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wingy

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  • Dec 5, 2022
  • #1,891
Dramatic stuff
 

1nilandwe...

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  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #1,892
tisza said:
One of the most extraordinary Test matches I've seen. A team makes 550 in its 1st innings just before lunch day 4 and still loses. A team averages nearly 7 runs an over over 2 innings of Test cricket.
There's going to be some fun with this side but be prepared for the wheels coming off once it twice.
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It was a phenomenal achievement to get a result out of that Test.
Captains and coaches often talk about not being afraid to lose, but this team genuinely seem to walk the walk.
It was four and half days of desperately trying to drag an interesting game out of that pitch. It could have gone badly wrong at almost any stage, and yet still they pushed on.

If they had lost that match on the final day. If a couple of the catches hadn't stuck etc. etc. they would still deserve an immense amount of credit for pushing the match into that position.

Stokes and McCullum deserve the Freedom of Rawalpindi.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 6, 2022
  • #1,893
1nilandwe... said:
It was a phenomenal achievement to get a result out of that Test.
Captains and coaches often talk about not being afraid to lose, but this team genuinely seem to walk the walk.
It was four and half days of desperately trying to drag an interesting game out of that pitch. It could have gone badly wrong at almost any stage, and yet still they pushed on.

If they had lost that match on the final day. If a couple of the catches hadn't stuck etc. etc. they would still deserve an immense amount of credit for pushing the match into that position.

Stokes and McCullum deserve the Freedom of Rawalpindi.
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The City lol.
Both leftbacks as well.,
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 9, 2022
  • #1,894
Well this debutant spinner looks handy...
 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • Dec 9, 2022
  • #1,895


"I once had the option to follow on another cricket team whilst out in the sub-continent but declined, as I'm sure we all would, because the only entity we should follow....is Jesus"
 
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tisza

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  • Dec 12, 2022
  • #1,896
something about this side. Don't rate Leach but he does tie down an end in these conditions. Robinson continues to improve.
But another win. Old England would have surrendered to the leg spinners in 2nd innings - haunted by 1st innings spin damage.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Dec 12, 2022
  • #1,897
Bazball was summed up pretty well on TGC a week or so ago, "everyone keeps saying wait until it fails but it doesn't fucking fail". We're well down the line now and while we're not at an Ashes win guaranteed stage every time you think they've reached the point it might fail they pull it out the bag

Of course question still remains what will happen when it does inevitably at some point go wrong but they seem so confident now I'm not sure a defeat or collapse is going to be something they dwell on and allow to turn into a run of defeats

The crazy thing is this is pretty much the same set of players Root had, has any team ever turned things around like this with so little change to the playing squad, struggling to think of one
 

tisza

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  • Dec 12, 2022
  • #1,898
chiefdave said:
Bazball was summed up pretty well on TGC a week or so ago, "everyone keeps saying wait until it fails but it doesn't fucking fail". We're well down the line now and while we're not at an Ashes win guaranteed stage every time you think they've reached the point it might fail they pull it out the bag

Of course question still remains what will happen when it does inevitably at some point go wrong but they seem so confident now I'm not sure a defeat or collapse is going to be something they dwell on and allow to turn into a run of defeats

The crazy thing is this is pretty much the same set of players Root had, has any team ever turned things around like this with so little change to the playing squad, struggling to think of one
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It's an interesting transiston.
Look at the 50 over games from 10 plus years ago. Totals were much lower but it was pre-whiteball. But scores recently can be 2 plus runs per over better than old games.
This new approach is great but there will be occasions where conditions dictate a little more caution. Whether they adapt remains to be seen. But if you're winning more than you're losing then fair play. There will be the odd horror for which they get slated.
But to go to Pakistan and create 2 wins (particularly with the first being a declaration) is so encouraging.
 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • Dec 16, 2022
  • #1,899
All out after 35 balls chasing 140. Ridiculous, one boundary and that in itself made the guy top scorer with 4

 
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SkyBlueSoul

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  • Dec 18, 2022
  • #1,900
European Cricket just keeps on giving

 
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tisza

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  • Dec 19, 2022
  • #1,901
This England team has such momentum. Now a 18 year old pops in and takes 5 on debut - more impressive as he's done against players brought up on spin. Barring a complete meltdown it's a 3-0 win in Pakistan
One of the "benefits" of the COVID season was a lot of teenagers getting county cricket - can only be a benefit rather having a load of Kolpak or average players being kept on past their best
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 19, 2022
  • #1,902
tisza said:
This England team has such momentum. Now a 18 year old pops in and takes 5 on debut - more impressive as he's done against players brought up on spin. Barring a complete meltdown it's a 3-0 win in Pakistan
One of the "benefits" of the COVID season was a lot of teenagers getting county cricket - can only be a benefit rather having a load of Kolpak or average players being kept on past their best
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A reason why I think it'd be so much better if football got rid of U21's for 'reserves' and limited squad sizes, especially at bigger clubs. Get talented youngsters playing competitive men's football at a younger age and make them hungrier to succeed instead of spending a decade at a top academy/youth team and get released at 24 a millionaire.
 

tisza

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  • Dec 19, 2022
  • #1,903
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
A reason why I think it'd be so much better if football got rid of U21's for 'reserves' and limited squad sizes, especially at bigger clubs. Get talented youngsters playing competitive men's football at a younger age and make them hungrier to succeed instead of spending a decade at a top academy/youth team and get released at 24 a millionaire.
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Just think football is a bit more difficult than cricket due to the much higher risk/reward element - promotion, relegation etc values. but Pl clubs confuse me with the huge money they spend on non-elite overseas players whilst they have had years to perfect expensive academies.
 

tisza

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #1,904
Comfortable win to cap an impressive 3-0. Hope people remember the wins through aggressive declarations under this new regime because occasionally it will backfire.
Positives amongst players - Harry Brook - don't mess about with him. continue him at 5.
Ollie Robinson is an elite quick bowler - cupboard not so bare when Jimmy / Broad not available.
Duckett, Ahmed thrown their hats in the ring
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 20, 2022
  • #1,905
tisza said:
Comfortable win to cap an impressive 3-0. Hope people remember the wins through aggressive declarations under this new regime because occasionally it will backfire.
Positives amongst players - Harry Brook - don't mess about with him. continue him at 5.
Ollie Robinson is an elite quick bowler - cupboard not so bare when Jimmy / Broad not available.
Duckett, Ahmed thrown their hats in the ring
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So impressed all round. What a series albeit not the best Pakistan team. Suddenly a bit of strength in depth. If archer ever comes back as well !!!
 
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MusicDating

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  • Dec 21, 2022
  • #1,906
chiefdave said:
Bazball was summed up pretty well on TGC a week or so ago, "everyone keeps saying wait until it fails but it doesn't fucking fail". We're well down the line now and while we're not at an Ashes win guaranteed stage every time you think they've reached the point it might fail they pull it out the bag

Of course question still remains what will happen when it does inevitably at some point go wrong but they seem so confident now I'm not sure a defeat or collapse is going to be something they dwell on and allow to turn into a run of defeats

The crazy thing is this is pretty much the same set of players Root had, has any team ever turned things around like this with so little change to the playing squad, struggling to think of one
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This is a fascinating insight from Broady and really highlights the change in mindset -

 
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1nilandwe...

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #1,907
MusicDating said:
This is a fascinating insight from Broady and really highlights the change in mindset -

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There's also a story going around of Pope saying to Stokes after his ugly 4-ball duck in Pindi that he must be in a really good space to be able to play so aggressively and not be worried about his wicket falling. It's hard to really compute how different the dressing room must be compared to previous regimes.

I am much more on the side of cricket purism than the average guy I'd say. I want 5 day test matches and I had no problem watching Cook and Sibley bat for ages, but even I am finding this transformation genuinely thrilling.

Yes, Pakistan were depleted and already below average, but to bat as they did AND take 60 wickets - on different pitches and in different ways - is a monumental achievement.

Finally, in a funny way, I'm looking forward to when this new approach backfires. Maybe they'll lose a home series, or get blown away in New Zealand. And on the evidence of the first Aus v SA test, the Aussies will be fighting fire with fire come the Ashes. I think it will be fascinating to see how they respond to that.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #1,908
1nilandwe... said:
There's also a story going around of Pope saying to Stokes after his ugly 4-ball duck in Pindi that he must be in a really good space to be able to play so aggressively and not be worried about his wicket falling. It's hard to really compute how different the dressing room must be compared to previous regimes.

I am much more on the side of cricket purism than the average guy I'd say. I want 5 day test matches and I had no problem watching Cook and Sibley bat for ages, but even I am finding this transformation genuinely thrilling.

Yes, Pakistan were depleted and already below average, but to bat as they did AND take 60 wickets - on different pitches and in different ways - is a monumental achievement.

Finally, in a funny way, I'm looking forward to when this new approach backfires. Maybe they'll lose a home series, or get blown away in New Zealand. And on the evidence of the first Aus v SA test, the Aussies will be fighting fire with fire come the Ashes. I think it will be fascinating to see how they respond to that.
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Nobody can win indefinitely-but it’s about having the confidence to play the way you think the game should be played knowing it’ll succeed more often than not
 
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1nilandwe...

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #1,909
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Nobody can win indefinitely-but it’s about having the confidence to play the way you think the game should be played knowing it’ll succeed more often than not
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Exactly. That first test was an embodiment of that mentality. Everybody had to buy into the distinct possibility of losing that match comfortably and looking pretty silly to boot, just in order to have a chance at an exciting finish, let alone a victory.

I'm pretty sure every other captain ever would have thought, 'first trip to Pakistan in twenty years, get used to conditions, overs in the bowlers legs, see this out, 0-0 with two to play, etc. etc.' Shane Warne would have been on comms saying that he would have declared ages ago and nobody would have taken him seriously.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 22, 2022
  • #1,910
Not sure if people saw this on sky during test but if not

 

tisza

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  • Dec 23, 2022
  • #1,911
tisza said:
I'll put my hands up about questioning Curran but more in the longer forms. Wasn't expecting him to have this sort of tournament.
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Obviously pays off 1.85m IPL contract !!
 

SkyBlueSoul

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  • Dec 30, 2022
  • #1,912
Hope he's alright, the picture of the car looks awful. Apparently fell asleep and ended up flipping it

Rishabh Pant: India wicketkeeper in hospital after car crash

India wicketkeeper Rishabh Pant "dozed off" before his car flipped twice and caught fire in Uttarakhand.
www.bbc.co.uk
 

tisza

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  • Feb 16, 2023
  • #1,913
Love the aggressive declaration on day one of a Test. Something you just don't see happen and it paid off nicely
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Feb 16, 2023
  • #1,914
They wanted to bowl at them in the dark, i guess
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Feb 16, 2023
  • #1,915
It’s worth the risk Anderson could have hung around for half an hour and it’s just wasted time.
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Feb 16, 2023
  • #1,916
Great day at the Office 2 or more wickets in the morning session and we could be well in command.
 
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Bertola

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  • Feb 16, 2023
  • #1,917
Day night games are really a bit of a farce with the conditions aren’t they? This one hasn’t even had the benefit of making it easier for us to watch over here!
 

SkyBlueSoul

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  • Feb 17, 2023
  • #1,918
Awful leave by Mitchell vs great ball by Robinson
 

SkyBlueSoul

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  • Feb 17, 2023
  • #1,919
Also just seen that it's the 1000th wicket from the Anderson/Broad partnership. 1 more to equal Warne/McGrath
 
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tisza

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  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #1,920
Got to rethink this bazball in my own mind Goes against the grain of years of thinking. But this is a decent bowling attack with home conditions yet nearly every batsman has an SR of 70+.
When Broad hits one of his spells he is something to watch.
 

Mcbean

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  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #1,921
Listened overnight much to wife’s annoyance - Broads 10 overs must have been special - will have to catch up with those on the tv - will win
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #1,922
Mcbean said:
Listened overnight much to wife’s annoyance - Broads 10 overs must have been special - will have to catch up with those on the tv - will win
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Defintiely.That declaration on the first day set this up.We had two goes at them while the ball was pretty new and held the whip hand from there on .
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 18, 2023
  • #1,923
thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
Defintiely.That declaration on the first day set this up.We had two goes at them while the ball was pretty new and held the whip hand from there on .
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Great tactic
 
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tisza

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  • Feb 19, 2023
  • #1,924
Comfortable win. Anderson just keeps producing
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 22, 2023
  • #1,925
Anderson back at the top of the bowling charts at 40. Incredible athlete and just a superb servant for England

James Anderson: England bowler returns to top of Test rankings

England's leading wicket-taker James Anderson ends Australia captain Pat Cummins' four-year reign as the leading Test bowler in the world.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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