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Attempted coup in Turkey (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Captain Dart
  • Start date Jul 15, 2016
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Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2016
  • #1
Hell in a hand cart, here we come.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36809083
 

Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2016
  • #2
Both say they're in control.
 

Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2016
  • #3
BBC correspondent for Turkey says it will fail!
 

Johnnythespider

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2016
  • #4
Just switched on all social media is being blocked

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eastwoodsdustman

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2016
  • #5
just hope it doesn't descend into a civil war. Its the last thing the area needs.
 

Johnnythespider

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2016
  • #6
Military saying they have taken control of the country

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Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2016
  • #7
There is a right to revolution when Gov acts as a tyranny.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Jul 15, 2016
  • #8
Philosorapter said:
There is a right to revolution when Gov acts as a tyranny.
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When shall we start?


Serious note: You appear to be applauding these action...but what if said revolutionaries turn out to be of ISIS persuasion?

...onwards & upwards PUSB
 

Johnnythespider

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2016
  • #9
Philosorapter said:
There is a right to revolution when Gov acts as a tyranny.
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But it's a military coup not a revolution, if it was a revolution why would they take down all forms of communication

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Liquid Gold

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  • Jul 15, 2016
  • #10
Don't the Turkish military have a special status over there. Ataturk was a colonel or something so after the Ottoman Empire finished and it became Turkey it was written into the constitution that the military were obliged to step in during special constitutional crisis. I'm surprised this didn't happen when Erdogan tried to centralise all the power to his office.
 
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Covstu

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  • Jul 15, 2016
  • #11
This is fucked up, media taken off the air also. Can we move our little island to the Caribbean or somewhere uneventful?
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Jul 16, 2016
  • #12
SkyblueBazza said:
When shall we start?

Serious note: You appear to be applauding these action...but what if said revolutionaries turn out to be of ISIS persuasion?
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I believe in self-determination. Its why I shuddered when I heard a referendum being described as populist. As something that was bad. It showed an utter contempt for the people your meant to be representing.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Jul 16, 2016
  • #13
Looks like its failed. Pity, so Erdogan's autocratic Islamist agenda will continue to destroy the legacy of the secular democratic Ataturk. Next step President for life?
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jul 16, 2016
  • #14
SkyblueBazza said:
When shall we start?


Serious note: You appear to be applauding these action...but what if said revolutionaries turn out to be of ISIS persuasion?

...onwards & upwards PUSB
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what? Like the current government?
 

Bruce the Boot

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  • Jul 16, 2016
  • #15
I thought Chickens lived in a "coup" ?
 

Captain Dart

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  • Jul 16, 2016
  • #16
SkyblueBazza said:
When shall we start?


Serious note: You appear to be applauding these action...but what if said revolutionaries turn out to be of ISIS persuasion?

...onwards & upwards PUSB
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You clearly don't know the history of Turkey, look up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustafa_Kemal_Atatürk

Parliament Speaker Ismail Kahraman unexpectedly sparked controversy in Turkey when on April 25 he declared that Turkey’s new constitution should forgo mention of “secularism” and instead be a “religious constitution” referencing God. His words reignited Turkey’s always tense “secularism debate,” which has been amplified since 2002 when the Justice and Development Party (AKP) came to power. Kahraman's remarks led to protests in a number of cities, a call by the main opposition leader for him to resign and allegations by secular pundits that the Speaker had shown the AKP’s “true face,” its “real intentions.” Because Kahraman is a known confidant of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, many also suspected that his statement was part of a scheme being orchestrated by Turkey's leader.
 
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SIR ERNIE

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  • Jul 16, 2016
  • #17
Increased unrest and instability in Turkey is dreadful news for Europe.
This coup may have been thwarted but there are genuine fears that any further escalation could ultimately lead to civil war.
The consequences of that would be catastrophic for Europe and amongst other things would dwarf the scale of the current migrant crisis.

Europe is not in a good place right now in so many respects and it is difficult to envisage anything other than a seriously worsening situation in the coming years.
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 16, 2016
  • #18
Bruce the Boot said:
I thought Chickens lived in a "coup" ?
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I drive a Coupe
Seriously though it appears to have been a tiny proportion of the military behind this
Far too small to contain the human backlash
Looks like their secular status is about to evaporate.
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Jul 16, 2016
  • #19
wingy said:
I drive a Coupe
Seriously though it appears to have been a tiny proportion of the military behind this
Far too small to contain the human backlash
Looks like their secular status is about to evaporate.
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A Turkish friend of a friend is upset this coup didn't take hold, he now believes the Turkish government will become even more oppressive.

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Captain Dart

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  • Jul 16, 2016
  • #20
Ohh.. err.
 

Otis

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  • Jul 16, 2016
  • #21
Has Donald Trump took over the hot seat already then?
 

Otis

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  • Jul 16, 2016
  • #22
Actually, thinking about it, Trump would announce it, carry the operation out, and then send the bill to Mexico.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Jul 16, 2016
  • #23
Captain Dart said:
You clearly don't know the history of Turkey, look up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustafa_Kemal_Atatürk

Parliament Speaker Ismail Kahraman unexpectedly sparked controversy in Turkey when on April 25 he declared that Turkey’s new constitution should forgo mention of “secularism” and instead be a “religious constitution” referencing God. His words reignited Turkey’s always tense “secularism debate,” which has been amplified since 2002 when the Justice and Development Party (AKP) came to power. Kahraman's remarks led to protests in a number of cities, a call by the main opposition leader for him to resign and allegations by secular pundits that the Speaker had shown the AKP’s “true face,” its “real intentions.” Because Kahraman is a known confidant of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, many also suspected that his statement was part of a scheme being orchestrated by Turkey's leader.
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I do know a little of its history. But even if I were an expert - I fail to see the relevance of Turkish history to my response

...onwards & upwards PUSB
 

footyfrenzy

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  • Jul 17, 2016
  • #24
it's BREXITS fault apparently http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/69...Chris-Bryant-Brexit-EU-referendum-campaign-MP
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 17, 2016
  • #25
Still some fighting going on.. the BBC won't report it.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Jul 17, 2016
  • #26
Captain Dart said:
Still some fighting going on.. the BBC won't report it.
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Of course they will. They are independent and unbiased.
I know his as a fact - because they told me!

...onwards & upwards PUSB
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Jul 18, 2016
  • #27
footyfrenzy said:
it's BREXITS fault apparently http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/69...Chris-Bryant-Brexit-EU-referendum-campaign-MP
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It's ok, the zip on my trousers broke and that was brexits fault also.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #28
This is some business going on in Turkey, purge of all institutions, mass arrests, clamping down on academics, travel bans etc...............this is all very similar to Germany around 1933 ?!
 

eastwoodsdustman

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  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #29
Ashdown said:
This is some business going on in Turkey, purge of all institutions, mass arrests, clamping down on academics, travel bans etc...............this is all very similar to Germany around 1933 ?!
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Its not looking good over there at the minute. I think there will be another uprising/coup or all out civil war before long. Turkey has always been a fairly liberal islamic country but the current leader is pushing a stricter islamic agenda.
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #30
Anyone would think Erdogan is trying to avoid joining the EU
What a strange Country.
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #31
Seems to have as many Police as Soldiers
From the Numbers rounded up you'd have expected more than 3K troops on the streets last Friday
 

Captain Dart

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  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #32


How many will Erdogan hang?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36843180
 

Captain Dart

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  • May 29, 2017
  • #33
Mask slipping off.

Here is the Ottoman Empire prior to WWI
 

dancers lance

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  • May 29, 2017
  • #34
What a shame, a proud country that was defined by It's secularity yet has still succumbed to pathetic, infantile dogma.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 30, 2017
  • #35
Another one of May's pals...doesn't look like they are about to join the EU either.
 
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