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Are we going to stay up? (4 Viewers)

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  • Start date Mar 29, 2012
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Grendel

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  • Mar 30, 2012
  • #36
Pompey have been docked 10 points and can only bring loans in if other players are shipped out. Frankly if we still can't finish above them we don't deserve to stay up.
We are hardly in a position to take the moral high ground anyway after a couple of our escapes in the past.
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

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  • Mar 30, 2012
  • #37
kduffy said:
Pompey have been docked 10 points and can only bring loans in if other players are shipped out. Frankly if we still can't finish above them we don't deserve to stay up.
We are hardly in a position to take the moral high ground anyway after a couple of our escapes in the past.
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They have entered administration three times in less than a decade. Of course we have a right to sit on the higher moral ground compared to them. Even by your standards - a silly comment :facepalm:
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 30, 2012
  • #38
The problem with predictions like these is that they're made on the assumption that all of the results predicted are correct, or at least to a good level of accuracy. As such, assuming, say, that Pompey will get 46 points based on predicted results is misleading given that not every football match follows the expected outcome.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 30, 2012
  • #39
kduffy said:
Pompey have been docked 10 points and can only bring loans in if other players are shipped out. Frankly if we still can't finish above them we don't deserve to stay up.
We are hardly in a position to take the moral high ground anyway after a couple of our escapes in the past.
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They can bring in loans, Duffy, by virtue of refusing to field any of their youngsters-if they'd followed what we had done this season, they'd be completely up the creek without a paddle as their kids would be included in the FL's reckoning.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 30, 2012
  • #40
Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
They have entered administration three times in less than a decade. Of course we have a right to sit on the higher moral ground compared to them. Even by your standards - a silly comment :facepalm:
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So rules exist that state you can't do that? I am sure that the rest of the football world will have huge symapthy with us if we go and they don't. Moral high ground refers to specific instances in our own inglorious past which you have as usual ignored.
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2012
  • #41
Yes - a Football League ruling exists that says that if you do that, you get deducted 10 points. That's a rule. Being broken. Three times. What's hard to comprehend?

Maybe you'd like to draw a parallel that shows how we've transgressed rules and been punished in a similar way? I'm sure I'll wait a while though....

Pompey have a squad that still includes Mokena, Ben Haim, Etuhu, Benjani, Kanu and Kitson; and which until this month included Liam Lawrence and Hayden Mullins.

One of the players they still have on their books would be commanding the wages of 7 of our first-teamers.

Even after a 10 point deduction, they should be some way clear of our squad – that’s funded within the bottom three in the league - and to state anything to the contrary, the work of a mind that surely errant and operating under the influence of strong lager, direct sunlight or illicit substances.

Still; with your daft comments and your pigletty innocence, you've quite made my Friday. Thanks!
 

kg82

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  • Mar 30, 2012
  • #42
kduffy said:
So rules exist that state you can't do that? I am sure that the rest of the football world will have huge symapthy with us if we go and they don't. Moral high ground refers to specific instances in our own inglorious past which you have as usual ignored.
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Moral high ground implies we also cheated the system, which I'm pretty sure we haven't (if 1977 is referred to again it's ridiculous).
 

Otis

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  • Mar 30, 2012
  • #43
What happend in 1977? :thinking about::thinking about:
 

kg82

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  • Mar 30, 2012
  • #44
Otis said:
What happend in 1977? :thinking about::thinking about:
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I don't know... it was 35 years ago and I wasn't born till 1982!
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2012
  • #45
Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
Yes - a Football League ruling exists that says that if you do that, you get deducted 10 points. That's a rule. Being broken. Three times. What's hard to comprehend?

Maybe you'd like to draw a parallel that shows how we've transgressed rules and been punished in a similar way? I'm sure I'll wait a while though....

Pompey have a squad that still includes Mokena, Ben Haim, Etuhu, Benjani, Kanu and Kitson; and which until this month included Liam Lawrence and Hayden Mullins.

One of the players they still have on their books would be commanding the wages of 7 of our first-teamers.

Even after a 10 point deduction, they should be some way clear of our squad – that’s funded within the bottom three in the league - and to state anything to the contrary, the work of a mind that surely errant and operating under the influence of strong lager, direct sunlight or illicit substances.

Still; with your daft comments and your pigletty innocence, you've quite made my Friday. Thanks!
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What is hard to comprehend (for you) is the rules allow a ten point reduction. You may disagree with the ruling but that is what it is. They transgressed and they have been duly punished under the rules. How is that immoral?

Have we transgressed the rules? Well no but hence my moral comment. We won 3 games in a row one season when all other teams had finished including thumping the league champions when they were clearly not very interested in being there. Norwich were furious. Middlesbrough were docked points which subsequently saved us in 1997. I remember listening to a sports phone in at the time on a national radio station when the subject was "How do we Get Coventry City Relegated". We weren't too popular.

The 1977 incident was another one much discussed but was high farce and highly dubious.

As for daft comments why mention one of their players wages. There must be at least 10 clubs your comment applies to.

Try and get some sympathy from other fans around the country - you will find it lacking.

We need to stand on our own and accumulate enough points without finding excuses and looking at other teams.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2012
  • #46
This going way off the subject. Would anyone mind if we stick to " do you think my predictions for them are realistic" because they are really starting to worry me. I have cov down to do really well and still go down
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2012
  • #47
Of course it's immoral to enter administration three times in tem years!! To fail to pay your creditors due to financial mismanagement three times, and to attract and keep a calibre of player you can't sustain, and gain a better league position from so doing is so immoral it's untrue. And the casualties of this car crash - the unpaid creditors - are low paid club workers and local businesses. Meanwhile, players are still picking up £30K weekly wages and being so pious in so doing it's untrue. In fact, do you have any idea as to what immoral means??

To draw any parallel between this, and anything we may have done previously - however tenuous - is frankly speaking astonishing. You're either playing disingenuous, or you're delusional.

And yes, my comments relating to players earning what they do at Pompey could apply to other clubs - but do you know the difference? They're not in administration.
 
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BackRoomRummermill

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  • Mar 30, 2012
  • #48
We could stay up but then again so could anyone in the bottom 4

In 4 games time we could be mathematically up or down. It is very tight.

Can we do it ................ IMO No and we are down I am afraid
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2012
  • #49
Staying up? Absofuckinglutely.
 
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CCFC123

New Member
  • Mar 30, 2012
  • #50
Astute said:
And how many of the last 5 games did you expect us to lose in this damned right average run?
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As your've asked I expected them to have beaten Palace at home. To even believe that 4 draws is a good run is crackers. To many people with sky blue tinted glasses on here. It's not a good run it average at best.

We dont win away we go down....utter disgrace and those poor sods that go to every away game.... i feel for you I really do..
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2012
  • #51
BackRoomRummermill said:
We could stay up but then again so could anyone in the bottom 4

In 4 games time we could be mathematically up or down. It is very tight.

Can we do it ................ IMO No and we are down I am afraid
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Let's see where we are after tomorrow. Maybe the picture might be just a little clearer.
 

Johnnythespider

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2012
  • #52
If you put a bet on all your'e predictions and they were all correct you would be a very rich man, therefore the odds suggest they are unrealistic, so stop worrying
dongonzalos said:
This going way off the subject. Would anyone mind if we stick to " do you think my predictions for them are realistic" because they are really starting to worry me. I have cov down to do really well and still go down
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SkyBlueArmy

New Member
  • Mar 30, 2012
  • #53
My optimism taken by reading most of these comments. Obviously we won't win six out of seven games. ffs we haven't won away all season! But I think the Pompey game lifted there spirits gave them abit of confidence. PUSB! And we may have had 'average' form but it's better than all the teams around us.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 30, 2012
  • #54
SkyBlueArmy said:
My optimism taken by reading most of these comments. Obviously we won't win six out of seven games. ffs we haven't won away all season! But I think the Pompey game lifted there spirits gave them abit of confidence. PUSB! And we may have had 'average' form but it's better than all the teams around us.
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But I hear we will go down if we don't win away. Must have missed that new rule.

How many teams at the bottom would like to be unbeaten in the last 5 games? How many teams near the top, including our next opponents Hull, would like the same? When was the last time we went 5 games unbeaten? Ignore what you read. Ignore what results people think will happen from now til the end of the season. Some people take their own opinion too seriously. They keep their gobs shut when wrong, but when right for once "I told you so"

Try to enjoy the rest of the season. Relax. We are the Houdini pf football
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2012
  • #55
Astute said:
How many teams at the bottom would like to be unbeaten in the last 5 games?
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Doncaster were unbeaten in 5 from 25th Feb to 13th March.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2012
  • #56
Will someone look at my predictions for Swompey and point out where exactly it is that I am completely unrealistic, because unfortunatley I cant see. I am predicting these results and I hate them.
So trust me I would not predict them in a favourable light.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2012
  • #57
kduffy said:
Doncaster were unbeaten in 5 from 25th Feb to 13th March.
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I know you are not the sharpest about, so I will try again ;-)

There are plenty of teams that would like to be on a 5 game unbeaten run with 7 games to go. Donny would love to have 7 games to go
 
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skybluesteve76

New Member
  • Mar 31, 2012
  • #58
covcity4life said:
we play bristol steve
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Oh yeah! Sorry
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2012
  • #59
backroomrummermill said:
we could stay up but then again so could anyone in the bottom 4

in 4 games time we could be mathematically up or down. It is very tight.

Can we do it ................ Imo no and we are down i am afraid
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ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
 

Disorganised1

New Member
  • Mar 31, 2012
  • #60
Otis said:
:thinking about::thinking about:No shit Sherlock!!


If we get 18 points I will become a nun.
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15 to go Sister Otis
 
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SkyBlueArmy

New Member
  • Mar 31, 2012
  • #61
Told you we would beat Hull OPTIMISM imp:
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2012
  • #62
still up in the air,lets not forget how we lost big games in past,one bad weekend puts us back in relegation zone

im hoping saturday is the day we got 4pts clear,that could clinch it and deystroy bristols morale
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 31, 2012
  • #63
It looks better each week, huge result today, now it truly is in our hands
 
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