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  • Start date Jan 28, 2014
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hill83

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  • Jan 28, 2014
  • #71
stupot07 said:
No he didn't.

Jutkiewicz joined Middlesbrough in an emergency loan deal on 14 January 2012.[20] The loan was instigated as a means to allow Jutkiewicz to play in that day's game against Burnley because a permanent transfer had not been completed in time.[21] Following the game against Burnley, the club confirmed the permanent transfer of Jutkiewicz for a fee in the region of £1.3m.[22]

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duffer

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  • Jan 28, 2014
  • #72
Hobo said:
Also means they won't have time to buy any one so will resort to a loan deal.
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And if they are absolutely true to form, the player will get the blame. Actually, that's a bit of a cheap shot in truth. In this case, the player perhaps does share some of the blame - but then he's only doing what he's always done, why would we be surprised....
 

Hobo

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  • Jan 28, 2014
  • #73
I don't blame Clarke, he has got form for it. But at least he has banged some goals in for us.

Mind you. He hasn't actually gone yet....holding breath.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 28, 2014
  • #74
stupot07 said:
No he didn't.

Jutkiewicz joined Middlesbrough in an emergency loan deal on 14 January 2012.[20] The loan was instigated as a means to allow Jutkiewicz to play in that day's game against Burnley because a permanent transfer had not been completed in time.[21] Following the game against Burnley, the club confirmed the permanent transfer of Jutkiewicz for a fee in the region of £1.3m.[22]

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Looks like age is catching up with my memory. Got the loan part right. Got the main part wrong.

Just goes to show that even the best of us can get it wrong
 

Astute

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  • Jan 28, 2014
  • #75
hill83 said:
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Have you done the pic for yourself?
 

Hobo

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  • Jan 28, 2014
  • #76
And most people got his name wrong when he was here and resorted to Jukebox fella!
 

hill83

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  • Jan 28, 2014
  • #77
Astute said:
Have you done the pic for yourself?
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Yep

 

Astute

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  • Jan 28, 2014
  • #78
hill83 said:
Yep

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You only sea what you want to sea?
 

Hobo

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  • Jan 28, 2014
  • #79
Astute said:
You only sea what you want to sea?
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A waterlogged Sixfields?
 

skybluefred

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  • Jan 28, 2014
  • #80
hill83 said:
I don't normally subscribe to the 'we are a bigger club, that is a step down' argument. And I'm fully aware they are above us in the league with higher attendances.
But Rotherham for fuck sake. Fuck me.
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I'd rather take my chances with the dog next door. Thanks for the offer though.
 

skybluefred

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  • Jan 28, 2014
  • #81
Rusty Trombone said:
Good one. So you seem to be saying the 45,000 people that turn up to Sixfields have the right to call any ambitious young chap 'greedy bastard' if he should dare to get a new job. Surely that should be chanted at all our players that have left another club to join ours. Unless of course it's massively hypocritical.
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If you sign a contract of employment for a given period of time you are legally bound by that contract.
You are also liable to give your best effort to your employer.
Nobody forced Clarke to sign the contract,He signed because it suited him.
 

skybluefred

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  • Jan 28, 2014
  • #82
torchomatic said:
Bryan Richardson?
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I must be going down with a bug of some sort, but I agree with you Torchy--he was the start of our problems.
To be fair though he only tried to do what all football fans want--to give us a winning team.Unfortunately
it cost him a fortune and the Club even more.
 

Rusty Trombone

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  • Jan 28, 2014
  • #83
skybluefred said:
If you sign a contract of employment for a given period of time you are legally bound by that contract.
You are also liable to give your best effort to your employer.
Nobody forced Clarke to sign the contract,He signed because it suited him.
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Thanks for that, very enlightening. This contract, do you reckon it spells out what either side needs to do if they want to break the contract. I reckon it does, and I suspect it would say the player would need to put in a transfer request if he wanted one. So it would appear all is well on the contract side of things.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 28, 2014
  • #84
skybluefred said:
I must be going down with a bug of some sort, but I agree with you Torchy--he was the start of our problems.
To be fair though he only tried to do what all football fans want--to give us a winning team.Unfortunately
it cost him a fortune and the Club even more.
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To be perfectly honest. If he hadn't spent cash we were going to go down quicker. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I think how we handled the relegation is more damning than how it happened to be honest. McGinnity can take credit for far more, especially manager choice and selling off half of ACL.

While, obviously it's one sided, here's how Richardson tells it:

CET said:
Asked about the club’s huge reported debts when he left in January 2002, he insisted: “Can you imagine a club like Coventry being allowed by its bank to get £59m in debt?“There is no way; it’s impossible. The day I left, our overdraft was £7.3m which was within our limits at the bank.

"The only other debt we had was money owed to Geoffrey Robinson and Derek Higgs and there was £10m to Robinson which had to be invested under his instruction on buying players – we couldn’t use it to pay wages or interest or anything else at all – and the same applied to Higgs which was about £2.5-£3m, so if you add all that up it was still only about £21-£22m.


“But the money from Higgs and Robinson was meant to be soft, long-term loans to the club because they were passionate supporters and directors.


"The only money that was absolutely on the line was the money to the bank and all that other stuff was a load of rubbish so I have no idea where they got that figure from.


"They took the transfer money that was due to go out and never took the transfer money in that we got, which was far, far greater than anything we ever had going out.


“If you look at when we sold John Hartson, Moustapha Hadji, Craig Bellamy and Chris Kirkland – there was a whole string of them that had to go – all of those came back in against any money that was due out, but they never took that in.”


Richardson left the club at the end of January 2002 and little more than three months later the balance sheets for the year ending May 31, 2002 – the club’s first year down – showed the net debt had been slashed by more than half to £27.8m, a figure that was actually even lower at around £23m due to the sales of Lee Hughes, Magnus Headman and David Thompson.


Before he was ousted, Richardson had made £22.5m for the club by selling Hartson, Bellamy, Hadji and Kirkland, but it was successor Mike McGinnity who was applauded by shareholders at the club’s AGM in December later that year.


Richardson added: “I did an agreement with them (the board) that they could carry on and we would have no further dealings and as you know I have never made a comment from that day to this.


"That was the arrangement and they broke every rule in the book and came out with all sorts of rubbish to try to justify their own position, but the worse thing was they didn’t know what they were doing for Coventry City or the fans. It was absolutely outrageous.”
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http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/football-news/want-help-save-coventry-city-3026911
 
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skybluefred

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  • Jan 28, 2014
  • #85
Rusty Trombone said:
Thanks for that, very enlightening. This contract, do you reckon it spells out what either side needs to do if they want to break the contract. I reckon it does, and I suspect it would say the player would need to put in a transfer request if he wanted one. So it would appear all is well on the contract side of things.
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Not quite the way you post it. Yes he can put in a transfer request but(a) the Club do not have to accept it.
(b) The player should make himself available and give of his best in all games before he leaves.(c) the Club are
within their rights to wait for an offer that meets their valuation.
 
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play_in_skyblue_stripes

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  • Jan 28, 2014
  • #86
Leon had a history of moving around. That's the chance you take when you buy someone with that background.

The real issue is why does he want to leave?

Playing in front of hardly any fans in an unreal situation has to be possible reason.

Good luck Leon, you were a good player at this level we find ourselves in.
 

Rusty Trombone

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 28, 2014
  • #87
skybluefred said:
Not quite the way you post it. Yes he can put in a transfer request but(a) the Club do not have to accept it.
(b) The player should make himself available and give of his best in all games before he leaves.(c) the Club are
within their rights to wait for an offer that meets their valuation.
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Agree with all of that.
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • Jan 28, 2014
  • #88
skybluefred said:
Not quite the way you post it. Yes he can put in a transfer request but(a) the Club do not have to accept it.
(b) The player should make himself available and give of his best in all games before he leaves.(c) the Club are
within their rights to wait for an offer that meets their valuation.
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(d) You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
 
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