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  • Start date Aug 16, 2017
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Sick Boy

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  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #421
scubasteve said:
You sound like a lovely person.
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You sound even nicer sticking up for Nazis.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #422
Sick Boy said:
I forget that Nazis are lovers of democracy and equality. I'm sure the majority protesting either celebrate the holocaust or seeing it as a massive hoax. Fair enough if you are an apologist for these people.
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They are not but if the society they live in allows such views to be expressed then the suppression is anti democratic

Ironically in two posts you've just proved my accusation against you of being 100% correct and that you have more in common with the Charlottsville mob than anyone on here.
 
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scubasteve

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #423
Sick Boy said:
You sound even nicer sticking up for Nazis.
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Is that your answer for everything thing? At what point did I stick up for a Nazi?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #424
scubasteve said:
Is that your answer for everything thing? At what point did I stick up for a Nazi?
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You didn't - like all extremists he doesn't like facts but liked to try and insult, threaten and character assisinate anyone who opposes his way of the world.

Sound familiar?
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #425
Grendel said:
They are not but if the society they live in allows such views to be expressed then the suppression is anti democratic

Ironically in two posts you've just proved my accusation against you of being 100% correct and that you have more in common with the Charlottsville mob than anyone on here.
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Hardly, I don't indulge in violence. Shockingly enough though, I think Nazis are vile scumbags who should be challenged at every turn and history had taught us that we should never let our guard down.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #426
Grendel said:
You didn't - like all extremists he doesn't like facts but liked to try and insult, threaten and character assisinate anyone who opposes his way of the world.

Sound familiar?
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Your idol Farage?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #427
Grendel said:
You didn't - like all extremists he doesn't like facts but liked to try and insult, threaten and character assisinate anyone who opposes his way of the world.

Sound familiar?
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Or are you discussing yourself trying to portay me ad supporter of antifa for not liking Nazis?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #428
Grendel said:
You didn't - like all extremists he doesn't like facts but liked to try and insult, threaten and character assisinate anyone who opposes his way of the world.

Sound familiar?
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It does. It sounds like reading one of your posts on any subject matter anytime you can't win with your ill constructed opinion that you assume to be fact.
 
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scubasteve

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #429
@Sick Boy So the bloke who jumped on top to protect the person being punched and stamped on the floor, is he a Nazi, an apologist, sympathise with Nazis or a white supremacist?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #430
Sick Boy said:
Hardly, I don't indulge in violence. Shockingly enough though, I think Nazis are vile scumbags who should be challenged at every turn and history had taught us that we should never let our guard down.
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If there's one thing that you would have thought the whole world would have learned to do last century and never to be forgotten it would be to challenge nazist behaviour at any level to nip it in the bud before it takes a foothold.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #431
Sick Boy said:
Or are you discussing yourself trying to portay me ad supporter of antifa for not liking Nazis?
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No I'm just commenting on your behaviour.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #432
scubasteve said:
@Sick Boy So the bloke who jumped on top to protect the person being punched and stamped on the floor, is he a Nazi, an apologist, sympathise with Nazis or a white supremacist?
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Surely you can see the difference between defending someone from physical violence on the street and defending their far right opinions on social media?
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #433
scubasteve said:
@Sick Boy So the bloke who jumped on top to protect the person being punched and stamped on the floor, is he a Nazi, an apologist, sympathise with Nazis or a white supremacist?
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First I'd ask yourself why we have people on here deflecting the blame away from people who got tooled up with semi-automatic weapons and pepper spray and then drove a car into people in an ISIS style attack.
 
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scubasteve

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #434
skybluetony176 said:
Surely you can see the difference between defending someone from physical violence on the street and defending their far right opinions on social media?
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who has far right views on here? I see some calling people apologist and sticking up for Nazis for condemning violence like the person in the video.
 
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scubasteve

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #435
Sick Boy said:
First I'd ask yourself why we have people on here deflecting the blame away from people who got tooled up with semi-automatic weapons and pepper spray and then drove a car into people in an ISIS style attack.
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no one is deflecting blame, you are calling people apologists and sticking for Nazis, because people are just against the violence in the video. Now is the person in the video who protected the person being attack on the floor sticking up for Nazis?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #436
scubasteve said:
no one is deflecting blame, you are calling people apologists and sticking for Nazis, because people are just against the violence in the video. Now is the person in the video who protected the person being attack on the floor sticking up for Nazis?
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I'd say describing antifa as more aggressive, despite the fact that they were provoked didn't drive a car into anyone is kind of deflecting. Wouldn't you?
 
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scubasteve

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #437
Sick Boy said:
I'd say describing antifa as more aggressive, despite the fact that they were provoked didn't drive a car into anyone is kind of deflecting. Wouldn't you?
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The only one deflecting here is you. You said anyone who is against the violence is sticking up for Nazis and a apologist, that's what you called me. so by your definition the man who jumped on top to protect a human being is sticking up for Nazis.
I know its hard to understand but just because people don't like or justify violence, unlike you. It doesn't mean they like Nazis or have any opinion that agrees with Nazis or supports Nazis.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #438
scubasteve said:
The only one deflecting here is you. You said anyone who is against the violence is sticking up for Nazis and a apologist, that's what you called me. so by your definition the man who jumped on top to protect a human being is sticking up for Nazis.
I know its hard to understand but just because people don't like or justify violence, unlike you. It doesn't mean they like Nazis or have any opinion that agrees with Nazis or supports Nazis.
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I don't like or justify violence, but groups of people who drive cars into others shouldn't be tolerated.
 
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scubasteve

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #439
Sick Boy said:
I don't like or justify violence, but groups of people who drive cars into others shouldn't be tolerated.
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your right people who drive cars into people shouldn't be tolerated, but haven't seen anyone here say it should so what's you point?

and you did justify violence as just earlier you said they deserve all they get, and then just called everyone a apologist and sticking for Nazis again showing your justification for the violence as anyone who is not ok with it must support Nazis.

im going to enjoy my bank holiday now, have a nice day.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #440
scubasteve said:
your right people who drive cars into people shouldn't be tolerated, but haven't seen anyone here say it should so what's you point?

and you did justify violence as just earlier you said they deserve all they get, and then just called everyone a apologist and sticking for Nazis again showing you justification for the violence as anyone who is not ok with it must support Nazis.

im going to enjoy my bank holiday now, have a nice day.
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So, why can't you just say the Nazis were responsible for the violence and a death without going on about the Antifa? The Nazis were the ones who organized the protest/ demonstration of force because they feel emboldened by Trump. Their member killed someone. Trump should have condemned them unequivocally. He is the leader of a democracy which fought against Nazism. He refused to solely condemn the anti democrats. The rest is not relevant. But we get "yes but....". There is no "yes but..." for the president of the USA.
 
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SIR ERNIE

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #441
Sick Boy said:
Your idol Farage?
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Actually much more akin to your idols; Comrades Corbyn and McDonnell.

Not forgetting of course your two poster girls Abbott and Thornberry.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #442
Grendel said:
The only extemists and supporters of violence and anti democratic behaviour and you and Sick Boy.

The sad thing is you can't see it.
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No. The Nazis are anti democratic and we are against that. We have a right to speak out against Brexit and we make full use of that. You won't condemn the Nazis unequivocally and are with the "get over it remoaners" crowd on here.

You are the one who can't see it.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #443
scubasteve said:
who has far right views on here? I see some calling people apologist and sticking up for Nazis for condemning violence like the person in the video.
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Don't think I've accused anyone on here of having far right views have I?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #444
SIR ERNIE said:
Actually much more akin to your idols; Comrades Corbyn and McDonnell.

Not forgetting of course your two poster girls Abbott and Thornberry.
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How on earth are either of them my idols? I have spoken out against Corbyn on here numerous times. Even so, he still far more preferable to the likes of May.

I have great respect for what Abbot has achieved though, particularly in her younger days.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #445
Captain Dart said:
That was a different incident. Still nastiness on both sides there, but the Antifa are far more aggressive even though they were provoked.
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Its clearly the same street corner! Interesting though that you selected that single tweet from the posters coverage of the day.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #446
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #447
martcov said:
Democracy allows different options and the right to peaceful protest. Pity you don't understand that.
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Oh I definitely do. Go protest in the right place though & stop your tedious bleating on almost every thread would be my best advice

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SkyblueBazza

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  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #448
Sick Boy said:
I forget that Nazis are lovers of democracy and equality. I'm sure the majority protesting either celebrate the holocaust or seeing it as a massive hoax. Fair enough if you are an apologist for these people.
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If it wasn't for democracy you probably wouldn't be able to hang on their every word as they wouldn't have a voice...but they would still be there

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SkyblueBazza

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  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #449
skybluetony176 said:
If there's one thing that you would have thought the whole world would have learned to do last century and never to be forgotten it would be to challenge nazist behaviour at any level to nip it in the bud before it takes a foothold.
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So behaving like a stereotypical Nazi to prevent the Nazis having the opportunity to voice their (agreed vile & abhorrent) opinions is okay?

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martcov

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  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #450
SkyblueBazza said:
Oh I definitely do. Go protest in the right place though & stop your tedious bleating on almost every thread would be my best advice

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Tedious bleating is a strange way to describe someone having a different opinion. We have an EU thread and some others have drifted on to the subject by blaming things on the EU, which explains how the subject comes up. 'Almost every thread' is more than a slight exaggeration, but you seem to like deflecting...
 

SIR ERNIE

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #451
chiefdave said:
Makes me laugh when those in favour of leaving shout about democracy and the will of the people but get upset at the suggestion of a vote when we actually know what leaving will involve.
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Perhaps that's because they've thought through the inevitable consequence of announcing that there will be a second referendum.

It seems as though you and your 'like' friends haven't
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #452
SkyblueBazza said:
So behaving like a stereotypical Nazi to prevent the Nazis having the opportunity to voice their (agreed vile & abhorrent) opinions is okay?

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How is challenging bigots the same as believing in racial superiority and genocide?
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #453
chiefdave said:
Its clearly the same street corner! Interesting though that you selected that single tweet from the posters coverage of the day.
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You're still trying to defend Antifa?

The delusion continues.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #454
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
You're still trying to defend Antifa?

The delusion continues.
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No, all I did was post some tweets from the same chap you quoted to 'prove' antifa are as bad as nazi white supremisists.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 28, 2017
  • #455
SIR ERNIE said:
Perhaps that's because they've thought through the inevitable consequence of announcing that there will be a second referendum.
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I think the more likely reason is concern the result won't be the one they want.

Been several times on various topics on here the suggestion has been made that democracy should be suspended when there's a danger of not getting the 'correct' result.
 
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