Nick
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Quite true sadly, usually the same people who then try to moan about the kids and next generation of fans.
No one gives a shit about the kids party ffs.
Another one trying to deflect.
You're as bad as Nick,. It not just about "Pop and Crisps" It's the whole "Kit and caboodle"
YawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnIt isn't deflecting anything.
I replied to somebody who said about the next generation of fans and then said that one of the things JH could actually be proud about at the minute is the stuff for the kids also.
Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
I think you like the sound of your own voice mate... Always have to get the last word in...5-4-3-2-1 and..............
Yep, usually around Christmas time I think as well.
Pretty much the same as the kids parties, which was the point I was making about the next generation side of it.
Yes, and lots more stuff too. The factories etc was about getting dads to go, who, guess what, also took their kids. Even made the away trips easier for families with the sky blue special. It's difficult to separate all the stuff he did to "just kids" Nick.
Just wanted to ask Nick if was around during the Jimmy Hill era? When did you go to your first game, Nick?Yes, and lots more stuff too. The factories etc was about getting dads to go, who, guess what, also took their kids. Even made the away trips easier for families with the sky blue special. It's difficult to separate all the stuff he did to "just kids" Nick.
It's difficult to separate all the stuff he did to "just kids" Nick.
Just wanted to ask Nick if was around during the Jimmy Hill era? When did you go to your first game, Nick?
Quite true sadly, usually the same people who then try to moan about the kids and next generation of fans.
What next generation of fans? SISU f**ked that idea up about 7-8 years ago.
What drugs are you on?Thanks for confirming my point.
Link please Grendel.The OP has tried to introduce Jimmy Hill as a way of emphasising the point of ownership incompetence and neglect.
However, in his capacity as chairman there were similarities.
Dire crowds down to 8,000
Players being sold at a whim
Money thrown down the drain with disastrous USA franchise losses
Mass protests with threats of a very serious and vilolent nature aimed at hill
An absurd attempt to destroy the clubs heritage and rebrand it
The op has very rose tinted glasses and neglects the fact that similarities actually existed.
What drugs are you on?
Are you seriously trying to divert the loss of the next generation of fans on the fans of today?
SISU have killed off the next generation without the help of anyone else.
Isn't it you making the inane rantings Nick? You've picked up on ONE aspect and made it your "Cause" FFS JH was much, much more than JSB's. He was the "Umbrella of everything Coventry City FC". "Sky Blue Special(Train)" Halftime entertainment, first all seater stadium, first underground heating.What are you talking about? It's just more inane ranting that proves my point about going on about the over dramatic next generation stuff. He said nobody cares about the kids party, I said I know and sadly they will go on about the next generation of fans as well. Then you storm in confirming it.
Isn't JSB membership and tickets up on last year also? That's not down to Seppalla or Fisher either by the way.
The OP has tried to introduce Jimmy Hill as a way of emphasising the point of ownership incompetence and neglect.
However, in his capacity as chairman there were similarities.
Dire crowds down to 8,000
Is that assuming the ownership is going to be able to throw silly amounts of money at the club? What is it based on?
We need an owner to throw money at us yes, to get us to a stable level. Along side that, we need common sense, we need to own a ground, we need top facilities as a training ground, we need to maintain a top notch academy, we need to bring in good players, we need to put bums on seats and see a direction over all.
If we can get the above at some level then the amount of money needed to be pumped in should get less I'd say. I know its not that simple but overall, we need owners who can shape the club with the right structure, the rest follows.
Average crowds
1967 - 28.269
1966 - 25.370
1965 - 26.621
1964 - 26.017
1963 - 17.098
1962 - 10.256
1961 - 11.996
Similar? well, in reverse order they might be...
It's still needing an owner to pump plenty of money in. Tens of millions to get anywhere near the top of the Championship like you say.
You can have an amazing owner who tells the honest truth to the fans every day but without those millions it isn't going to make any difference.
Average crowds
1967 - 28.269
1966 - 25.370
1965 - 26.621
1964 - 26.017
1963 - 17.098
1962 - 10.256
1961 - 11.996
Similar? well, in reverse order they might be...
No one gives a shit about the kids party ffs.
I was at that game. Just looked the date up and it was the evening of 28th January 1976. I went up on the Harry Shaw and it was the only coach to go that night.........and it wasn't even full. The weather was reasonably mild in Cov but when we got to Newcastle there was snow on the ground!! I always thought that McDonald had scored a hat tick but the stats show that he only scored 2. I remember what seemed like the whole of their crowd chanting " Super Mac, Super Mac".That was the replay we lost 5-0. A city fan died on the way home by smashing his car into a motorway bridge. I recall it being headlines in the Sun/.Mirror which commented that "he had CCFC tattoed on his left hand" I was a teenager but it has always stayed with me. I was shocked.
Would you like to post other clubs gates and how much they plummeted while you're at it?As chairman - gates plummeted to 8,000 under his tenure.
In the grand scheme of things, really don't think a kids party will make a fig of difference to our future fan base. bringing your kids to a memorable matchday experience and engagement such as Micky Gynn and Peter Hormanschuck visiting your primary school in 1983 are the things that consolidate lifelong allegiance.Well they should, it's the clubs future. You're typical of many though who ignore any good stuff. Sad really.
tbf to Grendel (not often you can say that around here) he's right about his (Hill's, not Grendel's!) time as Chairman not being... great. That said, things like the Connexion, taking a stake in a foreign team, all-seater stadiums... they all ended up happening, just after we'd tried them unsuccessfully(!) So at least the club was still being proactive and trying to do something...
As chairman - gates plummeted to 8,000 under his tenure.
How would JH feel about people wanting the club liquidated?
In the grand scheme of things, really don't think a kids party will make a fig of difference to our future fan base. bringing your kids to a memorable matchday experience and engagement such as Micky Gynn and Peter Hormanschuck visiting your primary school in 1983 are the things that consolidate lifelong allegiance.
Fair enough.
Again, this side of it is actually decent. It isn't Fisher or Seppalla personally responsible for these good things either, so when having digs at stuff like this it isn't aiming the dig at them.
It's the other PR and marketing that is more dog shite.
Fair enough.
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