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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #246
Saddlebrains said:
If we cant compete with 15k a week yet Dougs wanting play offs minimum we should give up now
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If he’s on 15k per week now and has been offered a ‘record contract’, we’re not competing with 15k per week, are we?

He’ll be a good signing if we get it over the line, but if PNE want to desperately keep him and throw money at him, leave them to it.
 
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Grendel

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #247
Mucca Mad Boys said:
It’s not just wages though, there’s things like contract length to address. In the short term, Browne would be a fantastic signing over the next 1-3 seasons. If we want to be in the Prem in the next few years a longer term contract might make more sense for PNE to offer rather than ourselves.

Again, we’re not flush with money so if a target is outside our price range, we just need to move on.

Overpaying on just a few thousand here on wages, or bunds of thousands/millions there on transfer fees is a sure way to end up like Derby, Blues or teams that have overspent in recent years.
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How on earth would offering a player wages on a 3 year deal mean we end up like Derby or Birmingham?
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #248
Grendel said:
How on earth would offering a player wages on a 3 year deal mean we end up like Derby or Birmingham?
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That’s not what I said. The point is around overpaying players on our internal valuation. You had Blues and Derby signing players for overinflated transfer fees and wages. Ivan Sunjic cost £6.3 million, for example.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #249
Mucca Mad Boys said:
If he’s on 15k per week now and has been offered a ‘record contract’, we’re not competing with 15k per week, are we?

He’ll be a good signing if we get it over the line, but if PNE want to desperately keep him and throw money at him, leave them to it.
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Preston have a much smaller fan base too, let them throw their money away , 15k in the Championship is a lot.
 

Matt smith

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #250
Skyblue Bangkok said:
Preston have a much smaller fan base too, let them throw their money away , 15k in the Championship is a lot.
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It’s not really a lot in my opinion
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #251
Skyblue Bangkok said:
Preston have a much smaller fan base too, let them throw their money away , 15k in the Championship is a lot.
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Its not
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #252
Think saddle makes a good point
Expectations need to match budget and investment
Robins and adi will of course continue to get more out than is expected and we clearly have far far more playing staff assets than we have had for many years and our wage bill is higher than for years

but …. If it’s top 10 then we have to manage our hopes
We’ll see - still lots to be excited about
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #253
Matt smith said:
It’s not really a lot in my opinion
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When the Tv money is so much lower compared to the PL then in my opinion 15k is a lot. Time will tell I guess.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #254
Saddlebrains said:
Its not
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That’s not what is on offer though, is it? If PNE are outbidding Sheffield United for Browne, does it not tell you that they’re perhaps overpaying him?

You’d think they’re offering close to 22-25k per week to keep their talisman. I’m not sure he’s worth that to us.
 

edgy

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #255
Brown has a "verified" salary on Capology of 10k a week. Preston's highest earner on there is £15k. You would imagine they would try to match that for him. But wouldnt imagine much more.

2024-2025 Preston North End FC Salaries and Contracts

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fernandopartridge

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #256
robbiekeane said:
Bunch of moaning bastards

COH is going and has been for ages because we can’t match premier league wages - that’s fine and that’s appropriate

If we miss out on this guy because Preston offer more money than we think he’s worth then again, disappointing but glad we aren’t being reckless with contracts etc.
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Indeed, as decent a player as he may be, do you really want to make a 29 year old your highest paid player
 
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TinPotTaylor

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #257
I really doubt he's gonna stay at Preston, no matter what the offer is.

Been there for most of his career and I think he is more than capable of playing in a team that actually pushes for promotion. Will be unreal for us and I do believe he is the exact piece of the puzzle we are missing. Wages he's on is all spec but has probably been offered their highest wage, but does he wanna be the talisman of the mid-table maestro's? Pay him the money, get him to sure up our midfield and go from there...
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #258
fernandopartridge said:
Indeed, as decent a player as he may be, do you really want to make a 29 year old your highest paid player
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Players like Simms and Wright are our highest paid players because they’re strikers and the club believe they are players who can compete in the Prem if we got there.

Browne is a top end Championship player and would be a good signing, is he someone to compete in the Prem? Probably not. At 29, a large, multi-year contract is riskier for us than PNE.
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #259
We're always going to live within our means (within reason as there is always going to be a loss).

If the 25k pw limit is true, then good. If we go up 2.5k for a player, then another player we want, asks for 2.5k more. We'll get into a situation where we can't manage/control the wage bill.

Doug putting pressure on MR, the coaches, recruitment, etc saying he wants this or that, is a good thing. We should always try to overachieve but I'm sure he is realistic underneath.

Him coming out and saying he wants playoffs is surely better than saying "due to our finances, we're aiming for midtable, don't get too excited".
 
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Grendel

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #260
The thing King has to do next season is properly see the benefit of the loan market
 
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Marty

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #261
We've lost Kelly, who signed his last contract as club captain in the Championship, he would have been on 10k+ a week I would have thought. So when you look at players like that who produce next to nothing for us and replacing him with a top end player like Browne, for a few grand more, it's worth the money imo, most likely he would be coming in as club captain with a proven pedigree in this division, and we wouldn't need to wait 6 months for him to get upto speed either. Brings with him some much needed bite and leadership to our midfield.
 
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junglej13

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #262
Mucca Mad Boys said:
That’s not what is on offer though, is it? If PNE are outbidding Sheffield United for Browne, does it not tell you that they’re perhaps overpaying him?

You’d think they’re offering close to 22-25k per week to keep their talisman. I’m not sure he’s worth that to us.
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Friend of mine is a PNE fan. He reckons Brown is on £20k a week already and they are offering him more.

The Nixon story is classic agent stuff just trying to drive offers off. Shouldn't see Doug or the club coming in for criticism for not putting their money where their mouth is. Browne fits the profile of someone I think we need at the minute but I couldn't tell you too much about him and have never noticed him against us. He's got to want to come to play for us not simply be touting himself to the highest bidder.
 
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Littlewood CCFC

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #263
Saddlebrains said:
If we cant compete with 15k a week yet Dougs wanting play offs minimum we should give up now
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I'm sure we can compete with 15k - It's more if King/Robins think the player is worth investing 15/20k in the player. We shouldn't be getting our pants pulled down because agents know we can spend a bit more these days.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #264
Littlewood CCFC said:
I'm sure we can compete with 15k - It's more if King/Robins think the player is worth investing 15/20k in the player. We shouldn't be getting our pants pulled down because agents know we can spend a bit more these days.
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But that’s an inevitable consequence - agents already know we’re in for a likely 10m windfall
 
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Northeast sky blue

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #265
Admittedly I haven't seen much of Preston play, but is he really that good to be commanding that sort of wage.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #266
Marty said:
We've lost Kelly, who signed his last contract as club captain in the Championship, he would have been on 10k+ a week I would have thought. So when you look at players like that who produce next to nothing for us and replacing him with a top end player like Browne, for a few grand more, it's worth the money imo, most likely he would be coming in as club captain with a proven pedigree in this division, and we wouldn't need to wait 6 months for him to get upto speed either. Brings with him some much needed bite and leadership to our midfield.
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Stop talking sense
 
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Danceswithhorses

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #267
The thing that might be blinding Doug, as a reasonably successful business man, is that he wants our players to be 'assets' and for the club to grow their value, to fund a) our losses and b) our future player purchases.
Older players certainly have less asset value and less margin to grow value, so maybe that's why he's less keen to go after them.
Additionally, loan players are not assets (as we don't own them), and he clearly seemed to use a strategy of not using them last season, despite evidence from the previous season, that they really helped our push into the playoffs.

As fans, we just want 'good' players here, and if Browne is as good as Preston fans think, and we are led to believe, he might be worth it, to help the younger players, and give some steel to our midfield.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #268
Sky Blue Pete said:
Think saddle makes a good point
Expectations need to match budget and investment
Robins and adi will of course continue to get more out than is expected and we clearly have far far more playing staff assets than we have had for many years and our wage bill is higher than for years

but …. If it’s top 10 then we have to manage our hopes
We’ll see - still lots to be excited about
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Let’s judge after the summer though Pete. Windows not even open yet

I always appreciate saddles gossip and inside info but sure it was only a couple of weeks back when he was saying Ohare was walking around like Mr Big Bollocks, now he’s saying we should make him highest paid player after he was hardly setting the world alight in the run in

I really like ohare as a player and wanted to keep him. I’d even have put him up in the mix of the best paid players if he signed in Jan but if looks/sounds like he wanted to have a crack at a higher/different league which is his prerogative and I hope he does well wherever he ends up

Hard to comment on Browne until we know what Preston offered him.
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #269
25 players on 20k a week is £26.5m wage bill over a season. I’d expect we’d be looking at around a £15k/week average for our wage bill.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #270
shmmeee said:
25 players on 20k a week is £26.5m wage bill over a season. I’d expect we’d be looking at around a £15k/week average for our wage bill.
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Peanuts
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #271
Saddlebrains said:
If we cant compete with 15k a week yet Dougs wanting play offs minimum we should give up now
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15k though ? There’s no way they only offered Browne 15k to stay

Whatever you think of king, he’s come in broken our transfer record and put players on 4 year deals on our biggest salaries for years
 
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hill83

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #272
Sky Blue Pete said:
Peanuts
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Sick Boy

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #273
Skyblue Bangkok said:
When the Tv money is so much lower compared to the PL then in my opinion 15k is a lot. Time will tell I guess.
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It was the last time we were in the Championship but it's not a lot these days.
 

fatso

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #274
I'd be very disappointed if we were to be outbid by Preston.

If he chose to stay for non financial reasons, ie, his family is settled, and he felt he has loyalty to Preston having been there for 10 years etc etc, then fair enough.
 

skybluecam

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #275
edgy said:
Brown has a "verified" salary on Capology of 10k a week. Preston's highest earner on there is £15k. You would imagine they would try to match that for him. But wouldnt imagine much more.

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Capology is bull
 

skybluecam

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #276
Browne looks to be a good signing but he’s also 29 so there’s unlikely to be significant sale value in 2/3 years. Don’t think we should be breaking the bank for him.
 
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CovLis86

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #277
He's, understandably, looking for one final big pay day for the next 3 years until his playing career will be heading towards an end. I'd rather Preston paid him that luxury for sentimental reasons, rather than us pay over the odds weekly just to quieten some of this forum up. It isn't Browne or nothing - the money would be spent elsewhere, and more wisely.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #278
fatso said:
I'd be very disappointed if we were to be outbid by Preston.

If he chose to stay for non financial reasons, ie, his family is settled, and he felt he has loyalty to Preston having been there for 10 years etc etc, then fair enough.
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If PNE are ‘outbidding’ ourselves, Celtic and Sheffield United, the likelihood is that they’re overpaying him significantly because all 3 clubs have more financial resources.

In which case, we should move on. It’s not worth it.
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #279
Danceswithhorses said:
The thing that might be blinding Doug, as a reasonably successful business man, is that he wants our players to be 'assets' and for the club to grow their value, to fund a) our losses and b) our future player purchases.
Older players certainly have less asset value and less margin to grow value, so maybe that's why he's less keen to go after them.
Additionally, loan players are not assets (as we don't own them), and he clearly seemed to use a strategy of not using them last season, despite evidence from the previous season, that they really helped our push into the playoffs.

As fans, we just want 'good' players here, and if Browne is as good as Preston fans think, and we are led to believe, he might be worth it, to help the younger players, and give some steel to our midfield.
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That's what I want. A well run club, making smart decisions not based on emotion.

Sure, we haven't been promoted but in two years but we've got to the playoff final and flirted with them. We have a starting 11 that is as good as anyones in the league next year.

Whatever is going on the background is working, fans becoming entitled and impatient shouldn't change that.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 20, 2024
  • #280
Mucca Mad Boys said:
If PNE are ‘outbidding’ ourselves, Celtic and Sheffield United, the likelihood is that they’re overpaying him significantly because all 3 clubs have more financial resources.

In which case, we should move on. It’s not worth it.
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To be honest if they're going to break the bank for him then it weakens their ability elsewhere in the market, would be no bad thing.
 
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