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I see Eni Eluko has weighed into this having a go at Morgan (a person I don’t like) on Twitter but she is a vulgar little character and like Dianne Abbot only adds to the problems.
I see Eni Eluko has weighed into this having a go at Morgan (a person I don’t like) on Twitter but she is a vulgar little character and like Dianne Abbot only adds to the problems.
Adds to the problems by speaking out against things that have actually happened to them? How fucking dare they.
She adds to the problem by the language she uses she is publicity hungry, I think Steeling has handled this really well he could have easily jumped into the crowd. I don’t get why people dislike him so much he makes mistakes just like any other young person of any colour or race but seems to get more stick even more than other black players.
People like Aluko and Abbott add to the divide and seem to thrive on it.
There was a chap talking about this on 5Live or Talksport yesterday. No idea who it was just caught a bit of it in the car.Why is Foden a Saint for buying his parents a house and Sterling a greedy show off for buying his mum a house? What's the difference between Foden and Sterling?
My cousins son (second cousin?) is a relatively high profile dutch player who now plays in Italy and he's got a huge team of PR people etc. Running his Instagram, twitter and all that lark.There was a chap talking about this on 5Live or Talksport yesterday. No idea who it was just caught a bit of it in the car.
He reckons the problem is the people around the players. He said as a general rule of thumb black players have an entourage around them who are in it for what they can get. Basically people who befriend the player and enjoy spending his money in clubs and expensive shops. Then at the end of his career they disappear and the player is left with nothing or at least far less than he should have.
That was compared to white players who generally have a team of professionals around them, PR advisors, financial advisors etc, who keep everything closely monitored and brief their client on their behaviour and what they should / shouldn't say in public but also have contacts in the media to get things reported the way they want.
They used the same example of Foden and said that story would have been placed with 'friendly' media so they got the story they wanted rather than just chancing it.
My cousins son (second cousin?).
My cousins son (second cousin?) is a relatively high profile dutch player who now plays in Italy and he's got a huge team of PR people etc. Running his Instagram, twitter and all that lark.
It's definitely needed.
Go on then.....Who is it?
Rai VloetGo on then.....Who is it?
I think you may have mentioned his dad firstJustin Kluivert.
I think you may have mentioned his dad firstHe'd definitely have been well schooled long before he made the first team.
Justin Kluivert.
So Patrick got with your mum's niece?
To be fair if I was Patrick Kluivert I'd have dipped it in half of Newcastle!So Patrick got with your mum's niece?
Dads side. Anyway, not on topic. Sorry.
They create a negative image of him. I don’t know anything about him but the perception is of a greedy figure - yet he’s no different than any other play.
Cashley Cole was another constantly receiving negative press. Cole was always one of the first at his clubs to volunteer for charity and community work and yet he was again tarnished with a negative image
As a contrast the greedy, grasping Beckham was given sainthood status
Thanks for a reasoned explanation unlike some of the half baked comments on here. I agree with this analysis although I would still say it falls far short of racism. The media had done the drip drip drip thing on his character but they've done the same with many others e.g. Heather Mills, Darren Day, Trump etc. It's a valid enough point and he doesn't need to claim racism on top of it. As far as I can see it isn't motivated by his skin colour.
just because the press carry out a character assassination on someone who is white doesn't mean their character assassination of someone who is black isn't racist.
It doesn't mean it is, either. Don't get me wrong, I am not defending anyone... just saying I can't see much wrong with what has been said about him. I have moaned about him during England gamds in the past when he didn't play well or when he didn't appear to care about the cause. He has been a frustrating player as his country form rarely matched his club form.
Yes plenty of fans made the same comments as me, but it was far from uniformly applied to black players, so can hardly be called racist.
I really don't understand how you can't see it after being supplied with the evidence.just saying I can't see much wrong with what has been said about him.
John Barnes was saying yesterday, clubs have clamped down and on the whole fans have behaved, but it's merely just a case of switching off for 90 mins.Seems like this particular Chelsea fan is a relic from bad old days at Chelsea. Be about the right age.
Remember us getting beat 6-2 there early 80s and they had a talented young black kid called Keith Jones in midfield. Was getting booed by a sizeable section of Chelsea fans in the stand to our left every time he touched the ball. Even booed him when he scored. He looked absolutely miserable
Maybe progress isn't enough but racism around football has improved considerably from the 70s and 80s. Back then was a lot more obvious and was a common sight to see the National Front openly selling their newspaper outside many grounds.
Did used to be a football fan theory the further north you went the more blatent the racism used to be.
In purely football terms all sides have had large numbers of black players and most supporters don't care about the player colour just the shirt colour. Maybe the problem is most stop thinking about it once they leave the ground.
Maybe I am just thick.I really don't understand how you can't see it after being supplied with the evidence.
Yup. It acts like a CCTV these days too.Saw earlier the bloke from the picture has lost his job, had his season ticket taken away and claims he was calling him a Manc c*nt.
Bit random, Sterling is from London isn't he?
Not too sure what people expect nowadays with social media, you act like a twat like that on the front row of a game that is broadcast to millions across the world it is going to be on social media within seconds.
I'm sure any speech and language expert will be easily able to identify the difference between this guy shouting 'black' and 'Manc'.Saw earlier the bloke from the picture has lost his job, had his season ticket taken away and claims he was calling him a Manc c*nt.
Bit random, Sterling is from London isn't he?
Not too sure what people expect nowadays with social media, you act like a twat like that on the front row of a game that is broadcast to millions across the world it is going to be on social media within seconds.
Saw earlier the bloke from the picture has lost his job, had his season ticket taken away and claims he was calling him a Manc c*nt.
Bit random, Sterling is from London isn't he?
Not too sure what people expect nowadays with social media, you act like a twat like that on the front row of a game that is broadcast to millions across the world it is going to be on social media within seconds.
No, true.Not comfortable worth the bloke losing his job over this as much as he seems a right horrible tosser.
Thing is, they can't have conducted a proper investigation into what happened.No, true.
Banned from Chelsea games I think would be more than sufficient.
A lot of firms do react to stuff that has been said by employees and appeared in social media though. Can only guess his employer doesn't want to be associated with employees like that, but yeah, rather harsh.
Yes, very true. Suspended pending further investigation would be the way to go for sure.Thing is, they can't have conducted a proper investigation into what happened.
I've seen people get investigated at work and the are suspended to start with and a thorough I investigation conducted. The process could take a couple of weeks.
Yes, very true. Suspended pending further investigation would be the way to go for sure.
A straight sacking is very severe.
If it is found that was said wasn't in fact racist, what then?
Let's hope it wasnt CAFAny idea where it was he worked?
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