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Flying Fokker

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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There’s more to this than he lets on…

 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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Flying Fokker said:
There’s more to this than he lets on…

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It's hard for some fans to understand but unless your team has been so poor for so long , and have had stadium groundshares and multiple administrations inbetween .. you truly can't comprehend how hard it was for people to follow a club that in truth looked hopeless in every way .

We are a well supported club with huge growing potential still .
 
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dadgad

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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Multi factorial and the sneaking suspicion amongst all footy fans that the Premier League is shit
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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Evo1883 said:
It's hard for some fans to understand but unless your team has been so poor for so long , and have had stadium groundshares and multiple administrations inbetween .. you truly can't comprehend how hard it was for people to follow a club that in truth looked hopeless in every way .

We are a well supported club with huge growing potential still .
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it used to wind me up no end hearing people say a capacity of 20,000 would be fine, and that we’d struggle to ever fill the ground even in the Premier League. It’s a different game now and if by some miracle we did go up a capacity of 32,000 would not nearly be enough. Potential is huge, we were just very late to start realising it.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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Ring Of Steel said:
it used to wind me up no end hearing people say a capacity of 20,000 would be fine, and that we’d struggle to ever fill the ground even in the Premier League. It’s a different game now and if by some miracle we did go up a capacity of 32,000 would not nearly be enough. Potential is huge, we were just very late to start realising it.
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It takes years to build a club up again and a fraction of the time to chuck it away. Which is why when you finally hit on something that's working, you rip it up at your peril.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
It takes years to build a club up again and a fraction of the time to chuck it away. Which is why when you finally hit on something that's working, you rip it up at your peril.
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don’t disagree at all.

In my view we were an anomaly for decades, I don’t think any other club in the league had as long a run of depressing crap as us, and our crowds still held up compared to ‘similar’ clubs. Promotion and every game would comfortably sell out, no doubt about it.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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Ring Of Steel said:
don’t disagree at all.

In my view we were an anomaly for decades, I don’t think any other club in the league had as long a run of depressing crap as us, and our crowds still held up compared to ‘similar’ clubs. Promotion and every game would comfortably sell out, no doubt about it.
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You could argue Portsmouth to be fair, but they at least won a trophy before falling down the pyramid.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
You could argue Portsmouth to be fair, but they at least won a trophy before falling down the pyramid.
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they had a few promotions in the 80s too. We had that famous stat didn’t we- only team to never have a top 6 finish in bloody centuries or however long it actually was
 

skybluegod

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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Ring Of Steel said:
don’t disagree at all.

In my view we were an anomaly for decades, I don’t think any other club in the league had as long a run of depressing crap as us, and our crowds still held up compared to ‘similar’ clubs. Promotion and every game would comfortably sell out, no doubt about it.
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Intrigued to why you think every game sells out? I think we would sell out a lot more but not every game I don't think.

We couldn't sell out against spurs in the cup just a few weeks ago. A top 6 team, at home. Of course that was mainly put down to prices but I will bet it will be significantly more when we get to the premier
 

skybluecam

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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skybluegod said:
Intrigued to why you think every game sells out? I think we would sell out a lot more but not every game I don't think.

We couldn't sell out against spurs in the cup just a few weeks ago. A top 6 team, at home. Of course that was mainly put down to prices but I will bet it will be significantly more when we get to the premier
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Pretty sure they would sell out.

We sold 22k STs this year, could probably easily sell 25k in the prem. Then the remainder would get snapped up on a match basis because people would get fomo.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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skybluegod said:
Intrigued to why you think every game sells out? I think we would sell out a lot more but not every game I don't think.

We couldn't sell out against spurs in the cup just a few weeks ago. A top 6 team, at home. Of course that was mainly put down to prices but I will bet it will be significantly more when we get to the premier
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doesn’t matter, they’d all sell out. People who’ve never been to a game before would all of a sudden want tickets. It’s wanting to be a part of “the product” as much as to see us, which I don’t like but that’s how the game is now.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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The Prem would be a nightmare, ground would be too small, demand would see ticket prices rise dramatically, plastic fans ruining the atmosphere, getting smashed by the big billionaire clubs, VAR !
Not sure it floats my boat
 
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covcity4life

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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Ashdown said:
The Prem would be a nightmare, ground would be too small, demand would see ticket prices rise dramatically, plastic fans ruining the atmosphere, getting smashed by the big billionaire clubs, VAR !
Not sure it floats my boat
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Let's hope we get relegated then
 
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Irish Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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I’m not sure where the 11k comes from. By my calculations (which may be wrong), 5 years ago we were in our League One Championship season playing at St Andrews. I think our average attendance there was in the region of 6k? I would have thought our average at the moment is about 25k at least? Therefore increase is about 19k.
The season after this was the COVID season so attendance zero. The season before, the last before the St Andrews move, we averaged 12k. Whichever season he is looking at our attendance has increased by more than 11k.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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Irish Sky Blue said:
I’m not sure where the 11k comes from. By my calculations (which may be wrong), 5 years ago we were in our League One Championship season playing at St Andrews. I think our average attendance there was in the region of 6k? I would have thought our average at the moment is about 25k at least? Therefore increase is about 19k.
The season after this was the COVID season so attendance zero. The season before, the last before the St Andrews move, we averaged 12k. Whichever season he is looking at our attendance has increased by more than 11k.
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it’s an old video I suspect, seeing as it has Ipswich as a non-premier team
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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Good times cause more fans to come, beyond shit times cause fans to stay at home and grumble in front of TVs.

Matter of life, Think all the talk of stadium size was due to the lack of belief anyone had to escape the shit we were in (plus While size and roads would of been shite, I always loved the idea of a butts park redevelopment with both clubs due to the location in the middle of the city).

The clubs biggest plus in this regard is that Warwickshire has no professional clubs either Rugby or Football. As such there is a massive potential fan base to pull from.
 
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Old Warwickshire lad

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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It’s time they took Coventry out of the West Midlands, and put it back in Warwickshire where it belongs.
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
You could argue Portsmouth to be fair, but they at least won a trophy before falling down the pyramid.
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And us
 
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Ashdown

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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Old Warwickshire lad said:
It’s time they took Coventry out of the West Midlands, and put it back in Warwickshire where it belongs.
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Absolutely
 
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MalcSB

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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Ring Of Steel said:
it’s an old video I suspect, seeing as it has Ipswich as a non-premier team
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It’s 8 months old.
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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skybluegod said:
Intrigued to why you think every game sells out? I think we would sell out a lot more but not every game I don't think.

We couldn't sell out against spurs in the cup just a few weeks ago. A top 6 team, at home. Of course that was mainly put down to prices but I will bet it will be significantly more when we get to the premier
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I’m pretty sure we’d sell out. It all depends on the amount of season ticket holders we have. (Success).

seeing the ‘big’ clubs come to the city is enough appeal. We’ve been out of the top flight for a generation.

Having said that, I’d rather see us enjoying success in this league.

I wonder if the yo-yo clubs had any boost and decline on their return to our league?
 

bigfatronssba

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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skybluegod said:
Intrigued to why you think every game sells out? I think we would sell out a lot more but not every game I don't think.

We couldn't sell out against spurs in the cup just a few weeks ago. A top 6 team, at home. Of course that was mainly put down to prices but I will bet it will be significantly more when we get to the premier
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Our lowest crowd this season was 24.5k (against Blackburn) with only about 1k away fans. A PL fixture would've seen 3k away fans so that would instantly have lifted it to a 26.5k crowd.
That's only 5k off capacity. Not unrealistic at all to expect crowds to rise by 5k
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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Ring Of Steel said:
it used to wind me up no end hearing people say a capacity of 20,000 would be fine, and that we’d struggle to ever fill the ground even in the Premier League. It’s a different game now and if by some miracle we did go up a capacity of 32,000 would not nearly be enough. Potential is huge, we were just very late to start realising it.
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The club realised in the late 90s as to where football was going. Had we not gone down in 2001, HR would've been very restrictive by about 2004.
It was right to look at a new ground, its just how it was managed that was the problem
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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bigfatronssba said:
The club realised in the late 90s as to where football was going. Had we not gone down in 2001, HR would've been very restrictive by about 2004.
It was right to look at a new ground, its just how it was managed that was the problem
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Timing too- we were on a downward spiral when we moved
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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Old Warwickshire lad said:
It’s time they took Coventry out of the West Midlands, and put it back in Warwickshire where it belongs.
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All my correspondence is Coventry, Warwickshire, I've never used WM at all.
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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bigfatronssba said:
The club realised in the late 90s as to where football was going. Had we not gone down in 2001, HR would've been very restrictive by about 2004.
It was right to look at a new ground, its just how it was managed that was the problem
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Very badly, the whole thing was a fiasco. Certainly looks better now Frasers have it. Coventry City Council were a disgrace from the start. Glad they now have nothing to do with the running of it
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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Gynnsthetonic said:
All my correspondence is Coventry, Warwickshire, I've never used WM at all.
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Royal Mail/Post Office consider us Warwickshire anyway.

If you ever get a receipt from a Coventry Post Office it will always have the branch address as Warwickshire
 
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Hobo

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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skybluegod said:
Intrigued to why you think every game sells out? I think we would sell out a lot more but not every game I don't think.

We couldn't sell out against spurs in the cup just a few weeks ago. A top 6 team, at home. Of course that was mainly put down to prices but I will bet it will be significantly more when we get to the premier
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Not Spurs first 11 though. That is why it didn't sell out.
 

bigfatronssba

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Hobo said:
Not Spurs first 11 though. That is why it didn't sell out.
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Plus it was £37 for an early round tie.

To be honest, if we had sold out that game, but then none of the more important league games then I would've been disappointed.

Lets face it, its Micky Mouse to get a huge crowd for a cup game just because its a PL team, to then have the crowd drop by half at the following league game
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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Gynnsthetonic said:
Very badly, the whole thing was a fiasco. Certainly looks better now Frasers have it. Coventry City Council were a disgrace from the start. Glad they now have nothing to do with the running of it
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How bad is it though that the people we elect to supposedly run the city in our interest, care so little about a civic asset (and one of the oldest organisations in the city) that it makes a man who was once described as Britain's worst employer look favourable to our club?
 

MalcSB

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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bigfatronssba said:
How bad is it though that the people we elect to supposedly run the city in our interest, care so little about a civic asset (and one of the oldest organisations in the city) that it makes a man who was once described as Britain's worst employer look favourable to our club?
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I’m sure there were people on here defending the council. Labour supporters, presumably.
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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bigfatronssba said:
How bad is it though that the people we elect to supposedly run the city in our interest, care so little about a civic asset (and one of the oldest organisations in the city) that it makes a man who was once described as Britain's worst employer look favourable to our club?
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Very bad, dinosaurs springs to mind.
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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Why a local authority was in control of running a football stadium I'll never know, a vanity project for some
 

bigfatronssba

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  • Oct 28, 2024
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MalcSB said:
I’m sure there were people on here defending the council. Labour supporters, presumably.
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I'm not sure it was that party political.

I spoke to some of the Tory councillors at the time and they were fairy honest with me that Sisu f*cked up with their judicial reviews. They went in on a principle of law. The law was absolutely on the councils side. Because of that they had no choice but to side with the Labour council.

But that doesn't mean it was right. If Sisu had made it a matter of morality, (that the ground was built using money from the taxpayers of Coventry to build a ground for our football club), then all opposition parties could've objected.

What the Council did with Wasps was legally ok, not necessarily morally
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 29, 2024
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Strangely our average gate has tracked almost exactly the average for the Championship or Division One as was from 2001/02.

The league average then was 15k and is now 21k (40%)

Our average in 2001 was 15,990 and this season is 26,873 (40.4%)

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