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Alternative Ground (9 Viewers)

  • Thread starter oldskyblue58
  • Start date Apr 24, 2013
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Will you go to an alternative "home" ground outside of the City next season?

  • Yes

    Votes: 32 13.3%
  • No

    Votes: 182 75.8%
  • Unsure

    Votes: 26 10.8%

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valiant15

New Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #211
stupot07 said:
It is also crippling because the people of Coventry don't support the club.
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Why do you think people are staying away?
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #212
mark82 said:
Leaned not learned. And no-one has supported SISU, they supported the club in the stance over the stadium. You really need to learn to read properly.
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Yeah, which in that scenario means SISU!
 
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thegameaintstraight

New Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #213
RoboCCFC90 said:
There is an old saying that goes "A dog is not just for christmas, its for life"

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If CCFC was a dog what sort would it be....... a shitsu?
sorry
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #214
valiant15 said:
Why do you think people are staying away?
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Why were they staying away in the PL?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #215
stupot07 said:
Why were they staying away in the PL?
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Suspect because the majority of seasons in the PL were drawn out struggles to stay up-not likely to get the crowds rolling in regardless of league status.
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #216
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stupot07 said:
Why were they staying away in the PL?
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We never had an average crowd as low as this in the pl.

Why do you think Portsmouth's fans have deserted them?
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #217
bigfatronssba said:
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We never had an average crowd as low as this in the pl.

Why do you think Portsmouth's fans have deserted them?
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It wasn't far off, it was about 15k in the PL. how many did Southampton and Norwich have in league one?
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #218
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Suspect because the majority of seasons in the PL were drawn out struggles to stay up-not likely to get the crowds rolling in regardless of league status.
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What did they expect?
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #219
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stupot07 said:
It wasn't far off, it was about 15k in the PL. how many did Southampton and Norwich have in league one?
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Strange as I remember 20k regularly in the late 90's.

They both got good crowds due to owners that care and success on the pitch.

What crowds should a 16th placed 3rd division club get?
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #220
What w3as the average in the first season at the Ricoh?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #221
stupot07 said:
What did they expect?
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Easy looking at it with retrospect Stu but it doesn't diminish from the fact that most people won't pay to watch a team struggle year after year. I'd be curious to know the 99/00 attendance figures, anyway-may help to prove my point.
 
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valiant15

New Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #222
stupot07 said:
It wasn't far off, it was about 15k in the PL. how many did Southampton and Norwich have in league one?
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Maybe southampton&norwich had decent and ambitious owners unlike the wankers who we have.
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #223
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Easy looking at it with retrospect Stu but it doesn't diminish from the fact that most people won't pay to watch a team struggle year after year. I'd be curious to know the 99/00 attendance figures, anyway-may help to prove my point.
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Off the top of my head it was just under 21k.
 
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valiant15

New Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #224
Fans took the top flight for granted,thought we'd always be there etc. People got fed up with the yearly relegation battles,hence why people couldn't be arsed.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #225
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
What w3as the average in the first season at the Ricoh?
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21ish, it dropped year on year since the first season and that was before sisu came in.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #226
valiant15 said:
Fans took the top flight for granted,thought we'd always be there etc. People got fed up with the yearly relegation battles,hence why people couldn't be arsed.
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My point entirely....they can't be arsed. We have one of the worst fan bases. And I'm not being pro sisu here. If fans don't come it reduces revenue, meaning players have to be sold and wage bills reduced meaning lower quality meaning less fans, etc.
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #227
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stupot07 said:
My point entirely....they can't be arsed. We have one of the worst fan bases. And I'm not being pro sisu here. If fans don't come it reduces revenue, meaning players have to be sold and wage bills reduced meaning lower quality meaning less fans, etc.
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You dont think success bring in more fans?
 
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valiant15

New Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #228
stupot07 said:
My point entirely....they can't be arsed. We have one of the worst fan bases. And I'm not being pro sisu here. If fans don't come it reduces revenue, meaning players have to be sold and wage bills reduced meaning lower quality meaning less fans, etc.
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We were getting gates of 20k when sisu rolled into town.Its up to the football club to provide a decent team for fans to support.Ccfc are selling us a product,not the other way around.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #229
stupot07 said:
My point entirely....they can't be arsed. We have one of the worst fan bases. And I'm not being pro sisu here. If fans don't come it reduces revenue, meaning players have to be sold and wage bills reduced meaning lower quality meaning less fans, etc.
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But as a club who have lost 10,000 fans off their average attendance in a decade, there is clear potential for growth that should attract potential buyers. Not to mention that success-much more attainable in L1 than The Premiership-creates a buzz and excitement that will increase gates in a way that year after year of relegation battles can't.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #230
bigfatronssba said:
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You dont think success bring in more fans?
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Yes of course, but even when it look like we were close to play offs people didnt bother.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #231
stupot07 said:
Yes of course, but even when it look like we were close to play offs people didnt bother.
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We haven't been in a Playoff position once all season. This is L1-that is not success for CCFC.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #232
Nonleagueherewecome said:
But as a club who have lost 10,000 fans off their average attendance in a decade, there is clear potential for growth that should attract potential buyers. Not to mention that success-much more attainable in L1 than The Premiership-creates a buzz and excitement that will increase gates in a way that year after year of relegation battles can't.
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Most of those extras were motivated by a new ground. The support by last season returned to the normal level of support.

Many claimed we were going up at the start of the season with a great squad and a popular manager. First game against the biggest opponents in the league and we had 14,000 in attendance.
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #233
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Grendel said:
Most of those extras were motivated by a new ground. The support by last season returned to the normal level of support.</p>
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<p>Many claimed we were going up at the start of the season with a great squad and a popular manager. First game against the biggest opponents in the league and we had 14,000 in attendance.
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If, as you say, last season was our normal support level, then doesn't that show how rock solid our support is?

I mean, the worst season in 50 years yet our support remained normal.
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #234
I've always thought that the stay away fans were perhaps justified in their decisions on the basis that they are consumers and have choices about where to take their hard earned cash.

Over the many years since the cup win Coventry City should thank the core of 10000 who have gone up season after season, witnessing poor quality on the field and poor off field management.

The problem at the moment is that fans have reached the tipping point. In my opinion a large number will choose to step back and go up to the stadium less. Fewer season ticket holders and fewer walk ups because we are uncertain about what is actually left of this once great club.

My head says I should buy a season ticket regardless of outcome.. Problem is, I am a consumer of Coventry City (Not Football) and at the moment we are at out lowest point. Some would argue that we should go up because we are real fans......Yet we are killing the club slowly if SISU remain in charge. My head says do not buy.

I speak to loads of season ticket holders who have decided not to go up regularly, some saying that they will still look out for the results..... Other's simply punch drunk and disillusioned with the whole club/game as it stands.
 
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stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #235
The last 3 seasons at Highfield Road had average league attendances of 16,055, 14,816, 14,812
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #236
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stupot07 said:
The last 3 seasons at Highfield Road had average league attendances of 16,055, 14,816, 14,812
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What were our league positions?
 
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Ashdown1

New Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #237
You can argue the do's and don'ts all you like chaps but the fact is the poll that keeps popping up tells us and hopefully any watching SISU employees that we don't want you, you utterly fucked up the club, took the wrong directions for the whole duration, tried to distress a legitimate company in order to gain property on the cheap, alienated fans with your orange goons and heavy handed reactions to protest, left the club in its worst state probably ever since foundation and possibly lost a few quid in the process { Diddums}. Please just piss off now though because 76% of us won't follow you to Northants or yam yam country or anywhere else and I'd imagine a fair few of us won't give you any more money to misappropriate while you still have tenure over our frozen bank accounts !!!
 

GaryPendrysEyes

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #238
Sisu came in with fan optimism and gates could have been held at 20k + if we had success. We didn't we flopped and the gate dropped year on year, whilst average gates in the championship held steady. Relegation and more failure took us to the lowest gates since the 60s.
Success would have got us average gates of over 20k, no doubts. Sadly Sisu bought us 6 seasons of failure.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #239
GaryPendrysEyes said:
Sisu came in with fan optimism and gates could have been held at 20k + if we had success. We didn't we flopped and the gate dropped year on year, whilst average gates in the championship held steady. Relegation and more failure took us to the lowest gates since the 60s.
Success would have got us average gates of over 20k, no doubts. Sadly Sisu bought us 6 seasons of failure.
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Gates were in decline when they took over.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #240
Grendel said:
Gates were in decline when they took over.
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The league average this season is probably around 10-11k and it will only proceed to get worse with them remaining.
 

GaryPendrysEyes

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #241
Grendel said:
Gates were in decline when they took over.
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We were failing before they got here, but we were in the Championship with gates of 19k. Their job was to improve things!
Instead we got season after season of failure and relegation. Lower gates come with failure it wasn't inevitable. Or are you suggesting the owners of the club can't do anything to improve gates?
You really are an appalling apologist for Sisu, embarrassing.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #242
GaryPendrysEyes said:
Sisu came in with fan optimism and gates could have been held at 20k + if we had success. We didn't we flopped and the gate dropped year on year, whilst average gates in the championship held steady. Relegation and more failure took us to the lowest gates since the 60s.
Success would have got us average gates of over 20k, no doubts. Sadly Sisu bought us 6 seasons of failure.
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The gate was 19k when they came, 2.5k had already been lost after the initial new ground appeal had started to rub off.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #243
GaryPendrysEyes said:
We were failing before they got here, but we were in the Championship with gates of 19k. Their job was to improve things!
Instead we got season after season of failure and relegation. Lower gates come with failure it wasn't inevitable. Or are you suggesting the owners of the club can't do anything to improve gates?
You really are an appalling apologist for Sisu, embarrassing.
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And lower gates mean less income mean less money to invest in players. Ranson said at the start we needed to average 22k to break even. We didnt, so they had to sell.
 

GaryPendrysEyes

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #244
stupot07 said:
The gate was 19k when they came, 2.5k had already been lost after the initial new ground appeal had started to rub off.
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Yes and what is it now. Ours kept on falling whilst other clubs maintained their gates because of failure on the pitch, it ain't rocket science.
 
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Ashdown1

New Member
  • Apr 25, 2013
  • #245
GaryPendrysEyes said:
We were failing before they got here, but we were in the Championship with gates of 19k. Their job was to improve things!
Instead we got season after season of failure and relegation. Lower gates come with failure it wasn't inevitable. Or are you suggesting the owners of the club can't do anything to improve gates?
You really are an appalling apologist for Sisu, embarrassing.
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There are half a dozen posters on here who accept the reality and the truth but they have dug themselves and their vital little cyber egos such a hole that at every opportunity they still come back to defend their ridiculous stance.
 
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