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chiefdave

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  • Jul 1, 2023
  • #246
Bazball RIP. This is a shambles

hoping for better this evening at Edgbaston
 

SkyBlueSoul

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  • Jul 1, 2023
  • #247
I’m not sure about that one, IMO he’s in control of that and has caught it before he grounds it.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jul 1, 2023
  • #248
SkyBlueSoul said:
I’m not sure about that one, IMO he’s in control of that and has caught it before he grounds it.
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He grassed it all day long if he hadn’t rubbed it along the floor it would have popped out. Stupid shot though
 
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Macca

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  • Jul 1, 2023
  • #249
Never at any point in my life would I call that a a valid catch
 
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Otis

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  • Jul 1, 2023
  • #250
Macca said:
It isn’t Bazball it’s the lack of intelligence to know when and when not to apply it
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Sounds very like VAR me thinks
 
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Otis

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  • Jul 1, 2023
  • #251
Definitely not a catch that.

He drags the ball on the floor, therefore using the ground as an aid in controlling the ball.

Clear cut to me.
 
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Macca

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  • Jul 1, 2023
  • #252
Sports rules just become over complicated. You take a catch, keep it off the ground for a few seconds then you can do what you want with it. Wasn’t the case there
 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #253
Fair shouts on the catch (or not). Wasn't a hill I was going to die on but as they were showing it I called it a catch and assumed it would be given out. Still feel he had a level of control but ultimately I'm wrong seeing as the umpires gave it not out.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #254
All this slating of ‘bazball’ is bizarre. As mentioned before, something like one win in 14 before Stokes/McCullum came in and 12 in 15 or 16 after, playing some exciting/fun cricket. We’ll probably lose this test and I’d imagine probably the ashes against a very good Australia team, with the top three batsmen in the world and a better attack.

All people have got to ask themselves is how many English lads would get in the Australia team (root, stokes and broad maybe…duckett at a massive push based on innings in this game) ? Even considering that they’ll probably only be two up because of our dropped catches, poor/unlucky spells of bowling when conditions were in our favour and a couple of individual horrific/brainless shots…not because of ‘bazball’

The same people in the media bitching about bazball probably complain about Southgate’s more cautious approach in football
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #255
Bugger
 

stupot07

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #256
CCFCSteve said:
All this slating of ‘bazball’ is bizarre. As mentioned before, something like one win in 14 before Stokes/McCullum came in and 12 in 15 or 16 after, playing some exciting/fun cricket. We’ll probably lose this test and I’d imagine probably the ashes against a very good Australia team, with the top three batsmen in the world and a better attack.

All people have got to ask themselves is how many English lads would get in the Australia team (root, stokes and broad maybe…duckett at a massive push based on innings in this game) ? Even considering that they’ll probably only be two up because of our dropped catches, poor/unlucky spells of bowling when conditions were in our favour and a couple of individual horrific/brainless shots…not because of ‘bazball’

The same people in the media bitching about bazball probably complain about Southgate’s more cautious approach in football
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It's not about being cautious, it's about balance and playing the conditions, we were 187/1 in the first innings should have been looking for 450+ score, and completely imploded unnecessarily playing ridiculous attacking shots that were never on. We were then still in a decent position before Stokes wicket at 278/4 then lost the last 5 wickets for 46 runs.

We had the Aussies on the ropes not sure how they were going to get wickets then we just girft wrapped them the other 9.

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Grendel

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #257
Stokes ironically plays a lot of innings in normal test mode
 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #258
Jesus Christ
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #259
Why do that? Why when you are going to win anyway?
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #260
Cheating cunts
 
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xcraigx

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #261
Not a good look for the Aussies, that.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #262
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Cheating cunts
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How is it cheating?
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #263
Grendel said:
How is it cheating?
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Just cunts then
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #264
xcraigx said:
Not a good look for the Aussies, that.
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Bit embarrassing really. Like sending Lyon out yesterday
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #265
Grendel said:
How is it cheating?
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Because it’s not done it’s a kids way of playing
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #266
CCFCSteve said:
Bit embarrassing really. Like sending Lyon out yesterday
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Bairstow didn’t ground his bat - schoolboy error - Carey threw it when he was still in his crease
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #267
SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
Just cunts then
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Yep
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #268
Sky Blue Pete said:
Because it’s not done it’s a kids way of playing
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Cheating is breaking rules - that’s not
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #269
Grendel said:
Cheating is breaking rules - that’s not
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Spirit of the game broken hope stokes wins it and rips off his top
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #270
Sky Blue Pete said:
Spirit of the game broken hope stokes wins it and rips off his top
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I think most of the professionals won’t agree - atherton said “dozy cricket” from Bairstow
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #271
Sky Blue Pete said:
Spirit of the game broken hope stokes wins it and rips off his top
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The spirit of the game is more aimed at the constant barrage at Broads head
 

chiefdave

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #272
CCFCSteve said:
Bit embarrassing really. Like sending Lyon out yesterday
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Lyon was interviewed this morning and said he insisted on going out to bat when everyone was advising him not to
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #273
stupot07 said:
stupot07 said:
It's not about being cautious, it's about balance and playing the conditions, we were 187/1 in the first innings should have been looking for 450+ score, and completely imploded unnecessarily playing ridiculous attacking shots that were never on. We were then still in a decent position before Stokes wicket at 278/4 then lost the last 5 wickets for 46 runs.

We had the Aussies on the ropes not sure how they were going to get wickets then we just girft wrapped them the other 9.

Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
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Agreed, we let them back in and I’ve said Root and Brooks batting was chaotic/brainless. My point is that’s nothing to do with Bazball, just poor play

Also agree that we were still in great position the next day when stokes was out, to a leading edge (not an aggressive shot) and Bairstow last remaining batsman to just a poor shot. Again, nothing to do with ‘bazball’
 

chiefdave

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #274
Grendel said:
Cheating is breaking rules - that’s not
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It's 100% out within the rules, there's no question of that whatsoever. And it's very poor from Bairstow to wander out of the crease like that

So its then down to the spirit of the game which is a pretty hard thing to define but ultimately its down to the Aussies, if they decide to appeal its going to be given out every time
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #275
someone is getting Mankaded next test
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #276
I've never seen Lords this angry or vocal.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #277
Will certainly make rest of the series a bit lively ! Only a few years after getting caught sandpapering the ball and then crying when they got caught. It’s just in them. They want to win at all costs
 
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xcraigx

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #278
Absolutely lit a spark under the crowd, and more ominously for Australia, Ben Stokes. We're not out of it yet.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #279
Even kicking off in the long room, never seen anything remotely like that
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 2, 2023
  • #280
Stokes "clapping" Cummins off there
 
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