
Like Stokes and Vincelot then?
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Yes exactly like that. I definitely think that is the way forward for us. I know this is controversial but also like Hussey
 

stupot07

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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Nick said:
Like Stokes and Vincelot then?
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And Lamieres


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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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stupot07 said:
And Lamieres


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Kind of with him but I was more thinking players who have excelled at a lower level and you are prepared to invest a little like with Dann and Fox or in our case Vincelot and you are prepared to invest a Little to get them.
 

Nick

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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stupot07 said:
And Lamieres


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Forgot about him.

Also Andy Rose...
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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Nick said:
Forgot about him.

Also Andy Rose...
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Not really thinking like this more the players at a lower level who are clearly performing better than that level. I suppose in a way Rose may actually fit the Bill if you think of the MLS as a lower level.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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dongonzalos said:
Kind of with him but I was more thinking players who have excelled at a lower level and you are prepared to invest a little like with Dann and Fox or in our case Vincelot and you are prepared to invest a Little to get them.
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Wouldn't put Vincelot in that category tbh. He's a player who's had a track record at this level, who's been brought in to do a specific job but... given his age, he's never likely to attract the attention of teams bigger than us, so he's not here for the sell-on or top flight standard.

He is what he is.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Wouldn't put Vincelot in that category tbh. He's a player who's had a track record at this level, who's been brought in to do a specific job but... given his age, he's never likely to attract the attention of teams bigger than us, so he's not here for the sell-on or top flight standard.

He is what he is.
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Yes some you will sell on for profit others will just be guaranteed to do the job as they have excelled from a lower place (relegated team).
 

Hobo

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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It is the way to go...but remember these types of players are other clubs Maddison's and Wilson's...it works both ways...but that is football.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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dongonzalos said:
Kind of with him but I was more thinking players who have excelled at a lower level and you are prepared to invest a little like with Dann and Fox or in our case Vincelot and you are prepared to invest a Little to get them.
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The combined fees of Westwood, Dann and Fox were circa £2 million. We sold them for less.

We lost money on them.
 

mechaishida

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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Grendel said:
The combined fees of Westwood, Dann and Fox were circa £2 million. We sold them for less.

We lost money on them.
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Really? I haven't looked into the deals, or anything, but wasn't Dann sold for nearly £2.5 million?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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Grendel said:
The combined fees of Westwood, Dann and Fox were circa £2 million. We sold them for less.

We lost money on them.
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We didn't stick to the plan
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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dongonzalos said:
We didn't stick to the plan
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If you are correct......

Blues' supporters have voiced their conerns on our Coventry City forum after the club accepted £3.5m bids from the Blues and Wolves for the club captain yesterday.

Dann has agreed to join Birmingham today.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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dongonzalos said:
If you are correct......

Blues' supporters have voiced their conerns on our Coventry City forum after the club accepted £3.5m bids from the Blues and Wolves for the club captain yesterday.

Dann has agreed to join Birmingham today.
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There is a document LS showed on here that showed we made less than half a million on Dann and Fox
 

mechaishida

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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Grendel said:
There is a document LS showed on here that showed we made less than half a million on Dann and Fox
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Well, eyes are set to stunned. That's pretty disgusting, tbh.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 1, 2016
  • #24
Ilkeston are a team we should be looking at for young players

Rai Simmons - recently signed for Chesterfield

Rhys Dolan - recently signed for Barnsley

Kieran Wallace/Che Adams - recently signed for Sheffield United

Lewis Walker - son of Des, recently had a trial at Chelsea

Jordan Wheatley - Spurs and Leicester watching him
 

stupot07

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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We made £225k profit on fox, he was part of the leaked documents. Bought for £400k sold for £700k, Walsall got 25% above what we paid for him, so we made £225k.


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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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Grendel said:
There is a document LS showed on here that showed we made less than half a million on Dann and Fox
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What document and who is LS?
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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dongonzalos said:
What document and who is LS?
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Lord Summerisle showed a statement from Ranson that revealed the profit margin was tiny
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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So what are you saying was Birmingham's record signing for a defender?
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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dongonzalos said:
So what are you saying was Birmingham's record signing for a defender?
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Er...I am not. I don't know.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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Grendel said:
Er...I am not. I don't know.
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Not to sure what you are saying then?
Stu says we made £250k on Fox
Dann is reported to have gone for .2.5 million.?

Even with sell on clauses how did we lose money?
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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dongonzalos said:
Not to sure what you are saying then?
Stu says we made £250k on Fox
Dann is reported to have gone for .2.5 million.?

Even with sell on clauses how did we lose money?
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I included Westwood who lost us £750,000
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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Grendel said:
I included Westwood who lost us £750,000
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I always thought we got Westwood when his contract finished so pretty cheaply
 

stupot07

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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dongonzalos said:
Not to sure what you are saying then?
Stu says we made £250k on Fox
Dann is reported to have gone for .2.5 million.?

Even with sell on clauses how did we lose money?
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Just to highlight, the fox sale was reported in the papers as £1.5m so you can't believe what they report in the papers.


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stupot07

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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Sky Blue Pete said:
I always thought we got Westwood when his contract finished so pretty cheaply
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See grendals post.

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Grendel

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  • Jan 1, 2016
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Sky Blue Pete said:
I always thought we got Westwood when his contract finished so pretty cheaply
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http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/carlisle-united/latest/westwood-sold-to-coventry-for-750-000-1.125803
 
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