Yes and we should have given Ireland back to the Irish too.
Banned wasn't it? Or certainly not played.
Much like Careys actions it wasn't against the law but folk thought it shouldn't of happenedBanned wasn't it? Or certainly not played.
It's a fair point. It was a lot to do with the balance of the game at the time wasn't it.Context has to play apart in this. if england were 89 for 9 or 368 for 6 not sure there's so much uproar.
I don't think it does, not many think we had a chance when it happened and if anything we likely got closer than we would of powered by the anger it causedIt's a fair point. It was a lot to do with the balance of the game at the time wasn't it.
It was Stokes’ with his bat when he was making a run and the throw hit it and went for a four in the World Cup final. A total freak accident not premeditated. Not sure many walk these days unless it’s an obvious edge
I agree that over the five days Aussies deserved to win that test, although I thought we deserved to win at edgbaston. JB needs to step up as 25+ byes in this test, drops in last test and not many runs in this has put him under pressure. I’d have been tempted to rest Pope if shoulders fucked, keep Bairstow as batsman and bring in Foakes
Yeah , I'm the same and I've mankaded a batsman! I gave him a warning though and when I ran him out he was literally 3 metres down the pitch.Have to add, I am always for fair play. Whichever team, theirs or ours. I don't even like the City shithousing to win a game.
I guess I am just old school like that.
You see it with accused in the dock at the Old Bailey all the time.Yeah , I'm the same and I've mankaded a batsman! I gave him a warning though and when I ran him out he was literally 3 metres down the pitch.
Bairstow was obviously out in the laws of the game but the subjective spirit of the game comes into play which is slowly but surely dieing out.
Ive yet to see a comparative argument that makes sense, Starcs supposed catch the day before, Bairstow doing it to Labaschange, Pope running out de Grondhomme last year, Broad edging to first slip and not walking. Seen all those mentioned in places but all different arguments and irrelevant to me.
For me , Carey should have passed Bairstow and warned him - "Jonny, stay in your f***ing crease mate". Does it again and he's fair game. Obvious that Bairstow thought it was over. Ball in keepers hands, umpires giving caps back, scratch of the foot at the crease.
But Im old school and people draw the spirit of the game line in different places.
Aussies didn't help themselves in the Long Room by walking through laughing and smirking.
It's just caused a lot of bad blood now.
Regarding spirit of the game I remember one game in the one day knockout tournament where 3 teams were fighting for two places
Somerset were at home. Peter Roebuck - a very strange man all round - had worked out that the rules didn’t say you can’t declare and he calculated if Somerset batted and declared after one over it was impossible for the opposition to beat them on run rate
So Somerset batted and they did it. They declared after 6 balls and the game was over in 10 minutes. Crowd had to be refunded
As I say strange guy Peter Roebuck
The Roebuck tragedy: a tale of love, beatings and blackmail
The 'sons' of the late cricket identity claim he had a dark side, writes Adam Shand in South Africa.amp.smh.com.au
Agree that Peter Roebuck was a very strange chap (not least sacking Viv!), but it was Brian Rose who triggered the Somerset declaration -
I do declare
Few incidents have been as cynical as Somerset's declaration after one over of their Benson & Hedges Cup one-dayer against Worcestershirewww.espncricinfo.com
Botham outed Roebuck as the "mastermind" as well in one of his biographies.Briam rose was the captain and took all the flak as he should I guess but in his biography Roebuck admitted it was he whose cunning plan it was and pushed for it to happen
This the chance to get Foakes back in the team?
To be fair to Crawley I think he’s not been that bad this seriesDuckett
walking wicket Crawley
Lawrence
Root
Stokes
Brook
Bairstow
Ali
Broad
Wood
Robinson
To be fair to Crawley I think he’s not been that bad this series
That's how they want him to play thoughHe doesn’t go on and make really big scores looks great for half an hour and then gone.
I’m not a fan of Crawley but I think he’s been unlucky with this wickets - he’s been out to good ballsHe doesn’t go on and make really big scores looks great for half an hour and then gone.
That's how they want him to play though
That is just the annouced line upand can change on the day, it makes more sense to just bump everyone up a notch and root bat at 3Not sure about Brook at 3 with his short ball playing but still better than Lawrence. Bairstow at 6 makes more sense but longish tail if they are going to keep up the aggressive lower order batting.
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