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Nick · Feb 16, 2019

Ha cov mad!
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Coventry City CEO David Boddy said in his programme notes for the Sky Blues game against Walsall that there have been no talks with either Wasps or Coventry City Council about the Sky Blues extending their tenure at the Ricoh Arena.

The Wyre Piddle hailing and club killing Boddy, whom many feel that the Sky Blues would be far better off without, “Unfortunately there have been no talks between the football club and either Wasps or Coventry City Council

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From what I can see, the majority of our fans think he has improved things here. Good to see the spin.

Nick · Feb 16, 2019

CJ_covblaze said:
There’s no excuse to not meet Dave Boddy. What’s the hold up?

It's like beating my head against a wall.

chiefdave · Feb 16, 2019

Nick said:
It's like beating my head against a wall.

If only there was some sort of group, maybe made up of supporters, who could put pressure on the council about this sort of thing :banghead:

usskyblue · Feb 16, 2019

chiefdave said:
If only there was some sort of group, maybe made up of supporters, who could put pressure on the council about this sort of thing :banghead:

One with credibility and that didn’t burn all bridges that lead to the owners m8 ?

oldskyblue58 · Feb 16, 2019

There needs to be dialogue. If not directly between the three parties via some intermediary. But above all between Sisu and wasps.

However this knock back should not be a surprise. Previously when legals have been going dialogue ceased. From CCC point of view they would have been advised by their legal department to say nothing. Talks embargoed. Sisu would expect this

There may be also half an eye at ccc on what could happen in the future in terms of possible further legal action.

Yes Boddy has done some good things at CCC but in terms of the real problems facing Ccfc he Is a marginal figure.

Boddy carries no authority he isn't a director or an owner. Nor is he an impartial conduit to talks. Yes he is titled as CEO but he is CEO of Otium who are of course named in the court action against ccc. He has to try but surely he would have been briefed as to what to talk about and the expected reaction ? Nothing in this is without plan on both sides.

That's the advice I suspect CCC are acting on - say nothing - but it may be simply it suits not talk so as to apply pressure.

Stamping the feet in the match day program won't actually have helped other than make fans feel more frustrated. I would suggest there has been contradictions on all sides. It all serves on all sides to harden attitudes .....

It still remains that the two parties that need to settle their differences are wasps and Sisu. Don't know about you I don't see a possibility of that until after the supreme court judgement.

Stalemate. And there is little that might change it that I can see, be it protests, talks with fans groups, media appeals or spats.

I also don't believe the EFL will act against its own member in the final analysis or that there is not a plan B.

All sides painting their own pictures ..... all very frustrating

Nick · Feb 16, 2019

oldskyblue58 said:
There needs to be dialogue. If not directly between the three parties via some intermediary. But above all between Sisu and wasps.

However this knock back should not be a surprise. Previously when legals have been going dialogue ceased. From CCC point of view they would have been advised by their legal department to say nothing. Talks embargoed. Sisu would expect this

There may be also half an eye at ccc on what could happen in the future in terms of possible further legal action.

Yes Boddy has done some good things at CCC but in terms of the real problems facing Ccfc he Is a marginal figure.

Boddy carries no authority he isn't a director or an owner. Nor is he an impartial conduit to talks. Yes he is titled as CEO but he is CEO of Otium who are of course named in the court action against ccc. He has to try but surely he would have been briefed as to what to talk about and the expected reaction ? Nothing in this is without plan on both sides.

That's the advice I suspect CCC are acting on - say nothing - but it may be simply it suits not talk so as to apply pressure.

Stamping the feet in the match day program won't actually have helped other than make fans feel more frustrated. I would suggest there has been contradictions on all sides. It all serves on all sides to harden attitudes .....

It still remains that the two parties that need to settle their differences are wasps and Sisu. Don't know about you I don't see a possibility of that until after the supreme court judgement.

Stalemate. And there is little that might change it that I can see, be it protests, talks with fans groups, media appeals or spats.

I also don't believe the EFL will act against its own member in the final analysis or that there is not a plan B.

All sides painting their own pictures ..... all very frustrating

So why are they meeting the Trust if they can't say anything about anything to anyone?

Boddy is obviously saying that to pressure the council and point out the contradiction. He has a point though doesn't he?

Of course there are contradictions everywhere, strangely some don't want certain ones mentioned.

oldskyblue58 · Feb 17, 2019

Perhaps because the trust are not involved in the court action ? Did the trust report say anything of note ? It got lambasted on here because it didn't. Was there really much to say from that meeting I suspect not.

Never said he shouldn't say something or that some dialogue should not take place. Its how its said i suppose. He has to try and keep trying. But has or will the match day comments change things other than create some anger. Last time things only changed through the efforts of third Parties and the need to be back changing Sisu stance.

As CEO, boddy takes his instruction from the director or the owner .... As an employee he has to. He reports back to the director and owner.

I would guess that things are not what they seem on all sides including with boddy.

Familiar patterns of tactics and strategy from all concerned. I tend to keep in mind that all sides have detailed planning going on, nothing is knee jerk, last minute or emotional (except the fans in general). Just like with all the previous problems at the club. Not sure I trust any public utterances from any of the main players.

Nick · Feb 17, 2019

oldskyblue58 said:
Perhaps because the trust are not involved in the court action ? Did the trust report say anything of note ? It got lambasted on here because it didn't. Was there really much to say from that meeting I suspect not.

Never said he shouldn't say something or that some dialogue should not take place. Its how its said i suppose. He has to try and keep trying. But has or will the match day comments change things other than create some anger. Last time things only changed through the efforts of third Parties and the need to be back changing Sisu stance.

As CEO, boddy takes his instruction from the director or the owner .... As an employee he has to. He reports back to the director and owner.

I would guess that things are not what they seem on all sides including with boddy.

Familiar patterns of tactics and strategy from all concerned. I tend to keep in mind that all sides have detailed planning going on, nothing is knee jerk, last minute or emotional (except the fans in general). Just like with all the previous problems at the club. Not sure I trust any public utterances from any of the main players.

The trust must be involved in something as they have been sworn to secrecy by wasps and the council.

Of course boddy is an employee and that all sides will be at it (playing games). It's a shame really that it would only be boddy or sisu that get pressured or questioned about it and when the council and wasps contradict people close their ears.

In fact we will probably see a 10 page article from jhw pushed by the trust as to why it wasn't a contradiction just after another secret meeting..

chiefdave · Feb 17, 2019

Find it hard to believe there are people actually defending the councils stance.

Imagine if this was any other business in the city. A business that had been here over 100 years, employed local people, generated millions for the local economy and was one of the most instantly recognisable things about the city nationally and internationally.

Now imagine that business could, in a few months, either move out of the city or cease to exist completely. Would anyone find it acceptable for our council to refuse multiple requests to meet with the company?

Its just another example where people go 'SISU' and everything else gets ignored.

Nick · Feb 17, 2019

chiefdave said:
Find it hard to believe there are people actually defending the councils stance.

Imagine if this was any other business in the city. A business that had been here over 100 years, employed local people, generated millions for the local economy and was one of the most instantly recognisable things about the city nationally and internationally.

Now imagine that business could, in a few months, either move out of the city or cease to exist completely. Would anyone find it acceptable for our council to refuse multiple requests to meet with the company?

Its just another example where people go 'SISU' and everything else gets ignored.

Expect some propaganda to come out to drown it out

Step in particular people and we go again.....

Liquid Gold · Feb 17, 2019

It's time for the public statement to go out to the council that they should talk. Start turning the screw now or you lose any chance of ever earning some credibility.

letsallsingtogether · Feb 17, 2019

Liquid Gold said:
It's time for the public statement to go out to the council that they should talk. Start turning the screw now or you lose any chance of ever earning some credibility.

A statement has gone out tonight not a written one but a visual one.
Not saying anymore you'll find out in the morning.
Just the start to remind the council we are still here.
I know what will be written on here tomorrow.
Queue ..... waste of time

chiefdave · Feb 17, 2019

letsallsingtogether said:
Not saying anymore you'll find out in the morning.

Why is every protest or action of any sort a big secret? Don't we want as many people as possible to know?

Liquid Gold · Feb 17, 2019

chiefdave said:
Why is every protest or action of any sort a big secret? Don't we want as many people as possible to know?

mark82 · Feb 17, 2019

CJ_covblaze said:
There’s no excuse to not meet Dave Boddy. What’s the hold up?

Can the trust not pressure them to meet him (as it seems they will talk with the trust)? Even maybe be in on the meeting? You're right, there's no excuse.

mark82 · Feb 17, 2019

letsallsingtogether said:
A statement has gone out tonight not a written one but a visual one.
Not saying anymore you'll find out in the morning.
Just the start to remind the council we are still here.
I know what will be written on here tomorrow.
Queue ..... waste of time

Why wouldn't you tell us? We're all fans. It's like some old boys group where you only know if you can give the right hand signals. If something is being done, tell people. It'll shut some of us up, at least for a while.

letsallsingtogether · Feb 17, 2019

mark82 said:
Can the trust not pressure them to meet him (as it seems they will talk with the trust)? Even maybe be in on the meeting? You're right, there's no excuse.

Can anyone pressure them to do anything all councils are a law of their own, they say one thing and do another.

mark82 · Feb 17, 2019

chiefdave said:
Why is every protest or action of any sort a big secret? Don't we want as many people as possible to know?

Exactly, it might be something we can reciprocate.

Something individuals can do is write to local councillors to express their opinion. Councillor contact details are normally published on the council website. I don't live in Coventry but something I might look to do this week.

letsallsingtogether · Feb 17, 2019

Liquid Gold said:

Here is the reason people dont want to say or do anything.
The usual responses.

mark82 · Feb 17, 2019

letsallsingtogether said:
Can anyone pressure them to do anything all councils are a law of their own, they say one thing and do another.

They can try. Might not work, but can only try (and do it publicly).

mark82 · Feb 17, 2019

letsallsingtogether said:
Here is the reason people dont want to say or do anything.
The usual responses.

It's a reason you should. It only gets these responses because it comes across like you need to be in the know.

letsallsingtogether · Feb 17, 2019

mark82 said:
Exactly, it might be something we can reciprocate.

Something individuals can do is write to local councillors to express their opinion. Councillor contact details are normally published on the council website. I don't live in Coventry but something I might look to do this week.

This has been done was slagged off on here only the other week.

mark82 · Feb 17, 2019

letsallsingtogether said:
This has been done was slagged off on here only the other week.

Didn't see that. Shouldn't stop people doing it though.

ajsccfc · Feb 17, 2019

letsallsingtogether said:
Here is the reason people dont want to say or do anything.
The usual responses.

That was specifically in response to you teasing something but refusing to say more though, please just tell us whatever it is.

letsallsingtogether · Feb 17, 2019

Just remiding the council that there is a Football team in this City

Liquid Gold · Feb 17, 2019

letsallsingtogether said:
Just remiding the council that there is a Football team in this City

What is that? Genuine question as I don't know where it is and don't know what I'm looking at.

mark82 · Feb 18, 2019

letsallsingtogether said:
Just remiding the council that there is a Football team in this City

Thanks for trying, but I can't work out what it is. On my phone though, so will try to look on my pc when I get chance.

usskyblue · Feb 18, 2019

letsallsingtogether said:
Just remiding the council that there is a Football team in this City

Brilliant m8 !

What the eff is it ?

Skybluefaz · Feb 18, 2019

Is it bits of sky blue ribbon again? Think I can make it out

usskyblue · Feb 18, 2019

SkyBlueZack · Feb 18, 2019

Across the words Ricoh arena it says home to Coventry city and wasps rfc

CJ_covblaze · Feb 18, 2019

Skybluefaz said:
Is it bits of sky blue ribbon again? Think I can make it out

fernandopartridge · Feb 18, 2019

Liquid Gold said:
What is that? Genuine question as I don't know where it is and don't know what I'm looking at.

It's the hoardings on the walk from the station into town, near the council new offices.

Deleted member 5849 · Feb 18, 2019

fernandopartridge said:
It's the hoardings on the walk from the station into town, near the council new offices.

Ominously, seems to have a bunch of things on the first line that were great hopes for the city and its future prosperity, that then failed!

ccfctommy · Feb 18, 2019

It's sky blue ribbons. CJ put some better photos on Twitter. I like it. Subtle and with an obvious message

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