I am not a Wasps fan but some of this Butts talk is in the realms of romantic fiction. To develop that site and not probably to our requirements; well the deal they wouldn't do for the Ricoh would have been cheaper.
I am not a Wasps fan but.
But you are looking for deals to match SISU's pocket, which are not that deep that is the reality. But it will suit their agenda to make the right noises.But that deal isn't available now so there is no option but to look at alternatives.
I go to the Butts more than you and have never seen Wasps play...so your point is?Enough said really
I think the council have to be worried at the volatility of having Wasps as tenants of the city, they have moved their franchise once, chances are they will do it again before too long, if BPA is expanded they will then almost certainly have one empty 25,000+ stadium, which one it is depends on wether CCFC buy it from Wasps when they decide theyve had enough of Coventry.
Exactly. BPA short term emergency measure when the 2 years with Wasps are up, but no big investment. They may have a bit more capacity in 2 years, but never a new stadium. Keep looking for alternatives - your thinking on a Central Arena as part of the rejuvenation of the city centre would appeal to me. We no longer need so many retail units in town. The arcade, IceLand and that whole area should be ripped down and replaced with culture, sport and leisure. We have retail parks and Internet for shopping. Town should be for going out and/ or doing things - sport, theatre and other leisure activities. Watching CCFC as far as I'm concerned.But that deal isn't available now so there is no option but to look at alternatives.
We're the only ones they don't owe money to.Why? Do Wasps owe them any money?
Why? Do Wasps owe them any money?
I suspect that will never happen, but an empty Ricoh would be an embarassment IF that ever happened.Not a risk in a financial sense, but if Wasps do up in and go in 10-15 years time and CCFC have built an alternative 25,000 stadium, there is going to be a huge empty stadium in the city doing nothing. Wouldn't look good on the council alloeing that to happen.
They'd just blame the club. Sorted.I suspect that will never happen, but an empty Ricoh would be an embarassment IF that ever happened.
In 10 years time there May not be a SISU owned club to blame..
Never mind i am sure you'll get over it quickly and move on
It's Laughable that people { the same people} are giving this smoke screen any credence at all. Just go out and buy your season tickets quickly and I'd say very soon SISU will announce more court action against CCC and Wasps. This BPA bollocks is just a warning to Wasps not to kick us out as {'We could pull sticks again and piss off '} we have some other suckers ready to play our devious games with us.
1 SISU want somewhere to kick a ball around whilst litigation continues
2, CRFC are being drawn in by the promise of hitting the big time with increased revenue
3, CCC are being set up to be the bad guys by refusing permission somewhere down the line.
4 Wasps, actually are the only party trying to act with a level of professionalism [ And that being down to wanting CCFC fans footfall }
Can you elaborate then Mastermind ? We'll see how it plays out then shall we mystic Meg !
It's Laughable that people { the same people} are giving this smoke screen any credence at all. Just go out and buy your season tickets quickly and I'd say very soon SISU will announce more court action against CCC and Wasps. This BPA bollocks is just a warning to Wasps not to kick us out as {'We could pull sticks again and piss off '} we have some other suckers ready to play our devious games with us.
1 SISU want somewhere to kick a ball around whilst litigation continues
2, CRFC are being drawn in by the promise of hitting the big time with increased revenue
3, CCC are being set up to be the bad guys by refusing permission somewhere down the line.
4 Wasps, actually are the only party trying to act with a level of professionalism [ And that being down to wanting CCFC fans footfall }
It is wish fulfilment I think. Sky blue tinted spectacle thinking.I am not a Wasps fan but some of this Butts talk is in the realms of romantic fiction. To develop that site and not probably to our requirements; well the deal they wouldn't do for the Ricoh would have been cheaper.
I see that under Turner's article there is someone claiming that the best outcome would be for CCFC to be sold to the owners of Wasps. So, they want to sell to a hedge fund that actually moved a club 100 miles permanently. This logic is utterly insane and I am sure that there are more than a few who share this belief.
I see that under Turner's article there is someone claiming that the best outcome would be for CCFC to be sold to the owners of Wasps. So, they want to sell to a hedge fund that actually moved a club 100 miles permanently. This logic is utterly insane and I am sure that there are more than a few who share this belief.
Thats the problem. People say it would be too small but if the Ricoh isn't a viable option for us long term then what's the solution?clearly there is no other site that can be used to build a stadium
This is my point really, our options are limited. I think Wasps are happy for us to stay at the moment but the Butts option may not be around forever. If we cannot agree a future with Wasps (or choose not too) then we will be effectively homeless again.Thats the problem. People say it would be too small but if the Ricoh isn't a viable option for us long term then what's the solution?
Plenty of people have said they wouldn't step foot over the city boundary and CCC have stated there is nowhere within the boundary for a new stadium.
Thats the problem. People say it would be too small but if the Ricoh isn't a viable option for us long term then what's the solution?" Quote
If it was an existing 15000 stadium it would be a good short term option. But as it stands it will take a lot of investment to build something that is too small for the football club and too big for CRFC. It is worth exploring but I think people are getting too carried away with its viability.
I think clearly if we are looking at the Butts site it shows that we are limited in options, clearly there is no other site that can be used to build a stadium? Its clear that CCC don't want us to get this deal ahead and will block this at every avenue. Maton's usual shit at the bottom of this statement just wind me up further. Deals can be done - sorry damage has already been done here.
Both options show lack of ambition for our club but with dwindling crowds, I think a workable Butts groundshare would be preferable. Talk of getting a regular 25-30k attendance in the premier league is bullshit, we have never had that and never will apart from the grade A games.
The Ricoh is simply a no-go with the franchise wasps currently nesting there.
Lets push forward with the Butts redevelopment....15K capacity is good enough for the level we are currently at.
Get it built, hopefully CRFC & CCFC both thrive there & gain promotions & more fans....
...meanwhile, we can promote & continue a boycott of the wasps games & hope, along with their already stuttering attendances, that they fail, fold & fuck off....
......then CCFC buy the ricoh for a song....club & ground finally re-united.....& CRFC are left with a lovely 15k ground & rightly reinstated as the top rugby club in town.....
"you may say I'm a dreamer....but I'm not the only one"
Happy Friday folks.
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