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Saying they aren't going to pay the wages requested from the likes of clingan to stay because they "want to reduce the loss by 40%".
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Saying they aren't going to pay the wages requested from the likes of clingan to stay because they "want to reduce the loss by 40%".
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It seems that our new Director of Football doesn't understand the dynamics of a football club.The more we reduce the wage bill of the players, the weaker the squad becomes. The weaker the squad becomes. the worse the results will be. The worse the results will be, the smaller the crowds become. The smaller the crowds become, the less the gate revenue is to be. :facepalm:
The ones that stay away do not trust Sisu with there hard earned cash and i for one dont blame them or question them as they dont lie they talk with actions by staying away...So while we are stuck with these people ill be staying away as i will not help Sisu carry on this terrible period in our history...
But if we ain't got the money to pay him then we ain't got the money. No point moaning about it. If we had a full-house every week then maybe we'd have better players. Blame can be apportioned easily at SISU - which I don't disagree with - but stay-aways have to shoulder some responsibility too.
But if we ain't got the money to pay him then we ain't got the money. No point moaning about it. If we had a full-house every week then maybe we'd have better players. Blame can be apportioned easily at SISU - which I don't disagree with - but stay-aways have to shoulder some responsibility too.
But if we ain't got the money to pay him then we ain't got the money. No point moaning about it. If we had a full-house every week then maybe we'd have better players. Blame can be apportioned easily at SISU - which I don't disagree with - but stay-aways have to shoulder some responsibility too.
Erm... id rather keep Craine and Clingan and fuck off the deadwood like McPake, McSheffrey and Bell.
The more we reduce the wage bill of the players, the weaker the squad becomes. The weaker the squad becomes. the worse the results will be. The worse the results will be, the smaller the crowds become. The smaller the crowds become, the less the gate revenue is to be. :facepalm:
But how on earth do you expect people to turn up every 2 weeks and fork out £20-24 every time to watch a team lose and struggle? Been here a thousand times. Fans will only come back if there is success on the field. They've had 12 years plus of complete shite. Don't know anyone can point the finger at the fans.
Sounds like Tory economic policy.
Bit different cuircumstances !!! Unlike the government the club wont be paying penial interest rates on any money they borrow from SISU (I hope !). If anyone wonders why its necessary to reduce government spending and be considered a safer option, just look the interest rates Italy are having to pay on their national debt. Over 7% now. On 1.6trillion, thats a fair bit of annual interest. We pay around 2%. Just think if your mortgage interest more than tripled
Sounds like Tory economic policy.
Bit different cuircumstances !!! Unlike the government the club wont be paying penial interest rates on any money they borrow from SISU (I hope !). If anyone wonders why its necessary to reduce government spending and be considered a safer option, just look the interest rates Italy are having to pay on their national debt. Over 7% now. On 1.6trillion, thats a fair bit of annual interest. We pay around 2%. Just think if your mortgage interest more than tripled
It doesn't work like that though - the fact that Italy's rate is 6.5% or 7% today has no impact on the interest paid on the vast majority of their debt, because that was borrowed some time ago and the rate was fixed at the time the relevant bonds were issued. If the rate stayed this high for a long period, then gradually more and more of the interest would be at the higher rate, but the short term impact is nothing like your mortgage interest tripling.
Very good point. We are investing in the wrong members of the squad. We need to keep 2 or 3 of the very best players, fook the mediocre ones off and either bring lads through the academy or get up and coming lower league players here.
Investing in crocks and has been's is not the answer.
Its a fair argument but its a two way thing. One of the biggest mistakes was to go into the season with no momentum or optimism. SISU didnt need to spend a fortune but we all knew a decent striker to replace King was necessary. I believe by not buying someone pre season and giving the fans a lift and real hope they lost 5-6,000 on the Leicester gate. That wouldve brought in £100k+ which wouldve covered a few weeks wages for a decent free transfer striker brought in over the summer. They get a good result and all of a sudden momentum builds, fans come along to the next game (generating more revenue) etc etc. Its a lot of ifs and buts but first game of the season v your local rivals (bringing 5,000-6,000 fans) would nearly always guarantee significantly more than 21,000.
As I mention above, theres no issue with the club cutting their cloth accordingly, in fact it shouldve been done years ago, however, the haphazard way in which it has been done with a total lack of direction and forsight from the top, has screwed this season and possibly the short term future of the club.
But if we ain't got the money to pay him then we ain't got the money. No point moaning about it. If we had a full-house every week then maybe we'd have better players. Blame can be apportioned easily at SISU - which I don't disagree with - but stay-aways have to shoulder some responsibility too.
It doesn't work like that though - the fact that Italy's rate is 6.5% or 7% today has no impact on the interest paid on the vast majority of their debt, because that was borrowed some time ago and the rate was fixed at the time the relevant bonds were issued. If the rate stayed this high for a long period, then gradually more and more of the interest would be at the higher rate, but the short term impact is nothing like your mortgage interest tripling.
Ok, its like knowing your fixed rate is ending at the end of the year and youre going to move onto a standard variable at triple the amount and theres no way of moving your mortgage as nobody else wants to lend you the money. Have you seen the amounts that need repaying by Italy (at least £200-250bn in the next 12 months). let alone new borrowings. Thats if anyone is willing to lend to them. The fact is all countries need to get their spending in order.
You know what, I totally 100% agree with you. If they'd done that then who knows where we would be .
However, the fans who deliberately stay away for whatever reason aren't helping. The good old vicious circle thing.
There are various types of fans:
1) Those who go regardless (probably me)
2) Those who go and moan
3) Those who withhold their support and moan.
If you're in the last category then, personally, I think you're helping SISU rather than hindering them.
Ok, its like knowing your fixed rate is ending at the end of the year and youre going to move onto a standard variable at triple the amount and theres no way of moving your mortgage as nobody else wants to lend you the money. Have you seen the amounts that need repaying by Italy (at least £200-250bn in the next 12 months). let alone new borrowings. Thats if anyone is willing to lend to them. The fact is all countries need to get their spending in order.
I'm really not trying to be difficult but no it isn't like that - it's like having most of your mortgage at exactly the same rate as it is now, but having to refinance parts of it on a gradual basis at the rates that are current at that time.
Anyway your wider point seems to be to use the bond prices to support the policies of the UK government. I think that almost everyone would agree that, over a period, the government's budget needs to balance - the question is what period? Many people believe that severe cutbacks in a recessionary period will have exactly the wrong effect by taking demand out of the economy, so reducing tax revenues and in fact increasing the deficit while also deepening the recession.
A bright chap called JM Keynes explained all this rather well a few decades ago.
But if we ain't got the money to pay him then we ain't got the money. No point moaning about it. If we had a full-house every week then maybe we'd have better players. Blame can be apportioned easily at SISU - which I don't disagree with - but stay-aways have to shoulder some responsibility too.
Without wanting to get into politics, the Tory economic policy has been proven ineffective, if not downright dangerous, in numerous cases and by numerous studies. It's an ideological stance, not a economic one. But can we keep this on the football?
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