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Attendance percentage drop since SISU. (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Dec 14, 2017
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dongonzalos

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #36
Nick said:
How long would CCFC last for is the more important question?
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They would be picked up by someone who puts the clubs interests first
 
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The Bobster

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #37
clint van damme said:
don't disagree. But despite all that they're still here. I've no idea what their motivation is as they surely can't hold out any hope of recuperating their investment.
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Their motivation is until they sell the club the realty of their mismanagement as a hedge fund remains hidden . As a hedge fund they are a busted flush , no one will invest their funds in them . I suspect when they eventually sell it will be the end of Sisu. They have little to lose by hanging on . The council and Wasps both have risks if CCFC leave the Ricoh therefore Sisu see this and the emotional attachment of the fans as a means to minimise there losses (?) by extracting money from them ( out of court settlement) although it will not be revealed as that in the media.
 

Captain Dart

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #38
oucho said:
Owen Oyston is a rapist. I would take Tim Fisher, for all his failures, 100 times out of 100 over that sick c**t.
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Can we have a different choice please.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #39
dongonzalos said:
And some point during the 30 years they did actually care about the club though
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No they didn’t.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #40
Grendel said:
No they didn’t.
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Source
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #41
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Source
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Any Blackpool fan you speak to.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #42
Grendel said:
Any Blackpool fan you speak to.
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Like the Blackpool fans I spoke to on their demo?
 

Nick

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #43
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Like the Blackpool fans I spoke to on their demo?
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Surprised you could cuddle and talk at the same time


Blackpool away was like the undateables outside the ground
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #44
Nick said:
Surprised you could cuddle and talk at the same time
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Multi tasker me
 
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chiefdave

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #45
The interesting stat would be the % drop of the season before and after relegation and how that comapres to other relegated clubs.

Saying we're getting less in L2 than in the Championship isn't going to surprise anyone.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #46
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Like the Blackpool fans I spoke to on their demo?
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They have been trying to get rid of them for over 20 years
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #47
Grendel said:
They have been trying to get rid of them for over 20 years
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Yes but what about the first ten? I seem to also remember the massive demos when they got to the prem not
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #48
Nick said:
Surprised you could cuddle and talk at the same time


Blackpool away was like the undateables outside the ground
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You should have come on the demo then normal football fans both sexes all generations many different races.
 

Wheelfass

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #49
chiefdave said:
The interesting stat would be the % drop of the season before and after relegation and how that comapres to other relegated clubs.

Saying we're getting less in L2 than in the Championship isn't going to surprise anyone.
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Wouldn't be difficult for you to work out your suggested stat and I'd be interested in what you find. No it's not surprising that fans tend to stay away after a relegation but the 60% decrease in attendances is based over a 10 year tenure by the current owners and not just the seasons that followed relegation.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #50
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Yes but what about the first ten? I seem to also remember the massive demos when they got to the prem not
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There were huge protests about their premiership season.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #51
Away from football Oyston is a complete scum bag and someone who shouldn't be near football.

However, in terms of comparing Blackpool to Coventry? In modern history Blackpool have always been a smaller club, averaging less than 5000 throughout the 80's and 90's.

The Oyston ownership has been different and more personal than SISU, however our fall from grace in the past 10 years is incomparable. Furthermore, Blackpool are up for sale, something that won't be the case for Coventry for some time.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #52
pusbccfc said:
Away from football Oyston is a complete scum bag and someone who shouldn't be near football.

However, in terms of comparing Blackpool to Coventry? In modern history Blackpool have always been a smaller club, averaging less than 5000 throughout the 80's and 90's.

The Oyston ownership has been different and more personal than SISU, however our fall from grace in the past 10 years is incomparable. Furthermore, Blackpool are up for sale, something that won't be the case for Coventry for some time.
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To my knowledge fisher hasn’t taken out lawsuits trying to personally bankrupt fans, sepella hasn’t taken every single penny and put it in a tax exempt pension fund - sisu may be scraping the barrel but the oystens are underneath it.
 

Hobo

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #53
clint van damme said:
and yet they're still here. That tells me that NOPM, (whether people are doing it as part of a campaign or just because they've had enough), doesn't work.
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Yet on Sportstalk today talking about American football a journalist said, "the best way for fans to protest is not to go to the game and not support the team."
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #54
Grendel said:
There were huge protests about their premiership season.
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They did protest when they realised the money from the prem wasn't going into the team. That was towards the end of the season. The real protests started later.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #55
Grendel said:
To my knowledge fisher hasn’t taken out lawsuits trying to personally bankrupt fans, sepella hasn’t taken every single penny and put it in a tax exempt pension fund - sisu may be scraping the barrel but the oystens are underneath it.
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Exactly what I said, their ownership on a personal level is far worse.

What I was trying to say is our fall has been greater than theirs.
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #56
Hobo said:
Yet on Sportstalk today talking about American football a journalist said, "the best way for fans to protest is not to go to the game and not support the team."
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Did he say how many needed to not support their team? Because a reduction of 60% is significant and they're still here.
 

Hobo

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #57
clint van damme said:
Did he say how many needed to not support their team? Because a reduction of 60% is significant and they're still here.
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Which suggests our owners are not normal.
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #58
Hobo said:
Which suggests our owners are not normal.
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I think we can all agree on that at least.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #59
Grendel said:
To my knowledge fisher hasn’t taken out lawsuits trying to personally bankrupt fans, sepella hasn’t taken every single penny and put it in a tax exempt pension fund - sisu may be scraping the barrel but the oystens are underneath it.
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Nobody to my knowledge did anything to warrant Fisher taking out a lawsuit against them, although some came close. If by some miracle we got to the premier league you think the mega millions we would get would be invested into the club?????
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #60
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
They did protest when they realised the money from the prem wasn't going into the team. That was towards the end of the season. The real protests started later.
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No it started when Charlie Adam instigated court proceedings when the club refused to pay him a premier promotion bonus of £25,000. Trying to defend their position is laughable. Owen oysten earned more than Wayne Rooney in their first premier season.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #61
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Nobody to my knowledge did anything to warrant Fisher taking out a lawsuit against them, although some came close. If by some miracle we got to the premier league you think the mega millions we would get would be invested into the club?????
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No I think they’d sell it
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #62
Grendel said:
No it started when Charlie Adam instigated court proceedings when the club refused to pay him a premier promotion bonus of £25,000. Trying to defend their position is laughable. Owen oysten earned more than Wayne Rooney in their first premier season.
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I'm not defending them you said 30 years I'm saying the demos started years into their tenure. Im glad the old man went to prison also glad they had the windows broken of their restaurant. Im glad the oysens are suffering they deserve it. But enough about another club I just wish our owners would suffer as well. I wish a judge would order our owners to pay millions of pounds then presumably with your wealth you could buy the club. I would then take everything I have said about you and kiss your feet.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #63
Grendel said:
No I think they’d sell it
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And what would happen to the mega millions? Could you substitute tax exempt pension for tax haven based hedge fund perhaps?
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #64
skybluetony176 said:
And what would happen to the mega millions? Could you substitute tax exempt pension for tax haven based hedge fund perhaps?
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I don't know how you could possibly even think that Tony.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 15, 2017
  • #65
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
I don't know how you could possibly even think that Tony.
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Silly me. Perhaps I should have just dodged the question
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Dec 16, 2017
  • #66
chiefdave said:
The interesting stat would be the % drop of the season before and after relegation and how that comapres to other relegated clubs.

Saying we're getting less in L2 than in the Championship isn't going to surprise anyone.
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Not really that interesting as the way SISU has ran the club has caused the relegations.
So they caused that drop whatever way you look at it
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Dec 16, 2017
  • #67
Wheelfass said:
Wouldn't be difficult for you to work out your suggested stat and I'd be interested in what you find. No it's not surprising that fans tend to stay away after a relegation but the 60% decrease in attendances is based over a 10 year tenure by the current owners and not just the seasons that followed relegation.
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Also who caused the relegation?
 
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stupot07

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  • Dec 16, 2017
  • #68
dongonzalos said:
Also who caused the relegation?
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A mixture or inevitability (championship), sisu, management and coaches and players, and lack of revenue.

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dongonzalos

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  • Dec 16, 2017
  • #69
stupot07 said:
A mixture or inevitability (championship), sisu, management and coaches and players, and lack of revenue.

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Ultimately the buck stops with SISU.
They choose the Directors, The Chairmen, The manager, The playing budget. The long term and short term strategy for the club.
Joy Sepalla says yes or no if a player sale and purchase of s significant amount is to be authorised.
99% SISU 1 % Lady Luck.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Dec 16, 2017
  • #70
dongonzalos said:
Ultimately the book stops with SISU.
They choose the Directors, The Chairmen, The manager, The playing budget. The long term and short term strategy for the club.
Joy Sepalla says yes or no if a player sale and purchase of s significant amount is to be authorised.
99% SISU 1 % Lady Luck.
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It's the buck stops, what on earth did you think that expression meant?
 
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