According to CWR, ACL has not yet given up. I understand they are contacting the Football League and taking advice.
We shouldn't give up either.
Any ideas what ACL might now do ?
Hopefully give up. Contacting the football league about what?
Hopefully give up. Contacting the football league about what?
Whatever they do I doubt it will work. SISU have out-maneuvered them at every turn, I see no reason to believe any future step will go any differently.
Whichever way you look at it, ACL's attempt to force the club into administration was an absolute disaster.
Whatever they do I doubt it will work. SISU have out-maneuvered them at every turn, I see no reason to believe any future step will go any differently.
Whichever way you look at it, ACL's attempt to force the club into administration was an absolute disaster.
Whatever they do I doubt it will work. SISU have out-maneuvered them at every turn, I see no reason to believe any future step will go any differently.
Whichever way you look at it, ACL's attempt to force the club into administration was an absolute disaster.
Why would you want them to give up?
Er because I want them to concede defeat and continue supporting the club at the Ricoh?
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Surely at this stage the best way to ensure that is to stop sisu getting back the golden share?
Er because I want them to concede defeat and continue supporting the club at the Ricoh?
Arsehole.
Hopefully give up so that your precious SISU can carry on? You're weird.
Hopefully give up. Contacting the football league about what?
Surely you mean our precious football club? Who cares about SISU, or ACL for that matter.
What is weird is the sense of loyalty people feel toward a completely separate 3rd party corporate entity like ACL. It is very odd. Somebody on here once said they sided with ACL in the dispute because SISU had a 'moral and legal obligation to pay them'. Well, Pompey had a legal and moral obligation to pay the taxman but I didn't see many Pompey fans siding with HMRC and urging them to force the club they supported out of business. That would be ludicrous wouldn't it? Only at Coventry City would that happen. And it did.
The most baffling part of this whole sorry shitfest was how so many sided with ACL during the rent dispute - perhaps if we'd been a bit more united at that point we'd be looking forward to a season at the Ricoh, and on much better financial terms.
Even now people are urging ACL to go after the club. Unbelievable. Here's an idea, why don't we suggest they TALK to SISU and we can get back to being a normal football club? Perhaps then somebody might actually think about trying to fucking buy it eh?
But no, let's destabalise the club even further. Fuck-wits.
Surely you mean our precious football club? Who cares about SISU, or ACL for that matter.
What is weird is the sense of loyalty people feel toward a completely separate 3rd party corporate entity like ACL. It is very odd. Somebody on here once said they sided with ACL in the dispute because SISU had a 'moral and legal obligation to pay them'. Well, Pompey had a legal and moral obligation to pay the taxman but I didn't see many Pompey fans siding with HMRC and urging them to force the club they supported out of business. That would be ludicrous wouldn't it? Only at Coventry City would that happen. And it did.
The most baffling part of this whole sorry shitfest was how so many sided with ACL during the rent dispute - perhaps if we'd been a bit more united at that point we'd be looking forward to a season at the Ricoh, and on much better financial terms.
Even now people are urging ACL to go after the club. Unbelievable. Here's an idea, why don't we suggest they TALK to SISU and we can get back to being a normal football club? Perhaps then somebody might actually think about trying to fucking buy it eh?
But no, let's destabalise the club even further. Fuck-wits.
Hopefully give up. Contacting the football league about what?
Heard your arguments before , see we're your coming from but how do you explain that most high profile city supporters , most independent football reporters and the vast majority of ccfc supporters think that sisu have behaved disgustingly and we would be better off without them.Surely you mean our precious football club? Who cares about SISU, or ACL for that matter.
What is weird is the sense of loyalty people feel toward a completely separate 3rd party corporate entity like ACL. It is very odd. Somebody on here once said they sided with ACL in the dispute because SISU had a 'moral and legal obligation to pay them'. Well, Pompey had a legal and moral obligation to pay the taxman but I didn't see many Pompey fans siding with HMRC and urging them to force the club they supported out of business. That would be ludicrous wouldn't it? Only at Coventry City would that happen. And it did.
The most baffling part of this whole sorry shitfest was how so many sided with ACL during the rent dispute - perhaps if we'd been a bit more united at that point we'd be looking forward to a season at the Ricoh, and on much better financial terms.
Even now people are urging ACL to go after the club. Unbelievable. Here's an idea, why don't we suggest they TALK to SISU and we can get back to being a normal football club? Perhaps then somebody might actually think about trying to fecking buy it eh?
But no, let's destabalise the club even further. feck-wits.
Just because your pea-brain doesn't understand it, it doesn't mean that it isn't a common sense viewpoint. Fuckwit.
What is weird is the sense of loyalty people feel toward a completely separate 3rd party corporate entity like ACL. It is very odd
Heard your arguments before , see we're your coming from but how do you explain that most high profile city supporters , most independent football reporters and the vast majority of ccfc supporters think that sisu have behaved disgustingly and we would be better off without them.
Surely you mean our precious football club? Who cares about SISU, or ACL for that matter.
What is weird is the sense of loyalty people feel toward a completely separate 3rd party corporate entity like ACL. It is very odd. Somebody on here once said they sided with ACL in the dispute because SISU had a 'moral and legal obligation to pay them'. Well, Pompey had a legal and moral obligation to pay the taxman but I didn't see many Pompey fans siding with HMRC and urging them to force the club they supported out of business. That would be ludicrous wouldn't it? Only at Coventry City would that happen. And it did.
The most baffling part of this whole sorry shitfest was how so many sided with ACL during the rent dispute - perhaps if we'd been a bit more united at that point we'd be looking forward to a season at the Ricoh, and on much better financial terms.
Even now people are urging ACL to go after the club. Unbelievable. Here's an idea, why don't we suggest they TALK to SISU and we can get back to being a normal football club? Perhaps then somebody might actually think about trying to fucking buy it eh?
But no, let's destabalise the club even further. Fuck-wits.
Just more name calling with no attempt to actually answer the points.
Yes, because what we really need at this point is more legal action - those lawyers haven't earnt enough out of this have they? That's the common sense viewpoint - more conflict and confusion?
An idea, we draw a line under it, and get back around the table to thrash out a new deal, even if for one season. Then as supporters, we can continue to pressure SISU to sell, and for some that might be 'not one penny more', for others it might take another form. That's a sensible 'common sense' position where the emphasis is on a short term fix to ensure the club stay in the city with the long term aim of getting SISU out.
But no, we want to go back to court! We haven't had nearly enough of all that yet!
Yep, a fuckwit.
What is weird is that some people seem to forget who stepped in and built the stadium. Without that, the club would have gone into liquidation years ago.
Let me try and be civil about this and not use emotive "fuck-wit" comments which are uncalled for and inurbane.
What I do not understand is you and those few that share your views is how you so quickly and easily forget how come ACL even exists, and why it is 50% council owned.
Have you really already forgotten how Richardson, Micginnity and the other prior owners over the last two or three decades had driven the club to the very edge of financial ruin, had sold off and somehow managed to make disappear the proceeds of selling Highfield Road, had come up with a crazy moving-pitch, moving-roof giant of a stadium to replace it that continuously got downsized as the money ran out until eventually they had no money at all to build the stadium and were homeless and close to going out of existence? Do you remember that the council and the charity came in and saved the club, built the stadium and let us play in it for the absolute minimum cost they could afford to service the debt that they had taken up on behalf of our club. Have you already forgotten all of this in so short a time that you perceive ACL as a completely unrelated third party?
I and many others do not feel a "sense of loyalty" towards ACL, but perhaps there is a justifiable sense of gratitude towards ACL, Higgs and the council for saving our sorry arses when we are at rock bottom, and we don't like to see the kind of "thanks" that SISU/Fisher and fans who think like you give to them.
From our side of the equation, we cannot fathom how you can stand there and see the people who saved our club from the dreadful actions of the prior owners be abused and cheated by a hedge fund.
From our side, we cannot see how you could possibly support a lying and cheating hedge fund over the people who saved our club.
That you can even think of supporting SISU/Fisher over the people who have helped save our club is beyond the ken of many of us.
YOU called me a fuck-wit: if you are going to take that approach, don't be surprised when people respond in kind. You fat handed twat
You may have "given up", you may not hate SISU as much as you do ACL, but on that we'll beg to differ.
No I didn't, I said 'fuckwits' (note: plural) in response to a post by somebody else (note: not you) who had labelled somebody else an arsehole.
So no personal insults were aimed at you at all before your little rant. Funny how the same people who have freely used the words 'areshole' and 'bellend' in this thread get all girly when someone issues an insult in return - even a rhetorical one.
My views matched those of peoples who you labelled fuckwits: I'm a fuckwit by proxy, which is enough for me to fling it back. You are the one who got all precious after dishing it out.
If you want to take personal offence to an insult aimed at a notional group of people who share a particular viewpoint then fine. I say grow a pair.
That's a very narrow perspective of what really happened if I may say so. You act as if the council did not benefit from all of that? Others gave up a lot of money, negotiated contracts with the likes of Tesco and so it goes on and on... far more to it than that narrow view I'm afraid and too much for me to be arsed to go over it all yet again. Go research again with a more open mind.
+1 to that, the charity didn't have to step in and bail us out just like they didn't have to build the Alan Higgs Centre to the very high standard it is, for our Academy. The fact that they did probably wasn't the best move for them given what's happened now but it did give the club a lifeline, which SISU have been trying to cut through. I wonder if they should have just left us to go into Admin the first time around.Let me try and be civil about this and not use emotive "fuck-wit" comments which are uncalled for and inurbane.
What I do not understand is you and those few that share your views is how you so quickly and easily forget how come ACL even exists, and why it is 50% council owned.
Have you really already forgotten how Richardson, Micginnity and the other prior owners over the last two or three decades had driven the club to the very edge of financial ruin, had sold off and somehow managed to make disappear the proceeds of selling Highfield Road, had come up with a crazy moving-pitch, moving-roof giant of a stadium to replace it that continuously got downsized as the money ran out until eventually they had no money at all to build the stadium and were homeless and close to going out of existence? Do you remember that the council and the charity came in and saved the club, built the stadium and let us play in it for the absolute minimum cost they could afford to service the debt that they had taken up on behalf of our club. Have you already forgotten all of this in so short a time that you perceive ACL as a completely unrelated third party?
I and many others do not feel a "sense of loyalty" towards ACL, but perhaps there is a justifiable sense of gratitude towards ACL, Higgs and the council for saving our sorry arses when we are at rock bottom, and we don't like to see the kind of "thanks" that SISU/Fisher and fans who think like you give to them.
From our side of the equation, we cannot fathom how you can stand there and see the people who saved our club from the dreadful actions of the prior owners be abused and cheated by a hedge fund.
From our side, we cannot see how you could possibly support a lying and cheating hedge fund over the people who saved our club.
That you can even think of supporting SISU/Fisher over the people who have helped save our club is beyond the ken of many of us.
That's a very narrow perspective of what really happened if I may say so. You act as if the council did not benefit from all of that? Others gave up a lot of money, negotiated contracts with the likes of Tesco and so it goes on and on... far more to it than that narrow view I'm afraid and too much for me to be arsed to go over it all yet again. Go research again with a more open mind.
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