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cloughie

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 23, 2013
  • #71
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It's got to the stage where the post match show didn't concentrate on the fecking game. Linnell should get a bloody grip and realise he is well out of his depth on the ACL situation and stick to talking about football, which he knows not much more about.
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Linnell did seem a lap or 2 behind the pace and sucking up to fletcher who was embarrassing
 

CJparker

New Member
  • Mar 23, 2013
  • #72
Just got home from Pompey - feeling very depressed, in line with the general subdued atmosphere amongst the City fans. I cannot believe what SISU are doing - they should have backed down long ago.

I do not have a news/SBT app for my phone, so have been off the grid today as far as "the saga" goes...what are today's gruesome headlines??
 
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jagman

Member
  • Mar 23, 2013
  • #73
It appears to me that SISU have no intention of leaving our club anytime soon without a fight so what about selling them the Ricoh ? I know people will be up in arms about even the thought of it but a football club needs to own its own ground with all the income streams that are involved and like it or not SISU own CCFC. With SISU owning the club lock stock and barrel they would be in a position to invest in the one the thing we all want the TEAM. When SISU bought CCFC they did not do it out of charity they wanted to realise a profit in the future when the team went back to the Premiereship.They cocked it up bigtime.It is now obvious that that this will not happen without some drastic action. SISU have not aquitted themselves well in all of this sorry saga but if that is what it takes for them to invest in the team then so be it. When and if we return to the promised land of the premiership they will sell and we will be rid of them once and for all.
I put this idea forward knowing it will never come to fruition as there is to much bad blood between ACL and SISU for it to stand a chance.
I await your replies and insults with interrest.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 23, 2013
  • #74
Trouble is, there is a complete distrust of Sisu.

If you heard PWKH on the radio earlier he said pretty much that he could not believe the way Sisu go about their business dealings and the way they renege on promises etc.

Seems ACL/Council really do not trust Sisu one little bit and I can't see that changing anytime soon.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 23, 2013
  • #75
Otis said:
Trouble is, there is a complete distrust of Sisu.

If you heard PWKH on the radio earlier he said pretty much that he could not believe the way Sisu go about their business dealings and the way they renege on promises etc.

Seems ACL/Council really do not trust Sisu one little bit and I can't see that changing anytime soon.
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Reading through ACL's answers to the Trust they make repeated reference on the club agreeing to terms then reneging on them later for no apparent reason.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 23, 2013
  • #76
Tonylinc said:
OK; sorry my mistake. But I do think that the station do a reasonable job at least trying to get to the truth.....not easy when you are dealing with a company such as Sisu.
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Really? I have always been under the impression that Linnell wanted to ask Fisher difficult questions, only couldn't ever quite manage it, what with having his cock in his mouth...
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #77
Nonleagueherewecome said:
Really? I have always been under the impression that Linnell wanted to ask Fisher difficult questions, only couldn't ever quite manage it, what with having his cock in his mouth...
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What an immature comment..


















Genius though!
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #78
Think he said something along the lines of them talking almost as if there was no meeting at all.

Am guessing here bu I wonder if someone such as Fisher went, it was agreed, as stated, but then upon being reported to Sisu HQ and Joy Seppala the 'agreement' got shot down in flames.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #79
Nick said:
What an immature comment..


















Genius though!
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Thank you very much. I've only just woken up to see the train-wreck of a cricket scoreboard so expect similar witticisms as we stumble to defeat over the next day or so.

We need a "roll's eyes" smiley, btw!
 
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jagman

Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #80
Otis said:
Trouble is, there is a complete distrust of Sisu.

If you heard PWKH on the radio earlier he said pretty much that he could not believe the way Sisu go about their business dealings and the way they renege on promises etc.

Seems ACL/Council really do not trust Sisu one little bit and I can't see that changing anytime soon.
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I did hear PWKH on CWR and thought he seemed very resonable but like you said there is complete distrust between them.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #81
Otis said:
Think he said something along the lines of them talking almost as if there was no meeting at all.

Am guessing here bu I wonder if someone such as Fisher went, it was agreed, as stated, but then upon being reported to Sisu HQ and Joy Seppala the 'agreement' got shot down in flames.
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That and "you agree everything and shake hands only to discover that they've reneged on the agreement". And that as far as the Higgs negotiations, the style was "pressure, pressure, pressure, pressure". Standard SISU operating procedure, I'm sure...the companies working culture seems to be seeped in all that is good & noble about Private Equity!
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #82
Nonleagueherewecome said:
Thank you very much. I've only just woken up to see the train-wreck of a cricket scoreboard so expect similar witticisms as we stumble to defeat over the next day or so.

We need a "roll's eyes" smiley, btw!
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32 runs in 2 hours and 3 wickets - the dullest session I have ever seen.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #83
Grendel said:
32 runs in 2 hours and 3 wickets - the dullest session I have ever seen.
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The rest of the game has to just be about survival. So, we can all relate to that!
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #84
Otis said:
Think he said something along the lines of them talking almost as if there was no meeting at all.

Am guessing here bu I wonder if someone such as Fisher went, it was agreed, as stated, but then upon being reported to Sisu HQ and Joy Seppala the 'agreement' got shot down in flames.
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Thats an opinion that has been expressed from some fans and obviously ACL have intrduced that view.
A little interesting speculation on the coach down to the match today centered on TF .
his company Calimere Point specialise in turning round failling operations ,to then be sold on.His role at Charlton was the same where ultimately,he saw it though with a management buyout.
The interesting theory today was tha tmaybe its him who's the stumbling block.He is apparently a very wealthy chap,he obviously set up the ARVO operation,but what if from there on it has been his investmment or in part at least. is that to out there??
 
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WFC

New Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #85
jagman said:
It appears to me that SISU have no intention of leaving our club anytime soon without a fight so what about selling them the Ricoh ? I know people will be up in arms about even the thought of it but a football club needs to own its own ground with all the income streams that are involved and like it or not SISU own CCFC. With SISU owning the club lock stock and barrel they would be in a position to invest in the one the thing we all want the TEAM. When SISU bought CCFC they did not do it out of charity they wanted to realise a profit in the future when the team went back to the Premiereship.They cocked it up bigtime.It is now obvious that that this will not happen without some drastic action. SISU have not aquitted themselves well in all of this sorry saga but if that is what it takes for them to invest in the team then so be it. When and if we return to the promised land of the premiership they will sell and we will be rid of them once and for all.
I put this idea forward knowing it will never come to fruition as there is to much bad blood between ACL and SISU for it to stand a chance.
I await your replies and insults with interrest.
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If you put something with value together with something that looses money do you make the lose making operation more attractive or do you make the thing of value less attractive when trying to sell to re-coupe investment/make a return?

If your primary concern is bringing in new investment to turn around the lose making operation whilst giving you an exist strategy you may do that. If your primary concern is maximising return better to simply strip out the lose making leaving an even more attractive and valuable asset.

Worth researching event driven investment strategies by hedge funds.

Best of lucky guys and be careful out there, it's a jungle.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #86
It wasn't long ago that those who are now slating Linnell were agreeing with his opinions...
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #87
Sick Boy said:
It wasn't long ago that those who are now slating Linnell were agreeing with his opinions...
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About thorn?
 

coundonskyblue

New Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #88
I met linnell as a kid and got a tour of the mercia studios off him.

Whilst I don't agree with his 'apparent' pro sisu stance, the man is still a ccfc fan. As are all of us on here, and I prey for the day that we are all once united again.

The divide between the fans is what breaks my heart the most as we make the club.

This club means so much to so many people, im sure that includes linnel.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #89
Sick Boy said:
It wasn't long ago that those who are now slating Linnell were agreeing with his opinions...
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Nah once these people change opinion just to win an argument the original opinion doesn't count.

Remember any apart from Thorn would have kept us up last season. However at the same time it was statistically inevitable we were going down last season.

If you think that these two comments were from the same person...........
 

coundonskyblue

New Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #90
WFC said:
If you put something with value together with something that looses money do you make the lose making operation more attractive or do you make the thing of value less attractive when trying to sell to re-coupe investment/make a return?

If your primary concern is bringing in new investment to turn around the lose making operation whilst giving you an exist strategy you may do that. If your primary concern is maximising return better to simply strip out the lose making leaving an even more attractive and valuable asset.

Worth researching event driven investment strategies by hedge funds.

Best of lucky guys and be careful out there, it's a jungle.
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Walsall fan talks the most sense out of anyone on here.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #91
dongonzalos said:
Nah once these people change opinion just to win an argument the original opinion doesn't count.

Remember any manager who was not previously a scout would have kept us up last season. However at the same time it was statistically inevitable we were going down last season.

If you think that these two comments were from the same person...........
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Tells you all you need to know about the validity of this person's opinion
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #92
Yam yam knows more than many

If you put something with value together with something that looses money do you make the lose making operation more attractive or do you make the thing of value less attractive when trying to sell to re-coupe investment/make a return?

If your primary concern is bringing in new investment to turn around the lose making operation whilst giving you an exist strategy you may do that. If your primary concern is maximising return better to simply strip out the lose making leaving an even more attractive and valuable asset.

Worth researching event driven investment strategies by hedge funds.

Best of lucky guys and be careful out there, it's a jungle.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #93
Have a think about what he said, do your research then look at where you are standing on this one.
 
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Wm65

New Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #94
coundonskyblue said:
I met linnell as a kid and got a tour of the mercia studios off him.

Whilst I don't agree with his 'apparent' pro sisu stance, the man is still a ccfc fan. As are all of us on here, and I prey for the day that we are all once united again.

The divide between the fans is what breaks my heart the most as we make the club.

This club means so much to so many people, im sure that includes linnel.

#push.
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If linnell is a city fan now then he certainly wasnt for the first 30 years of his life - i think he has the club at heart through professional reasons .
Can you change from being a fan of another club ?
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #95
With a blood transfusion, yes.

Just ask Mark Robins.

He had Sky Blue blood and then had the transfusion.

He also went from born again Christian to Muslim, then back to born again Christian again, before converting to the Moonies.

He was a vegetarian and is now a carnivore and he's thrown all his death metal CD's away in a switch to country and western.


So, in answer to your question, yes, people can change.
 
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jagman

Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #96
WFC said:
If you put something with value together with something that looses money do you make the lose making operation more attractive or do you make the thing of value less attractive when trying to sell to re-coupe investment/make a return?

If your primary concern is bringing in new investment to turn around the lose making operation whilst giving you an exist strategy you may do that. If your primary concern is maximising return better to simply strip out the lose making leaving an even more attractive and valuable asset.

Worth researching event driven investment strategies by hedge funds.

Best of lucky guys and be careful out there, it's a jungle.
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While i agree with your summation in the case of any other business a football is not like that. A CCFC that does not own its own ground is going nowhere apart from out of business, the Ricoh without a football club will go the same way, the two go together. The Ricoh will not survive with a few exhibitions and a couple of pop concerts a year. The sooner this infighting between SISU and ACL is resolved the sooner we can do what we all want and that is get back to the premiership.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #97
Sick Boy said:
It wasn't long ago that those who are now slating Linnell were agreeing with his opinions...
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It wasn't long ago that those who are now agreeing with Linnell's opinions were slating him......
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 24, 2013
  • #98
Wm65 said:
If linnell is a city fan now then he certainly wasnt for the first 30 years of his life - i think he has the club at heart through professional reasons .
Can you change from being a fan of another club ?
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Alan Poole, the main sports Editor at the CET is from Leicester, yet gives his "Opinion" on CCFC almost every day. A DJ on Capitol Radio down in South Wales "Kam Kelly" used to be on a Coventry Radio Station a number of years ago supporting CCFC, you should hear him down in Cardiff Cheering Wales in the "Grand Slam" match.......
The gist is.........Whoever pays the Piper, calls the tune!:facepalm:
 
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