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Allen Resurrection (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Nov 5, 2022
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shmmeee

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  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #71
Evo1883 said:
1- Highest pass completion in the team?
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I’ll give you that. If you want someone to make a five yard pass he’s your man.

High pass completion isn’t a bonus for an AM, it suggests safe passing choices.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #72
shmmeee said:
I’ll give you that. If you want someone to make a five yard pass he’s your man.

High pass completion isn’t a bonus for an AM, it suggests safe passing choices.
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He's played 14 games centre midfield not AM
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #73
Evo1883 said:
He's played 14 games centre midfield not AM
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And makes very few passes for a CM. He’s nowhere near as involved as other midfielders. As I keep saying: he runs about a lot and makes safe five yard passes but you need more at this level.
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #74
shmmeee said:
And makes very few passes for a CM. He’s nowhere near as involved as other midfielders. As I keep saying: he runs about a lot and makes safe five yard passes but you need more at this level.
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Not sure he can sway you at this point
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #75
Evo1883 said:
Not sure he can sway you at this point
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I’ve seen him have maybe three good games for us. He can sway me by being effective on the pitch. If he’s a DM win the ball, if he’s an AM open up defences.
 

Blind-Faith

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  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #76
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #77
shmmeee said:
I’ve seen him have maybe three good games for us. He can sway me by being effective on the pitch. If he’s a DM win the ball, if he’s an AM open up defences.
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In fairness, he scored against Blackburn and assisted against Watford

That's effective

Whoscored has his defensive contribution as strong
 
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Blind-Faith

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  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #78
Sorry, I’ve just realised someone beat me to the Alien resurrection ‘gag’
 

ovduk78

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #79
shmmeee said:
Anyone who gets in the way of me seeing Sheaf Hamer Palmer O’Hare and Vik in the team together must be destroyed for the good of humanity.
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Grendel gets dogs abuse for his taxi threads yet you want Robins destroyed. That's a bit harsh!!
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #80
The Philosopher said:
I thought he did well last year, he went through a stage of tearing around midfield and nipping the ball off toes, little give and goes out wide with Dabo and Maatsen.

This year I’ve been less impressed. Good assist today but other than that there hasn’t been the wing-back link up and he’s been bullied off the ball.

He scored two goals (both of which it’s almost like the defender’s assisted by kicking through whilst he’s shooting). Other than that his shooting has been delayed (prefers to pass) or miles off target.

We’ve got some of the best midfielders that I’ve seen here in about 15 years (Hamer, O’Hare, Palmer (getting there), even Sheaf (so frustrating - quality player but does some stupid things). Allen is probably our 5th best midfielder but still better than most that has come before.

Allen’s best attribute is that he can find space and offer an outlet. He then needs to give and go. His dribbling goes nowhere because he doesn’t have the pace or strength.

He offers something to the team but he’s no Zidane.
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Are you nuts? He scored twice because he’s doing what we scream for from everyone else . Shoot first time
 

Skybluecol

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #81
Ffs, some people on this forum boil my piss. He's not top drawer, never will be, but he does a job and a job that we need. He also never, ever goes hiding in games.

Anyway, we've all got our opinions. Rant over.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #82
Skybluecol said:
Ffs, some people on this forum boil my piss. He's not top drawer, never will be, but he does a job and a job that we need. He also never, ever goes hiding in games.

Anyway, we've all got our opinions. Rant over.
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I find this strange.

I don't think anyone has said that he goes hiding have they? I haven't seen anyone say he doesn't work hard. All I have seen is that a few people feel he isn't as good as players like O'Hare, Hamer, Palmer and Sheaf. It's a bit boring just to say all our players are equally good.

I haven't seen derisory comments like those aimed at Biamou and Wilson, or the completely unfair 'lazy' comments about Palmer and Walker.
 
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Frankly_Mr_Shankly

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  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #83
Johhny Blue said:
Walker put in his shift today
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he’s awful
 
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slowpoke

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  • Nov 6, 2022
  • #84
There’s no resurrection Allen has always been a decent player and always puts a shift in not bothered if as some say he’s only just about a championship player that’s the division we are in, his work rate is exceptional and creates space about time some on here got off his back.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #85
The majority of this forum tonight
 
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letsallsingtogether

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  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #86
Grendel said:
The majority of this forum tonight
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Must be the same posters on FB who switched off when he scored.
 

Calista

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  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #87
Grendel said:
The majority of this forum tonight
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It's not the majority though is it? Most people recognise his qualities, quite a few see limitations and think we could sign better, and only a small vociferous minority keep slagging him off.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #88
Calista said:
It's not the majority though is it? Most people recognise his qualities, quite a few see limitations and think we could sign better, and only a small vociferous minority keep slagging him off.
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I think actually on here he’s been slagged off by a lot of people - no technique, shit, a dwarf, adds nothing to the team - even against West Brom when he created our best chances they aren’t anything to do with him

It’s been relentless. He doesn’t divide opinion it’s all pretty much one way
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #89
Grendel said:
I think actually on here he’s been slagged off by a lot of people - no technique, shit, a dwarf, adds nothing to the team - even against West Brom when he created our best chances they aren’t anything to do with him

It’s been relentless. He doesn’t divide opinion it’s all pretty much one way
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Don’t forget he doesn’t talk and is thick.
 
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fatso

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  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #90
Grendel said:
The majority of this forum tonight
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Even a blind squirrel finds a nut eventually.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #91
Sick Boy said:
Don’t forget he doesn’t talk and is thick.
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Embarrassing
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #92
fatso said:
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut eventually.
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second top scorer isn’t he?
 

fatso

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  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #93
Calista said:
It's not the majority though is it? Most people recognise his qualities, quite a few see limitations and think we could sign better, and only a small vociferous minority keep slagging him off.
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I think it is the majority tbf.
Just because he got on the score sheet today, dosn't mean he's suddenly become the next Pele.
You can't question his effort, but the overall contribution isn't good enough.

Fair play to him for getting his goal, it was a decisive goal and got us the 3 valuable points, but it's absolutely laughable if anyone seriously things it's in anyway some kind of vindication for his place in the starting line up.

We need better than Allen ( and quite a number of others tbf) if we are looking to challenge the top 6.
 

fatso

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  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #94
Grendel said:
second top scorer isn’t he?
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So what.
 
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MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #95
letsallsingtogether said:
Must be the same posters on FB who switched off when he scored.
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Like those two convicts who turned off in Oz at HT
 
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fatso

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  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #96
Grendel said:
second top scorer isn’t he?
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Would you drop Hamer, Sheaf Palmer or O'hare to accommodate Allen ..... I don't think so.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #97
fatso said:
Would you drop Hamer, Sheaf Palmer or O'hare to accommodate Allen ..... I don't think so.
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robins mostly left palmer out when they were all fit
 
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fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #98
Grendel said:
robins mostly left palmer out when they were all fit
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If you look at minutes per goal, he's actually fifth. (Behind Palmer)

Which just goes to show stats can prove everything and fuck all.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #99
Grendel said:
I think actually on here he’s been slagged off by a lot of people - no technique, shit, a dwarf, adds nothing to the team - even against West Brom when he created our best chances they aren’t anything to do with him

It’s been relentless. He doesn’t divide opinion it’s all pretty much one way
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Indeed.

Imagine how much of a bellend you'd have to be to relentlessly slag him off for years.

Oh.

Grendel said:
Allen other than one season at Burton has a goal scoring record of one a season - he’s an ok back up midfielder at this level but that’s it
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Grendel said:
Allen is s league 1 player he’s nowhere near the level required
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Grendel said:
the Allen contract renewal continues rk look totally absurd
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Grendel said:
Alen is mediocre at best and offers nothing
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Grendel said:
If you’d rather have the likes of Jamie Allen who does nothing ever then good for you
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Grendel said:
Allen is embarrassing in front of goal abs other than huff and puff offers very little
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Grendel said:
Because otherwise he’s a stand out player compared to third rate tripe like Jamie Allen
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Grendel said:
Allen has been utterly useless and hopelessly out of his depth
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #100
fatso said:
If you look at minutes per goal, he's actually fifth.

Which just goes to show stats can prove everything and fuck all.
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tbf Mick Harford did indeed score over 150 goals during that fantastic one season with us.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #101
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There’s always a player crowd have to knock Shipley, Waghorn last season, Biamou before him, Burge before him….wait a minute you were on their cases virtually every week.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #102
PVA said:
Indeed.

Imagine how much of a bellend you'd have to be to relentlessly slag him off for years.

Oh.
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not exactly a gotcha moment given i admitted he’s been a revelation this season and I’d been one of his biggest critics - which oddly references the thread title?

Will you now hold your hands up and admit he’s vital to the team and one of the first names on the team sheet?
 

fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #103
PVA said:
Indeed.

Imagine how much of a bellend you'd have to be to relentlessly slag him off for years.

Oh.
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This is quality
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #104
Deleted member 5849 said:
tbf Mick Harford did indeed score over 150 goals during that fantastic one season with us.
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Not even worth a squad place in Grendel's spreadsheet.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #105
Deleted member 5849 said:
tbf Mick Harford did indeed score over 150 goals during that fantastic one season with us.
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Waghorn is the third highest this season - why did we let him go
 
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