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  • Start date Feb 7, 2024
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steve cooper

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #176
MR is saying they won't look at it because the ref saw it and gave a free kick, therefore the ref has dealt with it.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #177
steve cooper said:
MR is saying they won't look at it because the ref saw it and gave a free kick, therefore the ref has dealt with it.
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How you can have this rule and VAR in the same universe I have no idea.
 
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usskyblue

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #178
The reaction of their player was telling. If you’ve ‘accidentally’ caught someone in the face, hard enough to break it, you’d check on the player you hit. This prick knew exactly what he was doing.
 
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Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #179
Completely ridiculous. Surely any injury that severe has to be looked at retrospectively. EFL totally failing in their duty of care towards players.
 
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gspotgaz

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #180
Absolute c**t Bernard is. Straight out assault and he knew it. Gunna be very enjoyable watching him get relegated… everything comes around!
 
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steve cooper

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #181
usskyblue said:
The reaction of their player was telling. If you’ve ‘accidentally’ caught someone in the face, hard enough to break it, you’d check on the player you hit. This prick knew exactly what he was doing.
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Yes, he just ran away
 
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Cheylesmore ITK

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #182
Shocking decision but the expected one from a useless FA and a useless ref.

Have we had a PL ref who isn't garbage?
 
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steve cooper

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #183
It leaves a real feeling of anger and injustice. It's a shame the police can't get involved. Basically it's assault.
 
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skyblueinBaku

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #184
What a surprise. The EFL/FA don't want to be involved (because then they would have to do something). Much better to have a glass of sherry and a prawn sandwich. Absolutely a waste of space, all of them.
 
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skyblueinBaku

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #185
steve cooper said:
It leaves a real feeling of anger and injustice. It's a shame the police can't get involved. Basically it's assault.
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Is UK law suspended on a football pitch?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #186
skyblueinBaku said:
Is UK law suspended on a football pitch?
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No
Allen should be encouraged to take out a civil acrion
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #187
Remember when Tom Davies got suspended because notts county cried?

How is this any different? If anything is worse
 
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Covkid1968#

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #188
It’s put at risk his livelihood… he will miss out on opportunities during this period…. And that could have longer term implications!!
 
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Robinshio

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #189
Covkid1968# said:
It’s put at risk his livelihood… he will miss out on opportunities during this period…. And that could have longer term implications!!
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he is also already undernourished, 6 weeks of not eating properly could turn him into an oompa lompa
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #190
Sky Blue Pete said:
No
Allen should be encouraged to take out a civil acrion
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I suspect the reality is the video evidence is not strong enough for that to be successful, which is why the EFL have taken no action. Whilst it looks to me that it was intentional the camera is not focused closely enough on the incident.
 
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skyblueinBaku

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #191
The SW forum has several mentions of a 'shoulder barge' (charge). The FA laws state that a shoulder charge must be shoulder-to-shoulder. Allen's shoulder does not include his face.
 
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Cheylesmore ITK

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #192
Deleted member 9744 said:
I suspect the reality is the video evidence is not strong enough for that to be successful, which is why the EFL have taken no action. Whilst it looks to me that it was intentional the camera is not focused closely enough on the incident.
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That isn't true. They have not taken action as the have stated the ref saw it and mentioned it is report so they deem it was dealt at the time.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #193
skyblueinBaku said:
The SW forum has several mentions of a 'shoulder barge' (charge). The FA laws state that a shoulder charge must be shoulder-to-shoulder. Allen's shoulder does not include his face.
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Im not sure it’s allowed off the ball anyway is it?
 
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no_loyalty

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #194
steve cooper said:
MR is saying they won't look at it because the ref saw it and gave a free kick, therefore the ref has dealt with it.
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Remember when the ref saw a foul on Godden in the penalty area a couple of seasons ago against Fulham, and gave a penalty. Then Godden received a retrospective ban for diving after Silva complained to the EFL. It’s a complete nonsense, the EFL make the rules up as they go.
 
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MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #195
no_loyalty said:
Remember when the ref saw a foul on Godden in the penalty area a couple of seasons ago against Fulham, and gave a penalty. Then Godden received a retrospective ban for diving after Silva complained to the EFL. It’s a complete nonsense, the EFL make the rules up as they go.
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Oh you can guarantee if it had been Vardy, they'd have been Sun/Mail articles on 'Metal plate for Vardy after apparent assault by SW player' and the EFL would have taken a slightly different stance...
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #196
Deleted member 9744 said:
I suspect the reality is the video evidence is not strong enough for that to be successful, which is why the EFL have taken no action. Whilst it looks to me that it was intentional the camera is not focused closely enough on the incident.
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Might be other evidence from camera phones or others on the pitch or expert medical opinion
 

Mcbean

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #197
behind us on the main stand there was only one small camera doing the match so i guess it shielded from that
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #198
False9 said:
Poor bloke, another reason to hate Sheff Weds
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I can still remember Gary Megson crippling Dean Emerson, one of the worst "tackles" I've witnessed.
 
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Cheylesmore ITK

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #199
Mcbean said:
behind us on the main stand there was only one small camera doing the match so i guess it shielded from that
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There's other cameras that record the game for CCFC analysis purposes.
 

Gynnsthetonic

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #200
Godden got banned for simulation diving when the ref saw it. The Allen one is baffling
 

JimmyHillsbeard

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #201
Gynnsthetonic said:
Godden got banned for simulation diving when the ref saw it. The Allen one is baffling
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The Ref saw it and gave a penalty. He didn’t spot the “offence” - simulation.
 

slowpoke

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #202
no_loyalty said:
Remember when the ref saw a foul on Godden in the penalty area a couple of seasons ago against Fulham, and gave a penalty. Then Godden received a retrospective ban for diving after Silva complained to the EFL. It’s a complete nonsense, the EFL make the rules up as they go.
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Johnnythespider said:
I can still remember Gary Megson crippling Dean Emerson, one of the worst "tackles" I've witnessed.
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That was when we played Wednesday a week before our quarter-final there. I sat in H block of the main stand with a row of Wednesday players directly behind being rested for the next week, near the end a crowd of Cov came in and waded into them and I mean waded in by the time the cops got there some were a bit battered and bruised.
It made the nationals.
 
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ptr

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #203
What an absolute joke that is. Thug. Hope Fadz smashes him for us when they play.
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #204
Hopefully the Universe will dish out a healthy dose of karma
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #205
Gynnsthetonic said:
Godden got banned for simulation diving when the ref saw it. The Allen one is baffling
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The whole point of the Godden ban was he fooled the ref. That’s what the ban was for.

The stupid rules are stupid: if it’s a red card or pen because you fooled the ref it gets overturned and you get banned. If its anything else and the ref misses it you can get retrospective action. But if its not a red card or pen and the ref sees it and gets it wrong they refuse to do anything.
 
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Hobo

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #206
Johnnythespider said:
I can still remember Gary Megson crippling Dean Emerson, one of the worst "tackles" I've witnessed.
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That was a shocker and Megson had form for it!
 
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MalcSB

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #207
shmmeee said:
The whole point of the Godden ban was he fooled the ref. That’s what the ban was for.

The stupid rules are stupid: if it’s a red card or pen because you fooled the ref it gets overturned and you get banned. If its anything else and the ref misses it you can get retrospective action. But if its not a red card or pen and the ref sees it and gets it wrong they refuse to do anything.
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The Godden situation was open to debate. He went down but, IIRC, didn’t claim the penalty himself. The ref awarded it, and arguably fooled himself.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #208
MalcSB said:
The Godden situation was open to debate. He went down but, IIRC, didn’t claim the penalty himself. The ref awarded it, and arguably fooled himself.
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Im not saying it was right but that’s the rule
 

Calista

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #209
shmmeee said:
Im not sure it’s allowed off the ball anyway is it?
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It 100% isn't
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Feb 9, 2024
  • #210
Deleted member 9744 said:
I suspect the reality is the video evidence is not strong enough for that to be successful, which is why the EFL have taken no action. Whilst it looks to me that it was intentional the camera is not focused closely enough on the incident.
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Then perhaps Jamie Allen should have made a meal of it by rolling around over and over again, like they do in the Premier league and European football.

No justice, a player fakes injury and gets a player sent off, a player IS injured NOTHING. Scandalous.
 
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