Average crowds were never that low. The big difference was that anything he did he did it in what he thought would be the the best interests of the club. Yes, he made mistakes second time around. You exaggerate the anti JH feeling of the time. Amazing that if he was so reviled he always had such a good reception any time he came back to the club. (Including having the statue made).The OP has tried to introduce Jimmy Hill as a way of emphasising the point of ownership incompetence and neglect.
However, in his capacity as chairman there were similarities.
Dire crowds down to 8,000
Players being sold at a whim
Money thrown down the drain with disastrous USA franchise losses
Mass protests with threats of a very serious and vilolent nature aimed at hill
An absurd attempt to destroy the clubs heritage and rebrand it
The op has very rose tinted glasses and neglects the fact that similarities actually existed.
We've never averaged that. It was when you factor out away fans nowhere near. The number of games we've ever had with more than 25,000 Coventry fans at a game st home in the last half a century is less than 10
You should look at the average gates and also the high gates for the late sixties. You are completely wrong.We've never averaged that. It was when you factor out away fans nowhere near. The number of games we've ever had with more than 25,000 Coventry fans at a game st home in the last half a century is less than 10
Average crowds were never that low. The big difference was that anything he did he did it in what he thought would be the the best interests of the club. Yes, he made mistakes second time around. You exaggerate the anti JH feeling of the time. Amazing that if he was so reviled he always had such a good reception any time he came back to the club. (Including having the statue made).
You should look at the average gates and also the high gates for the late sixties. You are completely wrong.
About the time of the last top 6 finish.....Last time we averaged over 25,000 was 1971 btw.
Four and a half decades ago.
Well I'd say that was at 'The bottom of the cycle' wouldn't you !? That's when most takeovers take place ?!Yeah, I'd see a club with gates of 0K, no assets and plenty of debts and think 'that's the club for me'!
It's a perfectly logical reaction...
I said on the last half century - I'm completely right
When you factor out away fans FFS !We've never averaged that. It was when you factor out away fans nowhere near. The number of games we've ever had with more than 25,000 Coventry fans at a game st home in the last half a century is less than 10
Well I'd say that was at 'The bottom of the cycle' wouldn't you !? That's when most takeovers take place ?!
You honestly think the Mayfair cunts wouldn't rub their hands together if the gates ramped up to 30k per game, we would hear a lot more of 'We're not for sale then' !
Last time we averaged over 25,000 was 1971 btw.
Four and a half decades ago.
CloseAbout the time of the last top 6 finish.....
The present day ccfc is an insult to the memory of Jimmy Hill and all he achieved for the Sky Blues. He transformed an ailing club into a major force and built a foundation for it's future only to have it dismantled over the last ten years by successive owners before sisu arrived to virtually finish it's demolition.
I can no longer live on memories of the 60's 70's 80's and 90's,
although they will always remain dear to my heart.
I no longer recognise ccfc as my club, the ccfc I new has been in terminal decline until, to my mind, it no longer exists.
I have no enthusiasm for the team now masquerading as ccfc, to me it no longer is ccfc - my ccfc is no more. It has passed away. RIP ccfc.
You're completely wrong. The late sixties is in the last 50 years for starters. Also according to the clubs official website for our first season in the old division one we averaged crowds of over 30k. We played 21 league games at home that season so you're only out by about 49 years.
Yes his business interests in America did. The club partly funded a failed venture in the states.
No a large section didn't trust or relate to him at all. He sold many players to balance the books, wasted money on an absurd stadium design and fans voted with their feet. We had numerous gates of around 8,000 and even relatively big games attracted pathetic attendances. It cumulated with fans yelling "kill Jimmy hill" at the directors box and he stood down.
No he didn't throw money at the club he'd already blown it
His parting gift was to put a whole host of promising young players on contracts that all ended at the same time and collectively they decided to walk out on the club when the deals ended. As a result we had hardly any players left.
I say it as the op mentioned his name to get an emotional response. There's no denying he was a great manager a force of nature and an innovator. He also was a reckless gambler with no real strategy long term at all and as a chairman was a disaster.
Don't think that is the logic though to be fair. Think it's more any would be investor would do their homework and realise the potential fanbase here.CloseSeason of Europe, that one.
To be clear however, I'm not arguing the fans are shit for not turning up... I'm just arguing the backwards logic that says lower crowds makes us more appealing to potential buyers!
I've amended to 40 years my favourite little stalker with his debut post of the day. What a little munchkin you are Tony. Still I guess you never bothered even going until what mid 90's? You weren't a fan until your were in your twenties were you?
Very true Grendel. I'd like to add that unlike other teams we would like to compare ourselves to we have never had a sustained period of success .We've never averaged that. It was when you factor out away fans nowhere near. The number of games we've ever had with more than 25,000 Coventry fans at a game st home in the last half a century is less than 10
I recall Chelsea getting crowds of 14,000 around about the same period.There were many crowds at around that figure. In fact even in the mid 70's gates started to get as low as 10,000
People rightly remember his achievements as a manager. Also as a force majeur character - however there was definitely a large pitch invasion a lot of chanting and he left.
Grendel has hated all our chairmen apart from the current onesI am not clued up on his time as a chairman. Always just assured he was viewed as a legend as both previous manager and chairman.
It's good his spell as chairman hasn't ruined his stats due to his manager exploits
I am not clued up on his time as a chairman. Always just assured he was viewed as a legend as both previous manager and chairman.
It's good his spell as chairman hasn't ruined his stats due to his manager exploits
Grendel has hated all our chairmen apart from the current ones
Yes but he is still full of shit, that must weigh a few stoneHe's lost loads of weight you know? The current chairman that is, not Grendull. He was shouting it from the rooftops with pride. Grendull that is, not the current chairman.
We've never averaged that. It was when you factor out away fans nowhere near. The number of games we've ever had with more than 25,000 Coventry fans at a game st home in the last half a century is less than 10
The big difference is he acted in what he believed was the best interests of the club. Did he get it wrong? Absolutely. Did he do it in the best interests of some anonymous, off shore, tax haven based hedge fund over the interest of the club? Absolutely not. Why Grendull keeps repeatedly dancing on his grave in some kind of weird justification, dilution of neglect, justification, defense (to be honest I'm not sure what it is he's trying to achieve but it's definitely weird) of the current mob is beyond me. There is no comparison.
Completely WRONG!!!.... check my post #235I said on the last half century - I'm completely right
Yes but he is still full of shit, that must weigh a few stone
The point about motivation is not an unreasonable one though, is it?Was letting the contracts of possibly the best crop of young players we had had for years run out at the same time, and selling Garry Thompson against the managers wishes in the best interests of the club? Sorry I don't think it was.
Chatting shit again Grendel. Our lowest average gate in the 70's was over 19k. But lets not let FACTS get in the way eh!There were many crowds at around that figure. In fact even in the mid 70's gates started to get as low as 10,000
People rightly remember his achievements as a manager. Also as a force majeur character - however there was definitely a large pitch invasion a lot of chanting and he left.
The point about motivation is not an unreasonable one though, is it?
I'm assuming(!) we can all agree that even if turning out badly, Hill's motivation was always to do what he thought best for the club.
Not sure we can say that for the current owners...
The point about motivation is not an unreasonable one though, is it?
I'm assuming(!) we can all agree that even if turning out badly, Hill's motivation was always to do what he thought best for the club.
Not sure we can say that for the current owners...
Grendull or the current chairman?
What's up Grendel? No reply to my posts, not like you ehHow's the DIY going Tony - finished before the next game?
Was letting the contracts of possibly the best crop of young players we had had for years run out at the same time, and selling Garry Thompson against the managers wishes in the best interests of the club? Sorry I don't think it was.
I think Hill was a magnificent manager for the club, and did some good things as a chairman, but his last couple of years nearly crippled the club and were pretty dismal.
In case anyone accuses me of being a SISU lover for having the temerity of dissing something that Hill did, I must add SISU are shit, but then we all know that anyway, and answering you Tony was purely about what you had said about Hill, and nothing to do with how bad things have been under the pricks that own us.
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