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jto123

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #36
Irish Sky Blue said:
Giving David Bell a four year contract?
Selling Lucas Jutkiewitz in relegation threatened season with no replacement being signed and the money not made available?
Selling Wilson to Bournemouth and accepting 4 useless loan players as part of the deal?
Just three Sisu transfer decisions off the top of my head that are far worse than anything going on now. If I thought about it there would be a lot more.
Some people have short, select memories
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Nope I remember all of that. I just think leaving is us obviously light in midfield without considering the clear likelihood of injury is up there. Remember the expectation was made to us that this would be a promotion push season. Obviously you think those decisions are worse, but I just disagree.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #37
fatso said:
It's not Palmer leaving that's the problem, it's not replacing him when we had the chance.
There was out of contract players or loan players that could have been training with us for a couple of weeks by now and be ready to go.
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We didn’t have the chance on deadline day. By all accounts, there was activity on and leading up to deadline day but couldn’t get a deal over the line. It’s no good panicking, getting desperate and signing any dick, Tom or Harry to fill a need. That’s how you end up either paying over the odds or signing a dud.
 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #38
Mucca Mad Boys said:
We didn’t have the chance on deadline day. By all accounts, there was activity on and leading up to deadline day but couldn’t get a deal over the line. It’s no good panicking, getting desperate and signing any dick, Tom or Harry to fill a need. That’s how you end up either paying over the odds or signing a dud.
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That's why you use the loan or contract to the end of season options.
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #39
clint van damme said:
That's why you use the loan or contract to the end of season options.
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Or in house?
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #40
clint van damme said:
That's why you use the loan or contract to the end of season options.
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Man, if only the club thought of that…

 
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wingy

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #41
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Man, if only the club thought of that…

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Except they haven't Still,so come on Kai,be the man,sink or swim time I'm afraid!
 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #42
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Man, if only the club thought of that…

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Well why haven't they used either option then?
Especially the loan market.
There seems to be a train of thought that King won't use the loanmarket, and its a mistake on his behalf.

I think he's been seduced by the notion that every signing has to have a profitable resale value, ignoring the fact our current cash cow started out as a loan deal.
 

Irish Sky Blue

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #43
wingy said:
Cometh the hour cometh the man,long awaited away debut for Kai, I hope and shining full debut awaits!
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I know it was only a friendly and also only against a League One team but I was really impressed with his performance against Stevenage. He looked a cut above the Stevenage midfielders.
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #44
Irish Sky Blue said:
I know it was only a friendly and also only against a League One team but I was really impressed with his performance against Stevenage. He looked a cut above the Stevenage midfielders.
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I hate to do it but it can be either a godsend or not for the lad let's hope he's the spark who can lift us out of the doldrums!
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #45
clint van damme said:
Well why haven't they used either option then?
Especially the loan market.
There seems to be a train of thought that King won't use the loanmarket, and its a mistake on his behalf.

I think he's been seduced by the notion that every signing has to have a profitable resale value, ignoring the fact our current cash cow started out as a loan deal.
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Free agents - we tried and failed (Browne)
and at this stage all of the good ones have been signed up. James would be a logical signing imo, but it’s not a game changer as he’d still be 4/5th choice.

Loan market - what Prem team would loan a promising youngster to be 3rd or 4th choice for us? Sheaf is a guaranteed starter, Eccles is highly regarded and Torp isn’t going to be jettisoned either. If rumours are to be believed, we tried to go for Bobby Clark who ended up going to the Bundesliga on a permanent.

When you’re going for high calibre players, not only is completing deals for players difficult, they have to be the ‘right’ player.
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #46
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Free agents - we tried and failed (Browne)
and at this stage all of the good ones have been signed up. James would be a logical signing imo, but it’s not a game changer as he’d still be 4/5th choice.

Loan market - what Prem team would loan a promising youngster to be 3rd or 4th choice for us? Sheaf is a guaranteed starter, Eccles is highly regarded and Torp isn’t going to be jettisoned either. If rumours are to be believed, we tried to go for Bobby Clark who ended up going to the Bundesliga on a permanent.

When you’re going for high calibre players, not only is completing deals for players difficult, they have to be the ‘right’ player.
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Dah dah dah, get off the fence for FS,<, excuses, give me progress or were pissing in the wind!
 
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Frostie

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #47
clint van damme said:
Well why haven't they used either option then?
Especially the loan market.
There seems to be a train of thought that King won't use the loanmarket, and its a mistake on his behalf.

I think he's been seduced by the notion that every signing has to have a profitable resale value, ignoring the fact our current cash cow started out as a loan deal.
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I believe we had a loan player lined up & then his parent club changed their minds after picking up some injuries. Player recruitment is never as simple as it seems.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #48
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Free agents - we tried and failed (Browne)
and at this stage all of the good ones have been signed up. James would be a logical signing imo, but it’s not a game changer as he’d still be 4/5th choice.

Loan market - what Prem team would loan a promising youngster to be 3rd or 4th choice for us? Sheaf is a guaranteed starter, Eccles is highly regarded and Torp isn’t going to be jettisoned either. If rumours are to be believed, we tried to go for Bobby Clark who ended up going to the Bundesliga on a permanent.

When you’re going for high calibre players, not only is completing deals for players difficult, they have to be the ‘right’ player.
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We're the only Championship team without a loan player. I can't believe that's came about by anything other than choice which the ITKs have alluded to.

It's a big mistake in my opinion, we've had some very decent loans in recent seasons, albeit Ayari last season was a disaster.

We've now got people discussing recalling Burroughs and Howley so I think it's fair to say we've done ourselves no favours.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #49
Frostie said:
I believe we had a loan player lined up & then his parent club changed their minds after picking up some injuries. Player recruitment is never as simple as it seems.
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So apparently we've let Browne, a loanee and James slip through our fingers and are once more down to the bare bones?

Oh well, at least while Latis in CM he cant play right back, every cloud!
 
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San Francisco

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #50
Mucca Mad Boys said:
James would be a logical signing imo, but it’s not a game changer as he’d still be 4/5th choice.
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Why wouldn’t he be a starter? He played the majority of Bristol’s games last season and scored several goals.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #51
Season is shaping up brilliantly. If Eccles gets injured now we literally are in a crisis.
 
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JSL

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #52
So much for cover and rotation of places. Midfield places are allocated for the foreseeable
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #53
clint van damme said:
So apparently we've let Browne, a loanee and James slip through our fingers and are once more down to the bare bones?

Oh well, at least while Latis in CM he cant play right back, every cloud!
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Or Eccles tbf!
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #54
Tommo1993 said:
Season is shaping up brilliantly. If Eccles gets injured now we literally are in a crisis.
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Do not fear. Lati is available
 

ccfc922

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #55
So that's another midfielder out for a fair amount of time.

It's almost like the majority could see this was a major issue before the end of the window closing

There's learning curves and there's incompetence. Our recruitment strategy needs looking at for January.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #56
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Do not fear. Lati is available
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Now I am zen
 
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chiefdave

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #57
San Francisco said:
Why wouldn’t he be a starter? He played the majority of Bristol’s games last season and scored several goals.
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I guess the question would be if he's as good as people on here are making out why is he without a club?
 
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stupot07

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #58
chiefdave said:
I guess the question would be if he's as good as people on here are making out why is he without a club?
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He's also going to be nowhere near the level to come straight in and play 70+ minutes. He's not played since last season and no pre season.
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #59
Solutions lads not problem's!
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #60
stupot07 said:
He's also going to be nowhere near the level to come straight in and play 70+ minutes. He's not played since last season and no pre season.
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No ones first choice solution would be Matty James, (or any other unattached player), but given we appear to have failed to land our close season targets it would be far better to have him here than not.
 
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The CableGuy

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  • Sep 27, 2024
  • #61
wingy said:
Solutions lads not problem's!
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The solutions are known to King (loans, free players) but he's rejected them.
 
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Skyblue in Baku

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #62
fatso said:
Sarcastic twat.

We could of and should of added more cover in midfield, everyone was crying out for it.
Imo Allen isnt a bad miss as he's not first choice anyway, but with Sheaf injured, how can we let Palmer go without bringing in a replacement? Whichever way you look at it, that's piss poor management, which is now coming home to roost.

We are now down to 2 fit midfielders, and 2 coming back (hopefully) from injury and Andrews who's untested!
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"Could have, should have"It's not difficult.
 

ProfessorbyGrace

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #63
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Do not fear. Lati is available
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Be still, my wildly thudding heart…

He’s a shit show at DMF, I’d rather he give Andrews a go, personally. The lad is obviously capable. My preference would be to put MVE at RFW/RW and have Lati at RB.

If we set out to press and counter, I feel we could pinch this today.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #64
The consensus on here is that he's shite anyway isn't it
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #65
fernandopartridge said:
The consensus on here is that he's shite anyway isn't it
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Not really just a stopgap really I think?
 

alexccfc99

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #66
People writing off the season cause Jamie Allen is injured - Ffs half of you think he is shite and a League 1 player anyway, get a grip
 
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fatso

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #67
Skyblue in Baku said:
"Could have, should have"It's not difficult.
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Prick
 
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procdoc

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #68
alexccfc99 said:
People writing off the season cause Jamie Allen is injured - Ffs half of you think he is shite and a League 1 player anyway, get a grip
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think it's more the lack of depth than anything else. Means we will now be running Eccles and Torp into the ground and let's face it Sheaf is made of glass
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #69
procdoc said:
think it's more the lack of depth than anything else. Means we will now be running Eccles and Torp into the ground and let's face it Sheaf is made of glass
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That's exactly it.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Sep 28, 2024
  • #70
We do have a couple of left field options. Kitching can play as a holding midfielder. Sakamoto could do a job in the middle.
 
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