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Anti-Thorn caller on the radio..... (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Mary_Mungo_Midge
  • Start date Nov 2, 2011
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Mumford and Daughter

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  • Nov 2, 2011
  • #36
Two different teams. 1st half was good 2nd half just plain bad. Wtf was the team talk at ht?
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

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  • Nov 2, 2011
  • #37
lordsummerisle said:
Do we have the lowest wage structure in the league? One of them possibly, but the lowest? You seem to have it as fact that we do though.

Turn it around on it's head again(until it's really dizzy), how successful have we been with high profile players, a high wage structure(in the not too distant past one of the highest in the league), and umpteen loan signings?
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You can't answer my question though can you? I am asking you what you expect as you seem to profess a view if how things could be better. My question - and I ask you again, or anyone else for that matter - what is your expectation level given the ties on the operational side of the club.

I think Thorn does have his problems; of course, but equally think that he's been given such a difficult hand that any manager would struggle.

As for the wage structure, it's a comment I heard Hoffman say in interview. Moreover look at facts.. Barnsley sigh Danny Drinkwater, and Thorn states we cannot compete on wages with clubs with 'higher budgets', Doncaster have a range of players whom Saunders has explained he can get his chairman to bankroll in the short term - so this and McKay's influence sees players there we can only dream of, and last night Henderson scores freely against us (yet again) - the sort of player we simply cannot even afford to consider. This indicates Barnsley, Doncaster and Milwall are all operating at a different level to us. This appears to bear out Hoffman's claim. Moreover, by means of further proof, we have signed less players than any other team in the league. We are the only club not to have a single loan player.

We have a level of success proportional to the level of investment in, and moral of a beleaguered playing staff. Again, what more do you expect?
 
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skybluesteve76

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  • Nov 2, 2011
  • #38
Fair play. Thorn needs to go. Now!
 

stupot07

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  • Nov 2, 2011
  • #39
Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
You can't answer my question though can you? I am asking you what you expect as you seem to profess a view if how things could be better. My question - and I ask you again, or anyone else for that matter - what is your expectation level given the ties on the operational side of the club.

I think Thorn does have his problems; of course, but equally think that he's been given such a difficult hand that any manager would struggle.

As for the wage structure, it's a comment I heard Hoffman say in interview. Moreover look at facts.. Barnsley sigh Danny Drinkwater, and Thorn states we cannot compete on wages with clubs with 'higher budgets', Doncaster have a range of players whom Saunders has explained he can get his chairman to bankroll in the short term - so this and McKay's influence sees players there we can only dream of, and last night Henderson scores freely against us (yet again) - the sort of player we simply cannot even afford to consider. This indicates Barnsley, Doncaster and Milwall are all operating at a different level to us. This appears to bear out Hoffman's claim. Moreover, by means of further proof, we have signed less players than any other team in the league. We are the only club not to have a single loan player.

We have a level of success proportional to the level of investment in, and moral of a beleaguered playing staff. Again, what more do you expect?
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Some posters actually think this squad is should be somewhere between 12-16th.

Me I always expected bottom 4, hence why I am not outraged by our position.
 

Otis

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  • Nov 2, 2011
  • #40
stupot07 said:
Some posters actually think this squad is should be somewhere between 12-16th.

Me I always expected bottom 4, hence why I am not outraged by our position.
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Yes, where's Paxman this morning?
 

sky_blue_up_north

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  • Nov 2, 2011
  • #41
Just read this on the BBC Sports site from Andy Thorn I'm sick of hearing excuses and people having opinions that aren't right, I know what's right and the players will do what we say or they won't be playing. Wholesale changes on Saturday then.... http://bbc.in/rGzF0X
 

cloughie

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  • Nov 2, 2011
  • #42
johnniericoh said:
This Ian creature would condemn CCFC despite whatever they achieved - CCFC need all our support right now not this moronic twaddle from this retard - Ian go forth and multiply please

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Please please no!!! he should be castrated and not allowed to multiply
 
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CUS Wyken

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  • Nov 2, 2011
  • #43
sky_blue_up_north said:
Just read this on the BBC Sports site from Andy Thorn I'm sick of hearing excuses and people having opinions that aren't right, I know what's right and the players will do what we say or they won't be playing. Wholesale changes on Saturday then.... http://bbc.in/rGzF0X
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So basically he's saying the players are not listening to him? Speaks volumes that
 

stupot07

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  • Nov 2, 2011
  • #44
CUS Wyken said:
So basically he's saying the players are not listening to him? Speaks volumes that
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How many time did we also hear Boothroyd, Coleman, Dowie, Adams, etc say the same thing - that players were not following the instructions and coaching they had been given.
 
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CUS Wyken

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  • Nov 2, 2011
  • #45
stupot07 said:
How many time did we also hear Boothroyd, Coleman, Dowie, Adams, etc say the same thing - that players were not following the instructions and coaching they had been given.
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Exactly cant you see the trend? Once the manager loses the dressing room, its hard to get it back. Nowadays thats the problem, players have too much power.
 

cloughie

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  • Nov 2, 2011
  • #46
I am not for getting rid of Thorn as I don't see anyone doing any better with this squad.

Yet last night looks like the beginning of the end for Thorn.

Quote Thorn ' I can't understand how we can play like we did for 45 minutes and then turn in a performance like that in the second'

Sorry Andy but that's beginning to sound like Coleman as he stood there scratching his head saying something similar, just before he was shown the door.
If you can't understand then what are your options?
 
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fanta80

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  • Nov 2, 2011
  • #47
Im not against Thorn as a person and im sure he is doing his best but he has zero tactical ability and seems to have very limited motivational capabilities. He is obsessed with playing a midfield diamond when clearly this doesnt work, and yet he is reluctant to change this formation until we are 2 goals or more down. He mentions in his interview he gave them a 'positive' team talk at half time last night, then within minutes we were 2 goals down! Lets not think about the consequences of a negative team talk! The players take a lot of the blame i admit but we need a manager with some experience and different ideas tactically, somebody who can change things before its too late, and mostly a manager who can motivate an average squad of players to perform above their ability. I was at Hinckley last night watching a team of part timers play out of their skins and beat full time Darlington 3-0 in the fa cup proving that you can acheive things with limited resources and a bit of motivation from the manager.
 

stupot07

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  • Nov 2, 2011
  • #48
CUS Wyken said:
Exactly cant you see the trend? Once the manager loses the dressing room, its hard to get it back. Nowadays thats the problem, players have too much power.
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Or it could be that the players aren't capable of following instructions for a full 90 mins.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Nov 2, 2011
  • #49
To me it sounds as if Thorn is determined to put things right, we played well first half and could have been winning.
Expecting a few changes for Saturday with Cameron, Mcpake, Baker, Mcsheffrey dropping back to the bench with Christie, Hussey (if fit), Thomas and Bell coming in.

No point in changing manager now, I don't see who we could attract/afford who could do a better job.
 
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CUS Wyken

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  • Nov 2, 2011
  • #50
CCFC said:
To me it sounds as if Thorn is determined to put things right, we played well first half and could have been winning.
Expecting a few changes for Saturday with Cameron, Mcpake, Baker, Mcsheffrey dropping back to the bench with Christie, Hussey (if fit), Thomas and Bell coming in.

No point in changing manager now, I don't see who we could attract/afford who could do a better job.
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I dont get why our players came out so early at half time.
 

Otis

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  • Nov 2, 2011
  • #51
CCFC said:
To me it sounds as if Thorn is determined to put things right, we played well first half and could have been winning.
Expecting a few changes for Saturday with Cameron, Mcpake, Baker, Mcsheffrey dropping back to the bench with Christie, Hussey (if fit), Thomas and Bell coming in.

No point in changing manager now, I don't see who we could attract/afford who could do a better job.
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Could we though? BBC is reporting that we had one shot on target in the entire 90 minutes.
 

lordsummerisle

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  • Nov 2, 2011
  • #52
Otis said:
Could we though? BBC is reporting that we had one shot on target in the entire 90 minutes.
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Luckily we scored with ours on Saturday.
 
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