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Kingokings204

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #736
Sick Boy said:
The only positive is that we will soon have £350M a week pumped into the NHS and we will all have more money in our pockets.
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Yes and I'm still waiting for my house price to collapse, mortgage to double and this emergency budget imediately after a leave vote oh and world war 3. Shall we wait together?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #737
Kingokings204 said:
Yes and I'm still waiting for my house price to collapse, mortgage to double and this emergency budget imediately after a leave vote oh and world war 3. Shall we wait together?
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I wonder how we'd have fared without the Bank of England pumping money into the economy?
 
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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #738
Sick Boy said:
I wonder how we'd have fared without the Bank of England pumping money into the economy?
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Probably would of resulted in world war 3 as we were told.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #739
clint van damme said:
you could also flip that around and say people are desperate to find good news that isn't there.
As I said in a previous post, I think the economic pointers are a little confusing and no one can say for sure which way this will pan out.

My opinion, for what it's worth, will be we will enter a brexit induced recession, it won't be the end of the world, we'll come out the other side to be no better off than we were, but remainers will be pissed off at some of the benefits of EU membership we've lost, leavers will be pissed off at some of the concessions we'll have made during divorce proceedings and we'll all be asking ourselves was it really worth it?
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I'll still believe we leave when I see it...

My prediction is that talks don't go anywhere fast, an extension to talks is agreed, the unpopularity of the government means that this affects the public's opinion towards Brexit whilst, meanwhile, the EU makes some general concessions to prevent such a vote happening in other countries.

Then Theresa May goes into the bathroom, sees David Cameron having a shower, and realises it's all been a bad dream.

After this, there'll be constant arguing about how the reboot of Britain and the EU compares to the previous series.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #740
Kingokings204 said:
Probably would of resulted in world war 3 as we were told.
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We've already had one moron suggest the UK could have gone to war with Spain.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #741
Just realised what thread this is on btw. Quite an achievement to shift quite so far, eh!

Anyway, to get back on topic Hitler bad, Stalin bad. Americans who like either of those two... bad.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #742
Deleted member 5849 said:
Just realised what thread this is on btw. Quite an achievement to shift quite so far, eh!

Anyway, to get back on topic Hitler bad, Stalin bad. Americans who like either of those two... bad.
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The Brexit blowhards strike again!
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #743
Deleted member 5849 said:
Just realised what thread this is on btw. Quite an achievement to shift quite so far, eh!

Anyway, to get back on topic Hitler bad, Stalin bad. Americans who like either of those two... bad.
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there's been far more dramatic turns in threads than this to be fair!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #744
clint van damme said:
there's been far more dramatic turns in threads than this to be fair!
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True, just impressed that we've given up on the EU thread to go for the one about Americans.

A sign of trading conditions to come...?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #745
Grendel said:
No he clearly hasn't a clue about bond markets.
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Couldn't give a toss about bond markets as we are talking about currency graphs and currency exchange rates relating to actual cash values of currencies... but you do like a deflection when your side is losing...
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #746
Kingokings204 said:
No it isn't but the dollar graph was. That what I was referring to. How many times can I tell you that. Even before the brexit vote the euro graph started falling 2 years from today and you haven't explained that? You haven't explained why the pound starting falling against the dollar even earlier in mid 2014?

You failed to acknowledge the bond markets also. Do you even know what they are? All this tells me you haven't got a clue or you are just will fully ignoring it which wouldn't shock me. Which one is it?
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You were talking about exchange rates not the bond market. You got confused on the currency values and now you are deflecting to the bond markets - which are not shown on your or Schmee's graphs.
 
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martcov

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #747
Kingokings204 said:
No it isn't but the dollar graph was. That what I was referring to. How many times can I tell you that. Even before the brexit vote the euro graph started falling 2 years from today and you haven't explained that? You haven't explained why the pound starting falling against the dollar even earlier in mid 2014?

You failed to acknowledge the bond markets also. Do you even know what they are? All this tells me you haven't got a clue or you are just will fully ignoring it which wouldn't shock me. Which one is it?
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This one?

"Europe’s biggest power company by market value is steering clear of pound-denominated bonds because of the uncertainty caused by the U.K.’s decision to exit the European Union."
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #748
For what it's worth, I still think we will end up with something similar to Norway and have FoM in all but name.
 
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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #749
martcov said:
You were talking about exchange rates not the bond market. You got confused on the currency values and now you are deflecting to the bond markets - which are not shown on your or Schmee's graphs.
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Not a clue what you are on about. Nothing new. Deluded
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #750
martcov said:
This one?

"Europe’s biggest power company by market value is steering clear of pound-denominated bonds because of the uncertainty caused by the U.K.’s decision to exit the European Union."
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What's that got to do with my post you quoted. I agree with the comment.
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #751
Kingokings204 said:
Shows a 3 year though doesn't it? You know way before brexit happened?
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Why bother?
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #752
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Sick Boy said:
The Euro was supposed to be on the verge of collapse
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Well the euro is essentially a German led currency. It permits the crippled Southern Europe country's to borrow at insanely low rates

German banks have negative interest rates against an inflation rate of 2% - at some point the European Bank will have to consider rate rises as that is not sustainable. Then countries like Greece and Portugal will default.

So yes it's a real possibility and really has zero to do with exchange.
 

chiefdave

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #753
shmmeee said:
This is the same graph for dollars:
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To avoid anymore confusion Dollar and Euro 10 year history side by side.

 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #754
Sick Boy said:
The only positive is that we will soon have £350M a week pumped into the NHS and we will all have more money in our pockets.
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Makes you wonder why there's so many complaints about the divorce bill, will be less that a years money.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #755
chiefdave said:
Makes you wonder why there's so many complaints about the divorce bill, will be less that a years money.
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I don't really understand it either...
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #756
Sick Boy said:
I don't really understand it either...
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Why should we pay anything? The eu haven't a clue what we owe do they?
 
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martcov

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #757
Kingokings204 said:
What's that got to do with my post you quoted. I agree with the comment.
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Great. We agree it was Brexit that has screwed the pound and that this may lead to the bond market shifting to safer currencies.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #758
martcov said:
Great. We agree it was Brexit that has screwed the pound and that this may lead to the bond market shifting to safer currencies.
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No as his point related to the currency we value against - the dollar.

The Euro against the pound other than one short period in 2015 what's always been pretty consistent - Daves chart shows this.

We are within 5% of levels we were at 5 years ago. You also see sharp declines during the 2008 crises followed by recovery.

So the pound isn't screwed at all is it?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #759
Grendel said:
Why should we pay anything? The eu haven't a clue what we owe do they?
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I'm sure that both parties have a figure in mind and we all know the UK will end up paying it to start trade talks.

Not paying its' way is really going to make the UK a trustworthy party to enter trade talks with to other countries, isn't it?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #760
Grendel said:
Why should we pay anything? The eu haven't a clue what we owe do they?
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Because we have a share of the liabilities from our period of membership. The EU operates under a multi year budget. The current budget, agreed by the UK when we were still members, runs to 2020. We have committed to that so will have to pay for it. Some of it is an upfront payment to cover contingent liabilities agreed during our membership that will be reimbursed should those liabilities not occur.

Then you've got things like our contribution to EU employees pensions and the costs to the EU of us leaving such as moving offices based in the UK and decommissioning programs that benefit the UK.

They aren't plucking numbers out of thin air, there is a methodology on the EU side, as far as I'm aware we haven't given the methodology we believe should be used:
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sit...ential-principles-draft-position-paper_en.pdf
The variance in the numbers being thrown around is because there is also money that will be due to the UK. Some people are only quoting liabilities, others are giving a net figure but maximising or minimising the amount we will rebate from the EU.
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #761
Sick Boy said:
I'm sure that both parties have a figure in mind and we all know the UK will end up paying it to start trade talks.

Not paying its' way is really going to make the UK a trustworthy party to enter trade talks with to other countries, isn't it?
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Paying what? What's the formula? I think European business will want trade talks soon.

They were even trying to say future aid projects overseas should be part of the bill

Non. The rest of Europe can pay for that.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #762
Grendel said:
Paying what? What's the formula? I think European business will want trade talks soon.

They were even trying to say future aid projects overseas should be part of the bill

Non. The rest of Europe can pay for that.
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Ahh yes just like how you predicted all those makers of German cars and Italian wine would guarantee Britain a great deal ha ha ha
 
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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #763
Sick Boy said:
Ahh yes just like how you predicted all those makers of German cars and Italian wine would guarantee Britain a great deal ha ha ha
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Have they not?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 2, 2017
  • #764
Kingokings204 said:
Have they not?
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Yes they are crumbling under the pressure of the might of Great Britain and Davis is running rings around them. Brexit Britain is already booming!
 
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The Lurker

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  • Sep 3, 2017
  • #765

If you get 20 minutes watch this. Shows what idiots the left are
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 3, 2017
  • #766
The Lurker said:

If you get 20 minutes watch this. Shows what idiots the left are
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Infowars - run by Alex Jones who said the Sandy Hook school massacre was a fake and the pictures of children who died were posed by child actors. It lead to the families of the deceased being harassed by conspiracy theorists, but the left are idiots, OK mate!
 
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The Lurker

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  • Sep 3, 2017
  • #767
clint van damme said:
Infowars - run by Alex Jones who said the Sandy Hook school massacre was a fake and the pictures of children who died were posed by child actors. It lead to the families of the deceased being harassed by conspiracy theorists, but the left are idiots, OK mate!
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so you refuse to talk about the video? Ok mate!
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 3, 2017
  • #768
The Lurker said:

If you get 20 minutes watch this. Shows what idiots the left are
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No matter what you think of Info Wars, this video paints a pretty accurate picture of the current left.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Sep 3, 2017
  • #769
The Lurker said:
Shows what idiots the left are
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All the right are Nazi racists eh? Interesting...
 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 3, 2017
  • #770
The Lurker said:
so you refuse to talk about the video? Ok mate!
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of course there are idiots on the left, none on the right though? And you use infowars for a source of information, fuck me!
 
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