Not what I asked-at the moment there is nobody else waiting with tens of millions of pounds ready to swoop and take the club off SISU. Their departure would lead to the club folding and needing to reform at a much, much lower level. This is not 'palatable' to me and I'm sure many other fans here.
Wot your mental age?imp:
Well we won't know about new investors until SISU leave.
For someone desperate for SISU to leave, you are being rather squeamish about supporting moves to make it happen.
Let's face it, there are no easy answers - but you said yourself how few clubs ever go bust, that makes me think that whatever happens CCFC will live on without SISU, hence my confidence
I'm squeamish about moves which will directly jeapordise the club's survival.
Me too...but surely the record of clubs (not) going to the wall gives you confidence all will be well in the end?
I'm squeamish about moves which will directly jeapordise the club's survival.
It's not worth the risk, I don't think. Hoping isn't good enough.
It's not worth the risk, I don't think. Hoping isn't good enough.
There have been something like 50 administrations of football clubs since the last one in 1994, so the risk doesn't seem so bad to me
Of all the clubs sent to administration since points deductions came into force only 3 have improved their status. Four ceased to exist.
Of all the clubs sent to administration since points deductions came into force only 3 have improved their status. Four ceased to exist.
How do you define improve? Because I can think of loads.
By the way, I hope we go into administration and very much hope we cease to exist - so please don't start misquoting me agian
I think it is a lot more than 3 - but either way, people should not go for the scare story of "no SISU = no CCFC" - just another excuse you are peddling to get people to lay off SISU
Im going to help you out here Grendel and hazzard a guess on how the original arrangement for rent arrived !!!
Think back new stadium with a mortgage that had to be paid. The annual payments for the mortgage came to 1.2million. So that is possibly how that figure arrived. You have to remember ACL were a new venture which hadn't tapped into the other income streams yet and had no trading history.
I may be way off the mark and like i say its a guess.
Me too...but surely the record of clubs (not) going to the wall gives you confidence all will be well in the end?
Yeah, that's how I figured it & I'm sure posted that idea in the past a long time ago. Its not rocket science is it!
SBT - as I have pointed out previously ACL have offered CCFC their share of the profits of the match day f&b profits from the joint venture IEC for free. Their share is 80% and is valued at around £100k. They have also offered to cross invoice the revenue to CCFC to help their FFP calculations. Fail to see how much extra the club wants. Also under the proposed deal the club would receive 900 car park spaces for free - revenue worth around £150k. So thats £250k for free and help with FFP - hardly the actions of an organisation that doesn't care about the football club.
I presume the other 20% must belong to Compass & therefore not in the gift of ACL, its only about 20K anyway, whats that 1 to 2 months for the top earner or 1 player for 4 months at an average League One salary!But that isn't what others were proposing though was it? CCFC should have 100% f+b revenues (your post appears to have it at 80%?) for free.
I don't have any masters - I am everybody's equal (not in the George Orwell sense)
I think it is a lot more than 3 - but either way, people should not go for the scare story of "no SISU = no CCFC" - just another excuse you are peddling to get people to lay off SISU
Charlton 1984
Middlesbrough 1986
Tranmere 1987
Newport County 1989
Walsall 1990
Northampton 1992
Kettering 1992
Aldershot 1992
Maidstone 1992
Hartlepool 1994
Barnet 1994
Exeter 1994, 2003
Gillingham 1995
Doncaster 1997
Millwall 1997
Bournemouth 1997, 2008
Darlington 1997, 2009
Chester 1998, 2009
Hereford 1998
Portsmouth 1999, 2010
Crystal Palace 1999, 2010
Oxford Utd 1999
Barrow 1999
Swindon 2000, 2002
Scarborough 2000
Hull 2001
QPR 2001
Chesterfield 2001
Leicester 2002
Barnsley 2002
Carlisle 2002
Notts County 2002
Bury 2002
Bradford 2002
Port Vale 2002
Lincoln City 2002
Swansea City 2002
York 2002
Halifax Town 2002, 2008
Derby 2003
Ipswich 2003
Huddersfield 2003
Oldham 2003
MK Dons 2003
Wimbledon 2003
Wrexham 2004
Cambridge 2005
Crawley Town 2006
Rotherham 2006, 2008
Leeds United 2007
Boston United 2007
Southampton 2008
Luton 2008
Stockport 2009
Salisbury 2009
Swansea's administration in 2002 while in division three has slipped Grendel's mind, where are they nowdays, mmmmmm let me see, langushing in the middle of that poxy Premiership & winning cup finals.
Likewise Middlesbrough (1986), Ipswich(2002) & Charlton (1984) who are in situations as good as or better now as when they went into admin, in the interim years all 3 clubs spent time in the Premiership before slipping back. Mr G somehow doesn't count periods of higher league position between admin & today, as relevant to the argument... personally I would do so..
Funny I could have sworn he had a magnificent memory, not very good at fact finding though.
Anyway, argument disproved & I have barely started on the long list...
That list is a bit 50 50 in terms of better or worse off than us.
Considering we have never gone into admin!
The list is not relevant. We need to look at the impact post 2004 when points penalties came into force in addition to other restrictions on coming out of administration.
It was deliberately designed to stop clubs just wiping debts and starting again the next day. The Leicester debacle was the tipping point.
So I repeat since that introduction one club has improved its league status the majority have seen significant decline.
The list is not relevant. We need to look at the impact post 2004 when points penalties came into force in addition to other restrictions on coming out of administration.
It was deliberately designed to stop clubs just wiping debts and starting again the next day. The Leicester debacle was the tipping point.
So I repeat since that introduction one club has improved its league status the majority have seen significant decline.
There is an inherent belief amongst our support that administration = a takeover by a billionaire, promotions and success.
We are far more likely to go the opposite directions and further slip down the leagues.
There is a belief that carrying on as we are is OK, it is just kicking the can down the road, ignoring the cliff were're abut to fall over. Madness!
There is a belief that carrying on as we are is OK, it is just kicking the can down the road, ignoring the cliff were're abut to fall over. Madness!
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