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  • Thread starter I_Saw_Shaw_Score
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Otis

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #561
Bloody hell! Wicket down already. Only 7 balls in.
 

I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #562
Ali gone, I have the feeling this will be over in the next hour!
 

Otis

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #563
Another one down. Ali out for 11, still trailing by 86 runs. Just 4 wickets left.

Can't see us lasting much longer.
 

Otis

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #564
9 down now. 48 behind.

All hopes now pinned on a James Anderson century.

Come on Jimmy, you can do it!!!
 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #565
Just woke up again to hear Overton and Broad go, wish I hadn’t fallen asleep to TMS!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #566
And that's a wrap!

It's gonna be a whitewash!
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #567
How long has it been now since Cook was a truely solid opener?
Feels like around five or more years to me.
Then you have to question whether Root is Captain material or that his form is destroyed by that responsibility.
 
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I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #568
Cook i'd hate for him to be finished now always thought he'd go on to 36/37 and go out on his own terms, i's stick with personally.

Root was never ready for the captaincy more a case of who else, the answer was nobody.

Broad for me is the one out the old guard that id be tempted to move on.l, invest in a couple of youngsters to play alongside Jimmy.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #569
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
Cook is hate for him to be finished now always thought he'd go on to 36/37 and go out on his own terms, if stick with personally.

Root was never ready for the captaincy more a case of who else, the answer was nobody.

Broad for me is the one out the old guard that id be tempted to move on.l, invest in a couple of youngsters to play alongside Jimmy.
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But I don't quite understand the loyalty to Cook who was undoubtedly brilliant in the past yet Seems to have underperformed for eons now apart from one series.
I'd like to see more emphasis on the sport phsychology side, as both those captains have the technique, what's going on between the ears that Seems to debilitate them.
 

Mcbean

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #570
wingy said:
But I don't quite understand the loyalty to Cook who was undoubtedly brilliant in the past yet Seems to have underperformed for eons now apart from one series.
I'd like to see more emphasis on the sport phsychology side, as both those captains have the technique, what's going on between the ears that Seems to debilitate them.
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Well it did'nt stop Smith getting runs - intensive care required - listened to the lot this morning - kicked the wife on the first ball to Bairstow
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #571
One aspect in this form of the game surely must relate to the amount of time away from home.
On tour for months on end.
Fine for single young lads, not so, or maybe not,for married with families.
 

Otis

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #572
wingy said:
One aspect in this form of the game surely must relate to the amount of time away from home.
On tour for months on end.
Fine for single young lads, not so, or maybe not,for married with families.
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Married with families should be the ones who should jump at the chance.

It's called respite.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #573
Mcbean said:
Well it did'nt stop Smith getting runs - intensive care required - listened to the lot this morning - kicked the wife on the first ball to Bairstow
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Yeah sorry Wasn't clear there
Meant Cook and Root.
Found Roots post match, assessment of the 3 matches a bit strange.
Almost like he's in denial.
 

Otis

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #574
wingy said:
Yeah sorry Wasn't clear there
Meant Cook and Root.
Found Roots post match, assessment of the 3 matches a bit strange.
Almost like he's in denial.
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No, more likely to be the Swan. Denial is in Egypt.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #575
Otis said:
No, more like to be the Swan. Denial is in Egypt.
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I'll line them up
You put em away Otis.
 
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Covstu

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #576
Appalling display again, we can’t bat or bowl at present. Our bowling attack is 10 mph slower than it should, they are not aggressive enough with way too many short balls. Batting is extremely poor, cook not at the races and hasn’t been for along time, no real other opener either. We have an awful tail end and a very intermittent mid order than could be brilliant. Root looks like he has the weight of the world on his shoulders and not taking captaincy well.
 

Mcbean

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #577
wingy said:
I'll line them up
You put em away Otis.
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Surely its the Murray darling !
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #578
I'm not a massive follower or fan as such but obviously would love for them to be doing better.
What is the quality of the heirarchy and backroom like currently, compared to halcyon years?
 

I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #579
I'd be half tempted to take Cook, Ali & Broad out the firing line, get them home and away from Cricket for a bit (bring Ali back out for Odis) bring some of the Lions players/rest of squad players for the last 2 Tests have a bit of pressure off free reign to get some sort of positives out of the series.

The fear/confidence factor is well and truly set In a few of these Players.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #580
Mcbean said:
Surely its the Murray darling !
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Haha
Geography lesson taken
Also known as the Tongala.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #581
Same old story with England, no bottle whatsoever. 'Oh they seem to be good, time to roll over'.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #582
Tell you what I found astounding, the level of protection of the wicket from rain.
Below English county level and unacceptable really, I guess they don't get much in Perth but Strewth.
 

Gazolba

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #583
It's time we all realised that Australia are just much better than us at cricket.
We are much better than them at football, but in football, they are catching up.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #584
Gazolba said:
It's time we all realised that Australia are just much better than us at cricket.
We are much better than them at football, but in football, they are catching up.
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It would be far closer in the uk - I fact I think we’d probably win in the uk - their batting is not great and many struggle in the uk including Smith.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #585
Grendel said:
It would be far closer in the uk - I fact I think we’d probably win in the uk - their batting is not great and many struggle in the uk including Smith.
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If we win here, it tends to be close. If they win there, it's normally a whitewash. There is a worrying lack of resilience when we travel.
 
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Gazolba

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #586
My quick fix:
Openers Stoneman and Vince, Cook drops to three, Malan four, Root five.
Drop Moeen and Broad.
Bring in Wood and Stokes.
 

Gazolba

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #587
Grendel said:
It would be far closer in the uk - I fact I think we’d probably win in the uk - their batting is not great and many struggle in the uk including Smith.
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Their batting not great?
Smith got 239 and Marsh 181. Out two top rated batsmen (Cook and Root) got, 7, 20, 14 and 14.
Although I must admit, the quality (or lack of) of the bowling had as much to do with those figures at the quality of the batting.
 

I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #588
Gazolba said:
My quick fix:
Openers Stoneman and Vince, Cook drops to three, Malan four, Root five.
Drop Moeen and Broad.
Bring in Wood and Stokes.
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Overton will be out the series, id give Curran and Wood a go with the ball.
Maybe Crane for Ali (makes the batting weak though but it's hardly performing)

I'd give Foakes a go and the gloves.

Maybe- Cook,Stoneman,Root, Malan, Bairstow, Foakes,Woakes,Curran,Wood,Anderson & Crane

Just looks too light on the batting front. Shows how big a loss Stokes is for that balance too the side.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #589
Gazolba said:
Their batting not great?
Smith got 239 and Marsh 181. Out two top rated batsmen (Cook and Root) got, 7, 20, 14 and 14.
Although I must admit, the quality (or lack of) of the bowling had as much to do with those figures at the quality of the batting.
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I said in England. Smith had one big century at lords. At three of the test grounds he averaged 20 or less.

You do realise playing in England is a world away from a hard flat track at Perth right?
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #590
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
Overton will be out the series, id give Curran and Wood a go with the ball.
Maybe Crane for Ali (makes the batting weak though but it's hardly performing)

I'd give Foakes a go and the gloves.

Maybe- Cook,Stoneman,Root, Malan, Bairstow, Foakes,Woakes,Curran,Wood,Anderson & Crane

Just looks too light on the batting front. Shows how big a loss Stokes is for that balance too the side.
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No Vince?
I admit I only saw his 55.
But that was absolute stoic resistence, he was just on the edge of giving them a smacked arse bar the freak ending.
 

I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #591
wingy said:
No Vince?
I admit I only saw his 55.
But that was absolute stoic resistence, he was just on the edge of giving them a smacked arse bar the freak ending.
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I'm not sold on him personally.

I am really interested in how Joe Clarke from Worcester does in div 1 next year I think he might have a test cap before 2018 is out.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Dec 18, 2017
  • #592
Well that wasn't a surprise but to not put up a fight when there was the possibility of a good chunk of the day being lost to rain was poor.

Interesting point on the radio that the number of visiting sides winning series is getting lower as pitch technology allows the home groundsman to prepare pitches for the home side to a greater degree.

Does the ICC need to step in and have independent groundsman overseeing test pitches?
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #593
A road produced so would expect the Aussie to rack up hundreds, having to watch the fat arsehole warner bat so going to bed
 

chiefdave

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #594
Terry Gibson's perm said:
A road produced so would expect the Aussie to rack up hundreds, having to watch the fat arsehole warner bat so going to bed
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And then it will somehow suddenly become unplayable when we bat on it!
 
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Otis

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  • Dec 26, 2017
  • #595
We still have a great chance. Aussies only 102-0 at lunch and with Warner only making 83 from 94 balls, we should surely be able to get the plodding tortoise out soon.

All bodes well.
 
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