Don't forget, ACL are an £8m business, if which the football club represents less than 20%.
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They are the only four (assuming ACL is one) that I know of at the moment.
I can second that.i was there. Stuart. ..What's your view on how these forums went.i dont think fisher got any of his points accross.seems still being in administration is starting to annoy him
Stuart do you think that this is all a big bluff to drive up the amount that sisu can recoup, or do you really think they can go through with their plan
How much of that £8million business is down to food/drink/advertising/sponsorship associated with the football club?
Don't think that the apparent £125 million deal with Compass is based on a couple of concerts a year.
fecking hell PKWH, is that you?
Preferable to Sisu.
A rent they were able to get away with because CCFC was so badly run?
Thank you, but I haven't set out to change opinions of me. My concern has been to try and hear opinions, from all sides, of what the heck is happening to Coventry City Football Club.
What difference would it make if it were all owned by the same entity?
stu its not even 10.30 yetRight chaps - way past my bedtime. I keep hoping I'll wake up and this has all been a ghastly nightmare, but that only happened to Bobby Ewing in Dallas, didn't it?
Goodnight all.
How much of that £8million business is down to food/drink/advertising/sponsorship associated with the football club?
Don't think that the apparent £125 million deal with Compass is based on a couple of concerts a year.
This is what you wanted changed your mind already? thought you'd be very happy:claping hands:A rent they got away with because back in 2005 they had us over a barrel thanks to the fuck-ups of Richardson et al.
It wouldn't, but a little disingenuous to use the "CCFC" only 20% of turnover" argument when they aren't.
One thing that a bid from ACL(if what Stuart Linnell's sources have said is true), may show is that they do need the club there, despite the cloud-cuckoo land talk of many of Rugby clubs moving in(from outside their town, the horror!), and year round outdoor concerts that will replace the club if isn't there.
£7.8m income
£1.2m from ccfc rent
£230-260k match day costs (£10k per match)
£1.0m match day F&B income (76%? - £760k)
= roughly £2.2m (28%)income that's before sponsorship etc.
This is what you wanted changed your mind already? thought you'd be very happy:claping hands:
Again, look at the context in which I made the comment
I used the word only, not to diminish the club's role within ACL's finances; to to highlight the vast balance that sits outside of the club's clutches that would be appropriate to turnover - and therefore FFP - of a body controlling all. In that context, I'm sure you can so nothing but agree with me?
Yes you said it on terms of FFP. Just can't see how they can afford to buy it and they would struggle with running costs.
You may have done so in this case, and obviously it would work for FFP, whether club owning Ricoh/ACL or vice-versa, but the same argument has been used many times to belittle the impact that the club does have overall on ACL profitablity(or otherwise).
I believe it was you who mooted Northampton moving in to the Ricoh previously? Many others have suggested that without the club they could make more money having huge open-air concerts year round without the football to get in the way.
Both arguments flawed in the extreme.
That would be catastrophic how the hell is that "good news"
Didnt you want the club and Acl together? Well you could have your wish. But its not as though though:guitar2:Fuck me! ACL, can't think of anything worse, unless they sell it on immediately to someone else.
To be fair, the man is presenting the breakfast show on Radio Northampton tomorrow. And hes getting on a bit.stu its not even 10.30 yet
So you think sisu would agree to this then?
I am sure that being in administration is annoying him. It is not a route he wanted to pursue, that much is clear. Whatever you think of his plans, administration has just caused confusion and delay, and may not deliver a change of ownership which, I realise, a lot of people want.
I think the forums have been a useful exercise in allowing people to very clearly express their passion and their opinions. I hope people will consider carefully what was said by Tim Fisher and Steve Brookfield before dismissing everything they said simply because it was them. Not saying anyone should necessarily agree with them, but just weigh it all up in a considered fashion.
Difficult, I know, when the future of the football club you love is at stake, but - much as we would all love to turn the clock back - only Dr Who can do that, and unfortunately he is not here to help.
£7.8m income
£1.2m from ccfc rent
£230-260k match day costs (£10k per match)
£1.0m match day F&B income (76%? - £760k)
= roughly £2.2m (28%)income that's before sponsorship etc.
What is omitted is that Compass have a 50/50 share in the running and therefore Turnover making £15.6M. turnover and clubs input is then 14%. maybe Compass can fund this operation .
Are you for real?
The greedy filth will set their own rent to new buyers. The club needs to be owned independently and ACL absorbed at no cost.
It's morons like you who bend over and demand more pain from the council who have helped create the mess.
If we were bought by ACL we would be liquidated in 6 months no question.
I thought compass only had 23-24% of the business, and that was only running events, conferences and f&b's?
Fuck me! ACL, can't think of anything worse, unless they sell it on immediately to someone else.
What difference does that make to your assertion that if ACL brought limited that there would be no question we'd be liquidated in 6 months? which was the statement I was saying was utterly ridiculous.
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