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Ashbyjan or anyone from the Sky Blue Trust.... (11 Viewers)

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  • Start date Apr 6, 2013
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coundonskyblue

New Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #36
Perryccfc said:
Jesus that caused a stir. That statement genuinely wasn't meant to be offensive. I'm allowed an opinion on the trust and it is of my opinion that I think they believe they are "elite" in comparison to the average sky blue fan. All this jibber jabber about this meeting yesterday makes me cringe. I don't think they give a shit what the average Cov fan thinks, they have meetings, discuss politics, what THEY want, then release a statement. All seems a little show business to me. I'm not knocking what they do, each to their own and all that. Just MY opinion. Cue the outrage.
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Why don't you join the trust then and change it rather than just knocking it?
 
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Steve.B50

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #37
Perryccfc
Yes your allowed to have an opinion, but you should get the facts first before you make such statements.
People like you have no idea, they just knock others for the sake of being different. You know nothing?
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #38
Perryccfc said:
I'm allowed an opinion on the trust and it is of my opinion that I think they believe they are "elite" in comparison to the average sky blue fan. All this jibber jabber about this meeting yesterday makes me cringe. I don't think they give a shit what the average Cov fan thinks, they have meetings, discuss politics, what THEY want, then release a statement.
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Could you explain what you consider "the average sky blue fan" to be please and what it is that "the average Cov fan" thinks (I assume you must know this as you claim to know that it is being ignored).
 

Perryccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #39
Steve.B50 said:
Perryccfc
Yes your allowed to have an opinion, but you should get the facts first before you make such statements.
People like you have no idea, they just knock others for the sake of being different. You know nothing?
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I would like the facts first, but I'd imagine I'll have to wait for a statement on the sbt website. You can all cry and get defensive all you like I'm not really fussed. I'm stating an opinion and by challenging my opinion you are just reaffirming it.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #40
Perryccfc said:
I'm stating an opinion and by challenging my opinion you are just reaffirming it.
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So, if you say that in your opinion the sea is made of custard and I reply that I think you're wrong - that reaffirms your opinion that it is in fact made of custard?
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #41
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
So, if you say that in your opinion the sea is made of custard and I reply that I think you're wrong - that reaffirms your opinion that it is in fact made of custard?
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I think perry was just remarking on how cringy the SBT were on late kick off.
 

Black6Osprey

New Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #42
Colonel Mustard said:
So what is Mr Haskell's "sound and realistic plan"?
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The silence is deafening on that one. I assume this is what's meant by transparent communication. He tells a couple of the SBT and then they keep it to themselves. Need to know basis and all that.
 

Perryccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #43
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
So, if you say that in your opinion the sea is made of custard and I reply that I think you're wrong - that reaffirms your opinion that it is in fact made of custard?
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What an absolutely pathetic comparison!
 
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shropshirecov

New Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #44
Two rules in here perry:

Firstly the trust are beyond reproach.

Secondly the stadium should never be in private hands, power to the people comrade and all that.
 
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MichaelCCFC

New Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #45
Perryccfc said:
No offence, but I cringe at the image of PH4 meeting you people.
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I'm always happy to get feedback eg comments on here after i was interviewed by SL after walsall game made me appreciate i didnt handle finance question very well. So if could say something more specific about why it would make you cringe that would be helpful.

Mustard and osprey - as i said earlier in this thread i wasnt at the meeting so will have to leave it for jan to answer your question.
 

coundonskyblue

New Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #46
covcity4life said:
I think perry was just remarking on how cringy the SBT were on late kick off.
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When they said something you disagreed with?
 
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MichaelCCFC

New Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #47
shropshirecov said:
Two rules in here perry:

Firstly the trust are beyond reproach.

Secondly the stadium should never be in private hands, power to the people comrade and all that.
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i love rule 1 - just a shame it isn't true cos i've had more abuse on here than in my entire life!

Dont think i understand rule 2??
 

coundonskyblue

New Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #48
shropshirecov said:
Two rules in here perry:

Firstly the trust are beyond reproach.

Secondly the stadium should never be in private hands, power to the people comrade and all that.
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Whats the obsession with stadium ownership?

As long as the club receives income streams I wouldn't care if it was owned by John Mutton's Auntie Ethal.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #49
coundonskyblue said:
Whats the obsession with stadium ownership?

As long as the club receives income streams I wouldn't care if it was owned by John Mutton's Auntie Ethal.
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From pretty much all of your posts you don't care who owns it as long as the football club don't.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #50
MichaelCCFC said:
i love rule 1 - just a shame it isn't true cos i've had more abuse on here than in my entire life!

Dont think i understand rule 2??
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He means that the council will refuse anyone the ability to own the ground or gain maximum revenue from it - a view that worryingly many of our fans support.
 
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MichaelCCFC

New Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #51
Grendel said:
He means that the council will refuse anyone the ability to own the ground or gain maximum revenue from it - a view that worryingly many of our fans support.[/
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Cheers, Grendel. I may be entirely wrong but seems there will be a few sideshows but main feature remains the Administrator's report to creditors which isn't till next month. It's gonna be a long wait...
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GaryPendrysEyes

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #52
Grovel. Give it a rest - the issue is no one besides a few apologists want Sisu to own the ground....

GMK has more info from AshbyJan on the 'meeting'

http://www.gmkonline.com/?page=forum&forum_id=6&thread_id=32556
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #53
Perryccfc said:
What an absolutely pathetic comparison!
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My apologies - I was trying to pitch something at the intellectual level displayed in your posts
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #54
GaryPendrysEyes said:
Grovel. Give it a rest - the issue is no one besides a few apologists want Sisu to own the ground....

GMK has more info from AshbyJan on the 'meeting'

http://www.gmkonline.com/?page=forum&forum_id=6&thread_id=32556
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Did I mention sisu? Don't think so. Considering you have a distinction I would have thought you could read.

My point is a generic one.

Enjoy the game yesterday?
 
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MichaelCCFC

New Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #55
Seems to be a set pattern on here - someone has a pop e.g. today it's that I believe I'm "elite" in comparison to the average sky blue fan, don't give a shit what the average Cov fan thinks etc etc. I post a reasoned reply and anonymous critic disappears. What's that all about then?
 

Perryccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #56
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
My apologies - I was trying to pitch something at the intellectual level displayed in your posts
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So through my posts I show a lack of intelligence?! Not a good judge of character my friend!
 
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MichaelCCFC

New Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #57
More to the point, Perry, I'd be very grateful for a reply to my point [in case you missed it, it was: I'm always happy to get feedback eg comments on here after i was interviewed by SL after walsall game made me appreciate i didnt handle finance question very well. So if could say something more specific about why it would make you cringe that would be helpful.]
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #58
Perryccfc said:
So through my posts I show a lack of intelligence?! Not a good judge of character my friend!
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I was judging intelligence rather than character

I'm sure that you've made many excellent posts previously, but your rather petty attack on SBT today was not supported by any reasoned argument, despite requests from other posters.

If you want to "have a pop", that's fair enough - but please then be prepared to support your assertions.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #59
Grendel said:
He means that the council will refuse anyone the ability to own the ground or gain maximum revenue from it - a view that worryingly many of our fans support.
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Really? I don't recall anybody saying that on here? You been taking the yellow pills instead of the blue ones again?
 

coundonskyblue

New Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #60
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Grendel said:
From pretty much all of your posts you don't care who owns it as long as the football club don't.
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Of course, in fact you know all of my opinions based on a few forum posts.

Whilst I would like the club to own the ground, as long as it gets the income streams it makes no practical difference.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #61
coundonskyblue said:
When they said something you disagreed with?
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No I agreed with most points

Just don't think they represent all Cov fans

U can be sure that if 100 pro sisu members joined them not 1 of them would be chosen by Jan for TV spots etc.
 

Delboycov

Active Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #62
covcity4life said:
No I agreed with most points

Just don't think they represent all Cov fans

U can be sure that if 100 pro sisu members joined them not 1 of them would be chosen by Jan for TV spots etc.
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100 pro SISU members? Never met one myself and considering practically every single person on here and other message boards accused of being pro SISU denies it, I doubt if that will ever happen!
 
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MichaelCCFC

New Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #63
covcity4life said:
No I agreed with most points


I think these should now become stickys because I've posted these points so many times....

Just don't think they represent all Cov fans The Trust doesn't represent all fans - it represents the views of it members

U can be sure that if 100 pro sisu members joined them not 1 of them would be chosen by Jan for TV spots etc.
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The Trust is a 100% democratic organisation. Any member can put forward a proposal and then people vote on it. Jan is one of 12 Board Members (10 elected, 2 co-opted to fill skills gaps) - the idea he decides who does what will certainly be giving several people a good laugh
 
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Tonylinc

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #64
Why are we knocking the SBT? Are they not just trying to make a difference or am I missing something here?
 
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Colin1883

Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #65
MichaelCCFC said:
The Trust is a 100% democratic organisation. Any member can put forward a proposal and then people vote on it. Jan is one of 12 Board Members (10 elected, 2 co-opted to fill skills gaps) - the idea he decides who does what will certainly be giving several people a good laugh
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What do the trust want to do with the seat on the board?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #66
Will the board members bare knuckle fight for the seat on the ccfc board?
 
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MichaelCCFC

New Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #67
covcity4life said:
No I agreed with most points

Just don't think they represent all Cov fans

U can be sure that if 100 pro sisu members joined them not 1 of them would be chosen by Jan for TV spots etc.
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I think these should be stickys becuase I've posted these points so many times before...

"Just don't think they represent all Cov fans" The Trust doesn't represent all fans - it represents the views of it members

"U can be sure that if 100 pro sisu members joined them not 1 of them would be chosen by Jan for TV spots etc" The Trust is a 100% democratic organisation. Any member can put forward a proposal which then gets voted on. Jan is one of 12 trust Board members (10 elected, 2 co-opted to bring in specific expertise) - the idea he tells everyone else what to do will be giving a few people a good laugh
 

deanocity3

New Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #68
Nick said:
Will the board members bare knuckle fight for the seat on the ccfc board?
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and will they be a true representive of what we supporters want.
can we vote for who we want on the board from the trust
 
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Steve.B50

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #69
deanocity3 said:
and will they be a true representive of what we supporters want.
can we vote for who we want on the board from the trust
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Confirmed, I for one do not believe I am the right person to sit on any board and report back to members.
 

Delboycov

Active Member
  • Apr 7, 2013
  • #70
Steve.B50 said:
Confirmed, I for one do not believe I am the right person to sit on any board and report back to members.
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Don't blame you Steve...can you imagine the grief you'd get?! It would be a thankless task I'm sure.
 
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