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David O'Day

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  • Jul 24, 2023
  • #771
SkyBlueSoul said:
To add insult to injury, currently very sunny here. Would obviously have been a minimal crowd but a reserve day would have helped in this instance.

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It seems strange the can have reserve days for some tests but not others
 

Ian1779

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  • Jul 24, 2023
  • #772
I think it’s time to talk about Tests as a fixed number of overs (450/500) and plan reserve days. Only if you get to the end of the overs can you declare it a draw.
 
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ovduk78

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  • Jul 24, 2023
  • #773
Ian1779 said:
I think it’s time to talk about Tests as a fixed number of overs (450/500) and plan reserve days. Only if you get to the end of the overs can you declare it a draw.
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More needs to be done about over rate and ensuring 90 overs are bowled in a day. All countries are guilty of this.
Let's be honest, if the rain had saved England we wouldn't care about extra days, over rates etc.
 
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tisza

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  • Jul 24, 2023
  • #774
ovduk78 said:
More needs to be done about over rate and ensuring 90 overs are bowled in a day. All countries are guilty of this.
Let's be honest, if the rain had saved England we wouldn't care about extra days, over rates etc.
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Australia going in with 4 quick bowlers and no spinner - 0 chance of meeting the over rate.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 24, 2023
  • #775
David O'Day said:
It seems strange the can have reserve days for some tests but not others
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Doesn’t help trying to wedge in the ashes series by the end of July…but at least The Hundred can be squeezed in
 

ovduk78

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  • Jul 24, 2023
  • #776
tisza said:
Australia going in with 4 quick bowlers and no spinner - 0 chance of meeting the over rate.
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The ICC or whoever is in charge should make teams bowl 90 overs in a day no matter what bowling attack is picked. The over rate can also be slowed down by the batting team and has on many occasions. Extra time should also be allocated when there is a review.
 

Mcbean

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  • Jul 24, 2023
  • #777
well disappointed ! with the effing weather !
 

ccfc922

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  • Jul 24, 2023
  • #778
Grendel said:
You clearly dont know a lot about cricket
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You get a 1 or 2 hour window to play, then mess about, call lunch etc.

Yes, I don't know every intricate rule, but they've got plenty of time for rest/breaks in the time it's pissing down.

Just seems backwards for a game that relies on good weather to even take place.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 24, 2023
  • #779
ccfc922 said:
You get a 1 or 2 hour window to play, then mess about, call lunch etc.

Yes, I don't know every intricate rule, but they've got plenty of time for rest/breaks in the time it's pissing down.

Just seems backwards for a game that relies on good weather to even take place.
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so does tennis
 

ccfc922

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  • Jul 24, 2023
  • #780
Grendel said:
so does tennis
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So they built roofs on courts to allow play...

Obviously Cricket may not be physically possible to have a roof, but extra days if a day hasn't been played etc would make sense surely? Today at OT was sunshine by all accounts.

It's not traditional, but at least the game gets played how it's meant to be if you want to do 5 day tests in England.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 24, 2023
  • #781
ccfc922 said:
So they built roofs on courts to allow play...

Obviously Cricket may not be physically possible to have a roof, but extra days if a day hasn't been played etc would make sense surely? Today at OT was sunshine by all accounts.

It's not traditional, but at least the game gets played how it's meant to be if you want to do 5 day tests in England.
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no they built roofs on two courts on two stadiums

what if the game was heading for a bore draw - play the extra day then with no crowds?
 

ccfc922

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  • Jul 24, 2023
  • #782
Grendel said:
no they built roofs on two courts on two stadiums

what if the game was heading for a bore draw - play the extra day then with no crowds?
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I'm sure crowds would turn up to see a potential outcome, draw or win, than nearly 2 ultimately key days out of 5 stopped because of rain, resulting in a draw for the test not being played in full.
 

SkyBlueSoul

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  • Jul 24, 2023
  • #783
ccfc922 said:
So they built roofs on courts to allow play...

Obviously Cricket may not be physically possible to have a roof, but extra days if a day hasn't been played etc would make sense surely? Today at OT was sunshine by all accounts.

It's not traditional, but at least the game gets played how it's meant to be if you want to do 5 day tests in England.
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A big reason is scheduling, trying to fit all levels and formats in. The Hundred starts next week so they've crammed this series in, and playing today wouldn't give them enough rest before the next test on Wednesday. Plus Lancashire have a 4 day county game starting at OT tomorrow so they'll have needed to work on the pitch.

I agree with the overall point though, if you make reserve days the norm then they will be factored into the scheduling.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 24, 2023
  • #784
ccfc922 said:
I'm sure crowds would turn up to see a potential outcome, draw or win, than nearly 2 ultimately key days out of 5 stopped because of rain, resulting in a draw for the test not being played in full.
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if it was an obvious draw they’d have to let people in for free
 

LastGarrison

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #785
Got away with a couple already this morning but a solid start otherwise.
 

LastGarrison

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #786
Well that didn't age well.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #787
Collapse on here ! A lot more movement off the pitch and in the air today. Need tail to dig us out of a bit of a hole here
 
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SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #788
Grendel said:
no they built roofs on two courts on two stadiums

what if the game was heading for a bore draw - play the extra day then with no crowds?
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Before they had roofs I've never seen them say, you know what it's raining Saturday and Sunday so we're not gonna bother finishing the match. Wimbledon has been extended into a third week plenty of times before due to Weather
 

SkyBlueSoul

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #789
Brilliant catch by Root! Thought it was past him.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #790
SkyBlueSoul said:
Brilliant catch by Root! Thought it was past him.
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Amazing ! Needed and deserved it, bowled well this morning
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #791
Are Australia playing for a draw already?
 

SkyBlueSoul

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #792
Not if Broad can help it
 

LastGarrison

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #793
SkyBlueSoul said:
Not if Broad can help it
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Or Anderson
 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #794
Good session so far, momentum just swinging our way atm
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #795
I always enjoy Marsh getting out
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #796
3rd umpire then didn't have clue
 
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tisza

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #797
thought they bowled well earlier for no reward but persevered and reaped the benefits
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #798
tisza said:
thought they bowled well earlier for no reward but persevered and reaped the benefits
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Yeah stuck at it and got their rewards in afternoon session. Very good control, they’ve only got 120 over two sessions…new ball in five overs. Let’s hope we can make this count
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #799
People who get arsey about "bazball" need to remember that was what England used to play like, block, block, block and then find yourself in a hole.
 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #800
Only just seen Broad changing the bails round before Labuschagne nicks off I wondered what he was chuntering about as he walked off
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #801
SkyBlueSoul said:
Only just seen Broad changing the bails round before Labuschagne nicks off I wondered what he was chuntering about as he walked off
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It’s about time somebody got into his head, they should be doing the same to Smith I would like to see them get the umpire further back and bowl at all sorts of distances
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #802
Bairstow at fault there very clumsy
 

stupot07

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #803
Should have been out. Difficult but wrong call by the off field umpire.

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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #804
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Bairstow at fault there very clumsy
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Maybe a bit harsh on Bairstow. He’s trying to get as close to the ball coming in to minimise movement to get bails off. If he’d held gloves back the movement to get bails off mightve given smith enough time to get bat in anyway. Annoying though and will no doubt be costly

Ps Great dive !
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #805
 
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