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Anyone else dreading the BBC classic remakes? (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Aug 4, 2016
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Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Sep 3, 2016
  • #141
Is he only 55 ?
God I thought he was much older then that.
 

Otis

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  • Sep 3, 2016
  • #142
Sky_Blue_Daz said:
Is he only 55 ?
God I thought he was much older then that.
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Me too.

I had to check it twice.

Would say from his looks he was about 68-69.
 
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Johnnythespider

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  • Sep 3, 2016
  • #143
Otis said:
Yeah, I liked it.

First few mins in I though it was going to be naff, but the script kept me interested and I thought Simon Day did a very good job. He did lack the anger of Warren Michell, who you used to see stewing in his own juices.

The let down for me was the missus, who I thought wasn't a patch on Dandy Nicholls
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It was the opposite for me Otis, I thought Simon Day missed the point of Alf completely, I just didn't feel it. Whereas I thought the Dandy Nicholls character was played well.
Maybe the TDDUP suffered because it was from an original script and there was a direct comparison to be made with the original.
I quite enjoyed the Young Hyacinth one last night and could see that going to a series.

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Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Sep 3, 2016
  • #144
I didn't like the format of Till death do us part at all

Quite enjoyed the goodnight sweat heart episode though
 

Otis

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  • Sep 3, 2016
  • #145
Maybe it was just me and my family then.

I quite liked it, but my mum and dad who watched it all through the 60's and 70's absolutely loved it.

Get the point on Simon Day. I thought it was a good portrayal but it did lack the heart and guts of Alf and it did seem to be by numbers at times.

No-one could do pent up frustration quite like Warren Mitchell.

Saw a good review on the internet, but then also came across a scathing one in the Telegraph. Thing is though, this particular reviewer really detested and hated the original and called it a repulsive programme. Hardly going to like this new one was he!!

We then obviously get on to the debate about Johnny Speight. He always maintained that he wanted to show Alf and racism for the thing it was and you were supposed to see Alf as a pitiful misguided creature rather than laugh with him.

This Telegraph guy obviously believed the latter.

I was only young when I first watched it but I thought at the time that I totally got it.

What does everyone think?

I know stuff like Love thy Neighbour gets tremendous stick these days, but in the whole I think TDUDP appears to escape the scathing criticism.
 

chiefdave

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  • Sep 3, 2016
  • #146
Otis said:
No-one could do pent up frustration quite like Warren Mitchell.
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That's the problem really, no matter who played Alf or how well they did it they wouldn't be Warren Mitchell.
Otis said:
We then obviously get on to the debate about Johnny Speight. He always maintained that he wanted to show Alf and racism for the thing it was and you were supposed to see Alf as a pitiful misguided creature rather than laugh with him.
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I thought the documentary after was going to look at that. They had Adil Ray (Citizen Khan writer and actor) and Trix Worrell (Desmonds writer) on who both said it was just a reflection of how things were at the time. Shame it was only a 5 min thing.
Graham Linehan made an interesting point that although he was a horrible person you had to on some level like Alf otherwise the program wouldn't have been popular.
 

Otis

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  • Sep 3, 2016
  • #147
chiefdave said:
That's the problem really, no matter who played Alf or how well they did it they wouldn't be Warren Mitchell.

I thought the documentary after was going to look at that. They had Adil Ray (Citizen Khan writer and actor) and Trix Worrell (Desmonds writer) on who both said it was just a reflection of how things were at the time. Shame it was only a 5 min thing.
Graham Linehan made an interesting point that although he was a horrible person you had to on some level like Alf otherwise the program wouldn't have been popular.
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Hmm, yeah, but I think Speight deliberately made him a Tory and then the show was pitched for and at the working classes. Think that created a lot of hatred towards the character and our house was all Labour, so definitely a figure to be reviled and not be rooting for.

Everything about the character was wrong, racist, sexist, bigoted; ignorant, rude, selfish. There was nothing to like about Alf and therefore it was a puzzlement as to why some of the audience associated with him and his views.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Sep 3, 2016
  • #148
Looking forward to itv doing the same and bringing back The Gaffer and crossroads
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Sep 3, 2016
  • #149
Why don't Ch4 do the same & rekindle Friends &/or Frasier (UK style) & Drop the dead donkey?

...onwards & upwards PUSB
 

Otis

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  • Sep 3, 2016
  • #150
How can Channel 4 rekindle US shows?

Been plenty of talk of a Friend's reunion, but hopefully it will never happen.

Remaking Fraser would be a total disaster in my opinion.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Sep 3, 2016
  • #151
Otis said:
How can Channel 4 rekindle US shows?

Been plenty of talk of a Friend's reunion, but hopefully it will never happen.

Remaking Fraser would be a total disaster in my opinion.
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Under licence???

Frasier has to be one of if not THE best US sitcoms ever. So...out there! Like an episode this morning where every opportunity he got despite the circumstance he levelled a complaint about his cabin on a cruise ship. Just brilliant constant snipes.

...onwards & upwards PUSB
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Sep 3, 2016
  • #152
Otis said:
How can Channel 4 rekindle US shows?

Been plenty of talk of a Friend's reunion, but hopefully it will never happen.

Remaking Fraser would be a total disaster in my opinion.
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Loved drop the dead donkey (especially the dark haired girl) but they are all to old now. I don't think Friends will as they are all still making a fortune from it with the re-runs. With you on Fraiser it would be a disaster as would Cheers.

What about an early life one foot in the grave or although I didn't like it Minder

Edit. Joy played by Susanha Doyle.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Sep 3, 2016
  • #153
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Loved drop the dead donkey (especially the dark haired girl) but they are all to old now. I don't think Friends will as they are all still making a fortune from it with the re-runs. With you on Fraiser it would be a disaster as would Cheers.

What about an early life one foot in the grave or although I didn't like it Minder

Edit. Joy played by Susanha Doyle.
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OF&H didn't work either did it? Whatever that was called.

Hyacinth seemed ok last night though imo...just lightweight easy viewing titter type stuff.

...onwards & upwards PUSB
 
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Otis

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  • Sep 3, 2016
  • #154
SkyblueBazza said:
Under licence???

Frasier has to be one of if not THE best US sitcoms ever. So...out there! Like an episode this morning where every opportunity he got despite the circumstance he levelled a complaint about his cabin on a cruise ship. Just brilliant constant snipes.

...onwards & upwards PUSB
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Under licence?

For big US shows I would guess that costing mega bucks.

Not sure what American shows would work over here. Maybe The Office and All in the Family, but not convinced..
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Sep 3, 2016
  • #155
SkyblueBazza said:
OF&H didn't work either did it? Whatever that was called.

Hyacinth seemed ok last night though imo...just lightweight easy viewing titter type stuff.

...onwards & upwards PUSB
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Only seen the Porridge one so far have good night sweetheart to watch, but the miserable one is sitting in the lounge watching some crap and refusing to watch it, I am stuck in the kids play room
 

Otis

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  • Sep 3, 2016
  • #156
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Only seen the Porridge one so far have good night sweetheart to watch, but the miserable one is sitting in the lounge watching some crap and refusing to watch it, I am stuck in the kids play room
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What's my wife doing round your house?
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Sep 3, 2016
  • #157
Otis said:
What's my wife doing round your house?
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I think he means my wife

...onwards & upwards PUSB
 

Otis

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  • Sep 3, 2016
  • #158
SkyblueBazza said:
I think he means my wife

...onwards & upwards PUSB
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Okay. What's my wife doing round your wife?
 

chiefdave

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  • Sep 3, 2016
  • #159
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Loved drop the dead donkey (especially the dark haired girl) but they are all to old now.
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Drop the Dead Donkey would be pretty easy to reboot with a new cast. Was hoping we might get something along those lines off the back of Ballot Monkeys.

Jenkin and Hamilton still work together and do shows for Hat Trick so its not out of the question.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Sep 3, 2016
  • #160
chiefdave said:
Drop the Dead Donkey would be pretty easy to reboot with a new cast. Was hoping we might get something along those lines off the back of Ballot Monkeys.

Jenkin and Hamilton still work together and do shows for Hat Trick so its not out of the question.
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They could do it based on the Telegraph instead of Globelink
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Sep 4, 2016
  • #161
Otis said:
Okay. What's my wife doing round your wife?
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I might pay to watch that!

...onwards & upwards PUSB
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Sep 4, 2016
  • #162
Just watched Goodnight Sweetheart and thought it was good and wouldn't be surprised if they brought it back.
 

Malaka

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  • Sep 6, 2016
  • #163
Just thought you guys like to know that on Dave they are showing a new series of Red Dwarf this month. It is still funny today IMO
 
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Otis

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  • Sep 8, 2016
  • #164
Anyone else watch Hancock's Half Hour? Was on at 9 tonight.

I quite enjoyed it and I thought Kevin McNally's portrayal of Hancock was very good indeed, as was the guy who played Kenneth Williams.

John Culshaw's Sid James was rather odd though and it only seemed to be the laugh that was identifiable. His voice seemed very strange.

I did laugh quite a bit at it all though, so a successful recreation I think.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Sep 8, 2016
  • #165
Agree the guy playing KW was very very good. I got the Sid James bit myself. Overall verdict for me a very definite

Didn't get a proper laugh from it at all sadly.

...onwards & upwards PUSB
 

Gazolba

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  • Sep 9, 2016
  • #166
Sky_Blue_Daz said:
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Quite enjoyed the goodnight sweat heart episode though
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Is that the show where they are whisked back in time while running on the treadmill?
 

dutchman

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  • Sep 9, 2016
  • #167
Malaka said:
Just thought you guys like to know that on Dave they are showing a new series of Red Dwarf this month. It is still funny today IMO
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Would have been nice if they'd repeated the original episodes in chronological order instead of jumping from the season finalé of Series 1 to the season premiere of Series 3 with no explanation of where Holly Mk2, Crichton Mk2 and the Starbug came from.
 

Otis

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  • Sep 9, 2016
  • #168
SkyblueBazza said:
Agree the guy playing KW was very very good. I got the Sid James bit myself. Overall verdict for me a very definite

Didn't get a proper laugh from it at all sadly.

...onwards & upwards PUSB
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Thing is, McNally sounded just like Tony Hancock and the bloke playing Kenneth Williams sounded just like Kenneth Williams and there was a touch of Hattie Jacques from Katy Wix, but Culshaw sounded nothing at all like Sid James.

It was just a weird sounding voice he put on. Just looked at some of the critical reviews and they seemed to have a problem with Culshaw's Sid James too.


Anyway, so enjoyed the thing over all and you have to remember that this is a script from the 1950's, so it was always going to be dated.

Not expecting Steptoe and Son to be any great shakes. Guessing that must be next week.
 
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