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hill83

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  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #106
oucho said:
Eh? Without wanting to sound thick or uninformed, why is it "treating him poorly" to say he was tired at 3am? I'm tired at the time of night when I am still up, which happens once a week....no shame in it. How's that racist?
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Did you click the link where it shows 35 other stories about him? Nothing overtly racist (of course, national newspapers) but he’s targeted. You won’t find the direct evidence I assume you are wanting though.
 
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hill83

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  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #107
“But what about <insert another player here> hill83?”

Yep. But we are taking about Sterling.
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #108
oucho said:
Eh? Without wanting to sound thick or uninformed, why is it "treating him poorly" to say he was tired at 3am? I'm tired at the time of night when I am still up, which happens once a week....no shame in it. How's that racist?
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It's not racist but you are being a bit thick. It's alluding to when he pulled out of an England friendly camp for being tired but went to a party until 3am. If you read the thread of tweets there are loads of negative articles about Sterling mainly from the Sun and Mail. Interestingly Phil Foden bought his mum a new house and was lauded in the press for doing a great thing for his dear old ma. Sterling does the same thing and the news criticises him for being blingy and a show off or some shit like that.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #109
Off the racist topic for a minute but I thought the behaviour of some Cov fans yesterday was utterly shameful. I travel to half a dozen or so away matches every season but it's getting to the stage where I'm not enjoying it any more, and it's not down to what's on the pitch. Some idiots spend the whole 90 minutes abusing players and fellow supporters alike .
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #110
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Off the racist topic for a minute but I thought the behaviour of some Cov fans yesterday was utterly shameful. I travel to half a dozen or so away matches every season but it's getting to the stage where I'm not enjoying it any more, and it's not down to what's on the pitch. Some idiots spend the whole 90 minutes abusing players and fellow supporters alike .
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I liked the cup game.

Bloke by me dumped his mrs because she was going to watch spice girls and told her that she could forget about any caravan. He didn't come back for second half.

Other than him, a lot of bellends
 
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hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #111
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Off the racist topic for a minute but I thought the behaviour of some Cov fans yesterday was utterly shameful. I travel to half a dozen or so away matches every season but it's getting to the stage where I'm not enjoying it any more, and it's not down to what's on the pitch. Some idiots spend the whole 90 minutes abusing players and fellow supporters alike .
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Coke and lager
 

Otis

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  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #112
oucho said:
Eh? Without wanting to sound thick or uninformed, why is it "treating him poorly" to say he was tired at 3am? I'm tired at the time of night when I am still up, which happens once a week....no shame in it. How's that racist?
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Were you on the front page of the Sun too?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #113
hill83 said:
Coke and lager
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Sounds rank, lemonade is ok for a power shandy
 
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hill83

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  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #114
Nick said:
Sounds rank, lemonade is ok for a power shandy
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The dash is the lager. Managed 2 halves last night.
 
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oucho

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  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #115
Otis said:
Were you on the front page of the Sun too?
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Ehhh??

hill83 said:
Did you click the link where it shows 35 other stories about him? Nothing overtly racist (of course, national newspapers) but he’s targeted. You won’t find the direct evidence I assume you are wanting though.
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I'm not looking for evidence or playing devil's advocate...I genuinely don't know why Sterling has felt the media has played the race card against him, and wanted to get an idea of the sort of coverage he meant. The one about him being up until 3am seems reminiscent of similar stories about Gazza and Teddy Sheringham, no allegations of racism floating about around those stories.
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #116
oucho said:
Ehhh??



I'm not looking for evidence or playing devil's advocate...I genuinely don't know why Sterling has felt the media has played the race card against him, and wanted to get an idea of the sort of coverage he meant. The one about him being up until 3am seems reminiscent of similar stories about Gazza and Teddy Sheringham, no allegations of racism floating about around those stories.
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Mediawatch special: Raheem Sterling and The Sun (again)... - Football365
The Sun/Mail undoubtedly deliberately focus on Sterling and other young black players to generate controversy/arguments and all importantly clicks. Then when the lowest common denominators hurl racist abuse (due to their continuous stories?...), they can report on that and get more clicks. Rinse and repeat with no shame...
 
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oucho

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  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #117
MusicDating said:
Mediawatch special: Raheem Sterling and The Sun (again)... - Football365
The Sun/Mail undoubtedly deliberately focus on Sterling and other young black players to generate controversy/arguments and all importantly clicks. Then when the lowest common denominators hurl racist abuse (due to their continuous stories?...), they can report on that and get more clicks. Rinse and repeat with no shame...
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I don't see any real evidence that the papers are picking on Sterling because he is black. The gun tattoo thing was obviously wrong, and everyone who did so was right to call it out. He's not a victim as far as I can see.
 

hill83

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  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #118
hill83 said:
You won’t find the direct evidence I assume you are wanting though.
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oucho said:
I'm not looking for evidence
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oucho said:
I don't see any real evidence
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Shall we just leave it?
 

oucho

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #119
hill83 said:
Shall we just leave it?
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Yeah we can leave it that there's no evidence
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #120
oucho said:
Yeah we can leave it that there's no evidence
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That you are wanting. As if a paper would come out with direct racism.
 

Otis

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  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #121
Does seem pretty clear to me.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #122
oucho said:
I don't see any real evidence that the papers are picking on Sterling because he is black. The gun tattoo thing was obviously wrong, and everyone who did so was right to call it out. He's not a victim as far as I can see.
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That tattoo did it for me. He's an attention seeker, whatever colour he is. Whoops, that'll upset someone.
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #123
oucho said:
I don't see any real evidence that the papers are picking on Sterling because he is black. The gun tattoo thing was obviously wrong, and everyone who did so was right to call it out. He's not a victim as far as I can see.
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They create a negative image of him. I don’t know anything about him but the perception is of a greedy figure - yet he’s no different than any other play.

Cashley Cole was another constantly receiving negative press. Cole was always one of the first at his clubs to volunteer for charity and community work and yet he was again tarnished with a negative image

As a contrast the greedy, grasping Beckham was given sainthood status
 
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The Great Eastern

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #124
I also watched the whole game live and was perplexed by the abuse the middle-aged twats were dishing out to Sterling. So much hatred and anger in their faces. Where the hell does that come from ? Just waiting for some prick to say 'we were just having a laugh.'
Anyone know if the Chelsea mob still make the anti Jewish gas-chamber hissing sound whenever they used to play Tottenham ? Quite disgusting....
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #125
Grendel said:
They create a negative image of him. I don’t know anything about him but the perception is of a greedy figure - yet he’s no different than any other play.

Cashley Cole was another constantly receiving negative press. Cole was always one of the first at his clubs to volunteer for charity and community work and yet he was again tarnished with a negative image

As a contrast the greedy, grasping Beckham was given sainthood status
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Rooney wasn't too popular.
 

HerneBayGaz

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #126
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Off the racist topic for a minute but I thought the behaviour of some Cov fans yesterday was utterly shameful. I travel to half a dozen or so away matches every season but it's getting to the stage where I'm not enjoying it any more, and it's not down to what's on the pitch. Some idiots spend the whole 90 minutes abusing players and fellow supporters alike .
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Sadly it's been like that for a few seasons or more

Idiots more interested in getting 'Hammered' then supporting the team

Going to away games these days is certainly less enjoyable
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #127
sylus said:
I also watched the whole game live and was perplexed by the abuse the middle-aged twats were dishing out to Sterling. So much hatred and anger in their faces. Where the hell does that come from ? Just waiting for some prick to say 'we were just having a laugh.'
Anyone know if the Chelsea mob still make the anti Jewish gas-chamber hissing sound whenever they used to play Tottenham ? Quite disgusting....
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think it's safe to say they do

 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #128
hill83 said:
Shall we just leave it?
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what you've got to understand Hill is middle aged white men know more about racism than you, they know more about sexism and misogyny than women and they know more about anti Semitism than Jewish people. We've been top of the entitlement tree for that long our hubris is off the fucking scale.

That's why media outlets up and down this country will today be discussing the Sterling incident and statement and talking about how terrible the whole thing is yet the barely employ a black person between them and certainly not in a high profile position. Chief culprit will be Talksport who'll have the like of Jim White and Alan Brazil waxing lyrical on the matter, a pair of absolute roasters who can talk utter shite on almost any topic.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #129
oucho said:
I don't see any real evidence that the papers are picking on Sterling because he is black. The gun tattoo thing was obviously wrong, and everyone who did so was right to call it out. He's not a victim as far as I can see.
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Why is Foden a Saint for buying his parents a house and Sterling a greedy show off for buying his mum a house? What's the difference between Foden and Sterling?
 
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Leamington Pete

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  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #130
Only a matter of time before Chelsea fan and father of three Terry Twat talks to the Sun, claims he’s not a racist and has lots of black friends. I’ll give it 24 hours.
 
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  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #131
Skybluefaz said:
Why is Foden a Saint for buying his parents a house and Sterling a greedy show off for buying his mum a house? What's the difference between Foden and Sterling?
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it wasn't Sterling, it was Adarabioyo. The writer of the article has defended the piece by saying that the articles were a year apart and need to be placed in context: the Adarabioyo article was written when there was a focus on the spending power of clubs and these having extremely well paid youngsters on the books who had hardly seen first team action. Not defending, simply providing a response from the writer, who (for what it is worth) was Asian.

Racism/Culturalism will be possibly always with us, and every race/culture practises it.
 

Otis

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  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #132
clint van damme said:
what you've got to understand Hill is middle aged white men know more about racism than you, they know more about sexism and misogyny than women and they know more about anti Semitism than Jewish people. We've been top of the entitlement tree for that long our hubris is off the fucking scale.

That's why media outlets up and down this country will today be discussing the Sterling incident and statement and talking about how terrible the whole thing is yet the barely employ a black person between them and certainly not in a high profile position. Chief culprit will be Talksport who'll have the like of Jim White and Alan Brazil waxing lyrical on the matter, a pair of absolute roasters who can talk utter shite on almost any topic.
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Just had a black journalist from the Mirror on 5Live.

He says there is clearly a problem, and though these incidents are sort of mentioned in the papers in a small article tucked away somewhere, nothing is done and they all just move on.

He said he is really cheered by Sterling speaking out and saying what black people already know.

They simply shouldn't have to just put up with it.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #133
Otis said:
Just had a black journalist from the Mirror on 5Live.

He says there is clearly a problem, and though these incidents are sort of mentioned in the papers in a small article tucked away somewhere, nothing is done and they all just move on.

He said he is really cheered by Sterling speaking out and saying what black people already know.

They simply shouldn't have to just put up with it.
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Darren someone? He'll be busy today because I 'm fairly sure he's the only senior black sports writer on a national newspaper.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #134
dubed said:
it wasn't Sterling, it was Adarabioyo. The writer of the article has defended the piece by saying that the articles were a year apart and need to be placed in context: the Adarabioyo article was written when there was a focus on the spending power of clubs and these having extremely well paid youngsters on the books who had hardly seen first team action. Not defending, simply providing a response from the writer, who (for what it is worth) was Asian.

Racism/Culturalism will be possibly always with us, and every race/culture practises it.
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England's Raheem Sterling shows off blinging house on Snapchat after Euro 2016 exit | Daily Mail Online

That's not an article about Sterling then?
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #135
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Rooney wasn't too popular.
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I've said it before, there are parts of the media and the establishment who don't like young working class men making lots of money, if they're ethnic then their dislike goes up several notches.

I've never seen an article criticising the earnings of Benedict Cumberbatch or Eddie Redmayne.
 

hill83

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  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #136
Skybluefaz said:
England's Raheem Sterling shows off blinging house on Snapchat after Euro 2016 exit | Daily Mail Online

That's not an article about Sterling then?
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I think he means that the examples Sterling used weren't any of the articles about himself.
 
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Otis

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  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #137
clint van damme said:
Darren someone? He'll be busy today because I 'm fairly sure he's the only senior black sports writer on a national newspaper.
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Yeah, that 's him.
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #138
dubed said:
it wasn't Sterling, it was Adarabioyo. The writer of the article has defended the piece by saying that the articles were a year apart and need to be placed in context: the Adarabioyo article was written when there was a focus on the spending power of clubs and these having extremely well paid youngsters on the books who had hardly seen first team action. Not defending, simply providing a response from the writer, who (for what it is worth) was Asian.

Racism/Culturalism will be possibly always with us, and every race/culture practises it.
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Adarabioyo is another example of attempted character assassination by the Mail. Racism in the mainstream media should not be with us but it is and its fucking dangerous because it encourages behaviour like those fucking Chelsea morons.
 
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Otis

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  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #139
Which is exactly what Raheem Sterling is saying.
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #140
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Off the racist topic for a minute but I thought the behaviour of some Cov fans yesterday was utterly shameful. I travel to half a dozen or so away matches every season but it's getting to the stage where I'm not enjoying it any more, and it's not down to what's on the pitch. Some idiots spend the whole 90 minutes abusing players and fellow supporters alike .
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hill83 said:
Coke and lager
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this is becoming an issue at a lot of clubs and by the sound of it, listening to supporters od other clubs I know and seeing stuff put on social media there are a lot of clubs where it's a much bigger issue than at ours.
Always disappointing to hear people getting put off away games because of it.
 
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