Terry_dactyl
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I really don’t get it. He was alright. I don’t think he stood out particularly.
Is it maybe because he’s expressed his affection for cov?
I actually think he's the most loved CCFC player of recent time. The only other ones I can think with similar support are Willson and Armstrong who were much better players .Social media is full of people begging him to join back and calling him 'captain'
He's been begging for us to sign him all season and we haven't so much as offered him a trial. Don't think he can take the hint.
That's the thing, wasn't he in the telegraph saying about how he wanted to be local but then got the call to go to India?
We shouldn't be a last resort in case there's nothing else, even more so when he's injured.
I think it's the fans and media who blow it up even more than him himself though.
Didn’t Reid want out citing a “gentleman’s agreement”
He has a decent 20 mins on Tuesday and nobody says owt. Baker was thrown out the club then moved for 10x money when we offered him next to fuck all
There’s a big difference
Just that Reid seems to be suggested as a better option but Baker taking a better deal is viewed by some as some sort of treachery. I don’t think he’s all that but at least he wants to be hereNot sure what that's got to do with anything, Baker is injured so can't play even if we do sign him?
He is a better option as he isnt injured...Just that Reid seems to be suggested as a better option but Baker taking a better deal is viewed by some as some sort of treachery. I don’t think he’s all that but at least he wants to be here
There is thatHe is a better option as he isnt injured...
And we talk about people finding their levels and the Championship was his. Proven by when he couldn’t do it when Birmingham got promoted to the Prem. Your right though, 15 goals is a decent return, not sure how many were pens though?Didn't you say you didn't rate McSheffrey even before his move to Blues? Howcome? He had scored 15 league goals the season before, that's the most anyone scored for us in the Championship and he wasn't even a striker
2 were penalties. I also remember you saying he got his move because Julian Joachim did all his work for him. Joachim left CCFC in 2004. Mcsheffrey moved in 2006.And we talk about people finding their levels and the Championship was his. Proven by when he couldn’t do it when Birmingham got promoted to the Prem. Your right though, 15 goals is a decent return, not sure how many were pens though?
Lots of limitations were overlooked because he was from Coventry and people did/still do roll out the red carpet for him. Similar in a way to the Carl Baker scenario now when Thorn gave McSheffrey a foot back in the door unfortunately and I think everyone was glad to see the back of him when he couldn’t really do it anymore even in L1 During a disasterous second home coming of “the prodigal son”.
Yeah I did and I’ll stick by that-a fit Joachim at the time certainly helped him. How do we know Blues were not monitoring him before 2006?2 were penalties. I also remember you saying he got his move because Julian Joachim did all his work for him. Joachim left CCFC in 2004. Mcsheffrey moved in 2006.
No that's not what you said. You said he got his move because of Joachim not that it helped him. I'm sure any younger player playing with an older more experienced player will benefit in some way. The lengths you will go to not say 'yes he was a good player for us during his first spell' is staggering. McSheffrey was a top Championship player and scored a goal every 3.5 games in that league throughout his career as a winger. He also scored a goal every 4.19 games for CCFC which over a 46 league game season is nearly 11 goals . I will ask you again, was McSheffrey a good player for CCFC before his move to Blues? Yes or noYeah I did and I’ll stick by that-a fit Joachim at the time certainly helped him. How do we know Blues were not monitoring him before 2006?
With all that has gone on over the weekend it seems an odd time for you too now appear again. Wasn’t McSheffrey an academy product? Maybe this is why you have now chosen to come out of the woodwork again?
As for McSheffrey being “a top Championship player”, come on, let’s not go over the top.
He got his move to Blues which meant he could drive around in his new Range Rover and good for him.
I think most thought that 4m odd for him at the time was good business.
In reply to your question, he was a reasonable player at that level and if you go back to my post didn’t I say that 15 goals was a good return?
Now here’s a question for you-was he a good player when he came back in L1 for us?
Not disasterous, just not as good as when he left.And we talk about people finding their levels and the Championship was his. Proven by when he couldn’t do it when Birmingham got promoted to the Prem. Your right though, 15 goals is a decent return, not sure how many were pens though?
Lots of limitations were overlooked because he was from Coventry and people did/still do roll out the red carpet for him. Similar in a way to the Carl Baker scenario now when Thorn gave McSheffrey a foot back in the door unfortunately and I think everyone was glad to see the back of him when he couldn’t really do it anymore even in L1 During a disasterous second home coming of “the prodigal son”.
Which is exactly what you have just done-YOUR OPINION “he was a top Championship player” which isn’t a fact just your opinion of which you are entitled too the same as myself.All what’s gone on? We’ve had a game postponed that’s all
That isn’t answering my question. My question had a yes or no answer.
No he wasn’t, however I don’t deny it or try and make excuses for why he was poor unlike you with the laughable Joachim post. You for some reason have a difficult time saying he was a good player before he moved.
And yes McSheffrey was a top Championship player, just look at his stats. A goal every 3.5 games a winger in the Championship, these are facts you can’t argue them.
On average he scored 12 goals a season as a winger in the Championship. Only two wingers this season in the Championship have scored more or the same - Sessegnon at Fulham and Adomah at Villa, these clubs are 3rd and 4th. McSheffrey only played for a top Championship club for one season at Birmingham.
Try facts sometimes rather than just opinion
Come on, he was terrible in his second spell, I remember people booing him and the ironic cheers when he used to get substituted. He could hardly take a penalty in the end for us. You know that saying you should never go back........Not disasterous, just not as good as when he left.
Which is exactly what you have just done-YOUR OPINION “he was a top Championship player” which isn’t a fact just your opinion of which you are entitled too the same as myself.
I did answer your question, I said he was a reasonable player for us but we done well to get 4m for him, not really sure why you want a “yes or no” answer, maybe to suit your post? But if pushed then (which is what you appear to want) was he a good player for us the answer is no, he was a reasonable player for us and not “a top Championship player” before he left.
Come on, he was terrible in his second spell, I remember people booing him and the ironic cheers when he used to get substituted. He could hardly take a penalty in the end for us. You know that saying you should never go back........
Why are you throwing the blanket over everyone else? We were having a debate/discussion about McSheffrey?What does that say for everybody else if he was terrible and still managed to finish joint top goalscorer with Juke?
That's the thing, wasn't he in the telegraph saying about how he wanted to be local but then got the call to go to India?
We shouldn't be a last resort in case there's nothing else, even more so when he's injured.
I think it's the fans and media who blow it up even more than him himself though.
Why are you throwing the blanket over everyone else? We were having a debate/discussion about McSheffrey?
Why? Again, we are talking about McSheffrey and “our opinions” on him so why are you trying to bring others into the equation?What?
...because if he performed terribly like you say and still managed to finish joint top goalscorer then everyone else must have been absolutely shocking.
What CCFC players would you class as ‘good’ in the last 15 years?
Why? Again, we are talking about McSheffrey and “our opinions” on him so why are you trying to bring others into the equation?
Your opinion of him is different to mine-nothing wrong with that. Lets now leave it there, I’m not going to alter my view, neither are you.
Enjoy what’s left of your weekend :emoji_thumbsup:
Mcsheffrey was decent when he came back until we were in league one where he had an abysmal season and was rightly slated, unfortunately people only remember that season. Pretty sure he got 15-20 goals over those two years in the champ which is a good return for someone who didn't start every game especially as we were dreadful.
its about fans bickering... players are irrelevant reallyIs this thread about Baker or mcsheffrey? I’m confused!
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