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American property tycoon will move to buy Coventry if club slides into administration (10 Viewers)

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  • Start date Mar 19, 2013
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ashbyjan

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  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #106
tippex9 said:
Now the Dallas Cowboys owner is a different story, throws money at the team, although they've still not won the Superbowl since late 90's, he won three though. Just built a $1billion stadium. If only........
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Prefer the example of the Green Bay Packers - most successful team in Gridiron and owned by the supporters - I did used to work in Milwaukee so no Trust bias obviously
 
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jon92

New Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #107
I read when he tried buying Leeds was worth £130m
 
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psgm1

Banned
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #108
Ccfcisparks said:
Please please let him wear a cowboy hat
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Well he does come from Texas!

I wonder if he will ignore the brilliant SBT that was once talking of 10k members only pledging 1k each, yet right now the average pledge (through their alleged 1200 members is 17K.

This works out to just under £12 each! (cannot even raise the price of a ticket each)!

Perhaps they will finally realise they will not be taken seriously and revert to just being a supporters' club (which is what the 1200 have joined already think it is) rather than a credible alternative - which I have said from DAY ONE it just isn't!

The savage way they tried to suppress any popping of their absolutely unrealistic plans was sisuesque in its viciousness. Seems when I said they could never get anywhere near the level of funding they would need was ultimately sage.

I just wish the local media would stop using these clowns as the go-to option for a fans' perspective, AS IT IS ONLY EVER THE VIEWS OF ONE PERSON.
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #109
The club is looking down a shotgun barrel. It would be great if the trust could find a true fan with squillions, or someone who loves his sport and would pump money in for a bit of ego boosting glory while working with the trust. But its not going to happen, its all money and returns these days. If Tex is the only offer on the table and it gives us a few years hope, rather than no hope under sisu, then we have to take it and prey for the best.
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #110
psgm1 said:
Well he does come from Texas!

I wonder if he will ignore the brilliant SBT that was once talking of 10k members only pledging 1k each, yet right now the average pledge (through their alleged 1200 members is 17K.

This works out to just under £12 each! (cannot even raise the price of a ticket each)!

Perhaps they will finally realise they will not be taken seriously and revert to just being a supporters' club (which is what the 1200 have joined already think it is) rather than a credible alternative - which I have said from DAY ONE it just isn't!

The savage way they tried to suppress any popping of their absolutely unrealistic plans was sisuesque in its viciousness. Seems when I said they could never get anywhere near the level of funding they would need was ultimately sage.

I just wish the local media would stop using these clowns as the go-to option for a fans' perspective, AS IT IS ONLY EVER THE VIEWS OF ONE PERSON.
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Ironic considering your continued trolling! I bet the trust are re-evaluating their stance right now after reading your post!
 
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skyblue1523

New Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #111
a multi-millionarie is no good we need billionaries to get us to the promsied land get jordan and that little fella berine to buy us the home of motor cars
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #112
She prefers to be called Katie Price nowadays.
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #113
I'm assuming you're talking about Eddie Jordan? Didn't he lose a load of money a few years ago? I seem to remember reading something about that.
 
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skyblue1523

New Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #114
psgm1 said:
Well he does come from Texas!

I wonder if he will ignore the brilliant SBT that was once talking of 10k members only pledging 1k each, yet right now the average pledge (through their alleged 1200 members is 17K.

This works out to just under £12 each! (cannot even raise the price of a ticket each)!

Perhaps they will finally realise they will not be taken seriously and revert to just being a supporters' club (which is what the 1200 have joined already think it is) rather than a credible alternative - which I have said from DAY ONE it just isn't!

The savage way they tried to suppress any popping of their absolutely unrealistic plans was sisuesque in its viciousness. Seems when I said they could never get anywhere near the level of funding they would need was ultimately sage.

I just wish the local media would stop using these clowns as the go-to option for a fans' perspective, AS IT IS ONLY EVER THE VIEWS OF ONE PERSON.
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why do you keep knocking the trust its a group of fans who want to see the best for ccfc they might not be the brightest people in the world but at least they show they care grow up and pick on something else.
 
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skyblue1523

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  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #115
kg82 said:
I'm assuming you're talking about Eddie Jordan? Didn't he lose a load of money a few years ago? I seem to remember reading something about that.
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i did'nt know he lost his money but i bet hes got bernies no. :claping hands::claping hands:
 
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Jack Griffin

Guest
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #116
chiefdave said:
As soon as you hit the phrase 'property developer' huge alarm bells go off for me. People slate SISU saying they're only interested in the stadium, would a property developer have different interests?

Would be very intested to hear what he has to say but it takes more than a name of a potential investor being planted in the press to get me excited about the future. We've been here too many times before.
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As I understand it, SISU want the assets to sell on at a profit, they are not interested in building anything.

That is their normal game, they do not develop things, they buy a company in debt, strip it to the bone, drive incredibly hard deals with debtors & sell it on as a going concern at a profit. They are not and never were likely to be here long term, 8 to 10 years is the sort of time they normally own a company. Why do you think they have a close association with insolvency practitioners...insolvency is a regular part of their operations.
 
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Darth Robins

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #117
lmao at all the posts saying a multi-millionaire is no good, we need a billionaire! We'd be lucky if Kim-jong Un took over with the state of things at the moment, just be glad SOMEONE with money is actually interested.
 

mattylad

Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #118
They claim he has a personal fortune of £157m but how much of that is tied up in property? Its quite possible that any deal ACL wise will be like the Man Und deal where a loan is taken out. I don't mind that particulalry as long as he is able to commit to funding the playing side of the club for the next 5 -7 years.
 
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Gosford Green

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #119
SISU had millions when they and Kenny Sansom galloped to the alleged rescue a few years ago,£50 million (they're figure) has been reportedly sunk into the club and look where we are.

Portsmouth,an example of foreign owners promising riches and then when all is not as first thought they end up in a worse state than we are,which really is saying something.
How about running the club as a trust?Or at least if it is to be a company then try balancing the books to avoid a repeat of the last 10 years.
 
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Ashdown1

New Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #120
This better happen now I've galloped out to get my ten gallon hat and a confederate flag !!! Yeehaaaaaa !!
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #121
AMERICAN property tycoon Preston Haskell IV is the man waiting in the wings to swoop for Coventry City should the club be placed in administration on Friday.
The Texan, who has a fortune estimated at $250million (£157m), is believed to have tried to buy Leeds United late last year.

Read More http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/co...s-coventry-city-92746-33017986/#ixzz2NzOJ2rs4






Nowhere near enough to run a football club....Anyone remember a post a couple of months ago......"If you won the Euro, would you buy CCFC"
If I remember rightly it stood at about £117m. NOBODY thought this was enough to fund the "City":facepalm:
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Gosford Green

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #122
Just found out the source is the Daily Mail.A shining beacon of responsible journalism that normally reports nothing other than immigration scare stories and worries its half dead readership with headlines about peados on every steet corner.

Lets wait and see.
 
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SkyBlueBlood

Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #123
Ccfcisparks said:
Please please let him wear a cowboy hat
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So long as he doesn't sit on front of me
 

smouch1975

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #124
American property tycoon will move to buy Coventry if club slides into administ

Lads. Five pages without Jaguar Cheerleaders. How can you expect folk to keep reading?
 
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Taga

New Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #125
It's nice to dream, but.....

The fact remains their are no facts.
Unless I've missed something, there is no official announcement, no statements of intent....just the local rag regurgitating national journalism.
 
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Taga

New Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #126
With statements like that you could get a journalists job at the Mirror Group
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #127
skyblue1523 said:
why do you keep knocking the trust its a group of fans who want to see the best for ccfc they might not be the brightest people in the world but at least they show they care grow up and pick on something else.
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Talk about damning with faint praise!
 
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Taga

New Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #128
Gosford Green said:
Just found out the source is the Daily Mail.A shining beacon of responsible journalism that normally reports nothing other than immigration scare stories and worries its half dead readership with headlines about peados on every steet corner.

Lets wait and see.
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With statements like that you could get a journalists job at the Mirror Group
 

scroobiustom

New Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #129
Preston Haskell IV was linked with Leeds - never happened....something to consider
 

davebart

Active Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #130
I'm surprised no one has commented on this

Talking to The Sunday Times about a possible Leeds takeover, in which he promised £10m to invest in players, Haskell IV said: "As a businessman I see a club that has an incredible brand and that offers a great entrepreneurial opportunity to take it back to the level which it saw in its glory days.
"It’s a very strategic investment. I love English football, the Premier League is where everyone aspires to be, and Leeds has an incredible support base, the pedigree, and a global reach, including South Africa, Australia, Ireland, and Norway. In short, it has a global following.
"It is one of the absolute blue-chip teams."

Would anyone describe CCFC as a blue chip team?


Read More http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/co...s-coventry-city-92746-33017986/#ixzz2NzbQbfTj
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #131
mattylad said:
They claim he has a personal fortune of £157m but how much of that is tied up in property? Its quite possible that any deal ACL wise will be like the Man Und deal where a loan is taken out. I don't mind that particulalry as long as he is able to commit to funding the playing side of the club for the next 5 -7 years.
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FFP rules mean nobody can just walk in & spend, spend spend...that's part of the problem. SISU's argument for rent reductions, & buy-in to the stadium is to increase revenues so they have more to invest on the playing side. The greater the revenue the greater the sum you can invest in te playing side. Whether or how much of it would go into the playing side is another issue mind you.
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #132
davebart said:
I'm surprised no one has commented on this

Talking to The Sunday Times about a possible Leeds takeover, in which he promised £10m to invest in players, Haskell IV said: "As a businessman I see a club that has an incredible brand and that offers a great entrepreneurial opportunity to take it back to the level which it saw in its glory days.
"It’s a very strategic investment. I love English football, the Premier League is where everyone aspires to be, and Leeds has an incredible support base, the pedigree, and a global reach, including South Africa, Australia, Ireland, and Norway. In short, it has a global following.
"It is one of the absolute blue-chip teams."

Would anyone describe CCFC as a blue chip team?


Read More http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/co...s-coventry-city-92746-33017986/#ixzz2NzbQbfTj
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Well, we're blue! To be fair, there's potential with this club to be big, just nobody's been able tap into that potential.
 
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logjoe

New Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #133
skyblue2k said:
American property tycoon Preston Haskell IV is waiting to swoop for Coventry City should the club be placed in administration this week.

The Texan multi-millionaire wants to buy the League One club after the Ricoh Arena landlords applied to put the club into administration. Haskell, who looked to buy Leeds last year, is awaiting the outcome of the court case before making a move.

Bargain? Coventry could yet be a good buy for the right owner

The club’s owners, hedge fund SISU, are embroiled in a row with Arena Coventry Ltd over unpaid rent of £1.3m. If a High Court application is uncontested, Coventry will be placed in administration on Friday, suffering a 10-point deduction from the Football League in the process.

In todays Daily Mail
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I dont like the idea that the same man who brought SISU in to take over the City is bringing someone else in. Also look at the experience that Liverpool, Villa and Arsenal with americans not looking very good this crisis management
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #134
Article on Preston Haskill iv

http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/stories/1997/09/29/story3.html?page=all

Parent company before Haskell went it alone with a loan from his father.

http://www.haskell.com/

Plenty of clout there. They could well be the company ACL want to work with/ Sell

to.http://www.thescratchingshed.com/2012/11/american-millionaire-hopes-to-hijack-leeds-united-takeover/
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #135
SkyblueBazza said:
FFP rules mean nobody can just walk in & spend, spend spend...that's part of the problem. SISU's argument for rent reductions, & buy-in to the stadium is to increase revenues so they have more to invest on the playing side. The greater the revenue the greater the sum you can invest in te playing side. Whether or how much of it would go into the playing side is another issue mind you.
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What happens if, for example, he decided to purchase a car parking space from CCFC for £1m a game or sponsor the team for £100m? I'm sure there will be a loophole somewhere and as soon as it's found the whole thing becomes pointless.
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #136
chiefdave said:
What happens if, for example, he decided to purchase a car parking space from CCFC for £1m a game or sponsor the team for £100m? I'm sure there will be a loophole somewhere and as soon as it's found the whole thing becomes pointless.
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I guess anything is possible. Why would anyone want to just give £1m/month though? It might fall outside of the FFP rules (if they've got the brains to think through this kind of thing...which is debatable itself)
 

wolfie

New Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #137
so our club could soon be run by cowboys.........oh wait!
 
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Ashdown1

New Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #138
Whoever comes in, if anybody will have to play by FFP rules anyway so millions will not be required. The real need is for the club to finally lose the historically gained debt and have the ability to start operating in a solvent manner to prevent this instability ever blighting the club and its ambitions again. For the last few years as a City fan we have lived with the shadow of debt hanging over us, it would be nice for us to run ethically and within our means and with a future secured. The scrub land around including train stop does need development and if that is what clinches the deal then so be it, I don't care who makes the money although I do believe the club should be compensated for the expensive decontamination programme it paid for on the site !
 
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skyblue2k

Guest
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #139
The club did not pay to decontaminate the site, I do believe at the time they paid for the site inspection and the drilling of test holes to find out the depth of contamination.
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 19, 2013
  • #140
Is the club toxic?
 
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