Yeah and it does seem to be getting worse.Like it or not this is symptomatic of our times. Now before anyone starts I'm not claiming that all Brexiteers are this or that. However there are some who are seemingly bouyed on, and believe it gives them a platform to revert to unacceptable behaviour towards others. However it does show that the problem never really went away.
I've never ever really got it and I could never behave in such a fashion, but you do see it every week. The player doesn't even have had to do anything.
Sort of get it when a player has been giving it the big un to the crowd, but still don't think it's right and most of the time a player has only done the horrible thing of playing for the opposition.
Have to say, I can't make out what these fans are shouting here at Sterling, but there's lots of frothing at the mouth.
Hope their wives, partners and family are ashamed of them.
Seems to be uglier than ever these days.
Like it or not this is symptomatic of our times. Now before anyone starts I'm not claiming that all Brexiteers are this or that. However there are some who are seemingly bouyed on, and believe it gives them a platform to revert to unacceptable behaviour towards others. However it does show that the problem never really went away.
Racism within society has never gone away and is still there. I used to know plenty who’d use words like paki, coon etc. I doubt they’ve suddenly become enlightened all of a sudden either.
Apologies for the language in the post, btw but it has to be pointed out that it is still relatively common, although I like to think they’re becoming an ever smaller minority
Like it or not this is symptomatic of our times. Now before anyone starts I'm not claiming that all Brexiteers are this or that. However there are some who are seemingly bouyed on, and believe it gives them a platform to revert to unacceptable behaviour towards others. However it does show that the problem never really went away.
It isn’t relatively common and is significantly improved from a couple of decades ago
I'm a British Asian city fan, been going to city for over 25 years and never once at a city game had any racist abuse hurled in my direction either at home or at the odd away game I go to by city fans, Port Vale fans are sadly a different issue.I disagree and still think it’s there under the surface.
They’re just a bunch of cowards who’d probably cry if a player dared to have a go back at them
To put another spin on this,would we even be having this conversation had the player been white and 3 black/Asian men were hurling abuse at him,wouldn't even make the news,racism only works one way and that can be sometimes be abused too,not that i am condoning this behaviour in any shape or form.
To put another spin on this,would we even be having this conversation had the player been white and 3 black/Asian men were hurling abuse at him,wouldn't even make the news,racism only works one way and that can be sometimes be abused too,not that i am condoning this behaviour in any shape or form.
Have you ever seen black fans hurling racist abuse at white players?To put another spin on this,would we even be having this conversation had the player been white and 3 black/Asian men were hurling abuse at him,wouldn't even make the news,racism only works one way and that can be sometimes be abused too,not that i am condoning this behaviour in any shape or form.
To put another spin on this,would we even be having this conversation had the player been white and 3 black/Asian men were hurling abuse at him,wouldn't even make the news,racism only works one way and that can be sometimes be abused too,not that i am condoning this behaviour in any shape or form.
To put another spin on this,would we even be having this conversation had the player been white and 3 black/Asian men were hurling abuse at him,wouldn't even make the news.
Classic racist whataboutery.
Who are you calling a racist?. if you start a thread with racism in mind,be prepared to have a conversation which comes from both sides of the coin,not just the one.
Oh, and Otis i personally haven't witnessed any black guys hurling abuse at white players,but saying that,doesn't mean its never happened though does it.I am not racist in any form, and neither have i been ever,but if you want to act childish when someone else maybe see's it from another point of view,well what can i say..
I'm a British Asian city fan, been going to city for over 25 years and never once at a city game had any racist abuse hurled in my direction either at home or at the odd away game I go to by city fans, Port Vale fans are sadly a different issue.
Racism definitely still exists in society, but I'm significantly less likely to be abused when walking down the street than my grandparents were when they arrived in this country in the sixties.
Who are you calling a racist?. if you start a thread with racism in mind,be prepared to have a conversation which comes from both sides of the coin,not just the one.
Oh, and Otis i personally haven't witnessed any black guys hurling abuse at white players,but saying that,doesn't mean its never happened though does it.I am not racist in any form, and neither have i been ever,but if you want to act childish when someone else maybe see's it from another point of view,well what can i say..
I think it depends what it is. Full on abuse isn't on, moans and groans are to be expected with a misplaced pass.I was at the Warwick and Leamington supporters forum this week. While Robins in particular (really articulate and thoughtful answers), but also Grimmer and Hyam came across very well, I have to say I disagreed with Grimmer when he was asked how it felt like to be on the end of crowd abuse. He may have been being diplomatic when he said that if you take the praise and adulation when you win, you have to accept the abuse when you lose. I don’t think you do. Some of the abuse thrown at players is disgusting and completely wrong (an example of this being the post about Lee Carsley above or the abuse given to the players at Chesterfield (after a draw!) or Yeovil last season). Aside from the moral factor of one human being treating another so badly, how on earth does screaming filth in the face of one of your players help him to perform better and develop a love of the club or it’s fans so that they will want to run the extra mile or bust a gut to ensure a win?
Unfortunately some football fans do behave like cretins.
I don’t disagree. Everyone moans and groans. The players do at their team mates. The screaming in players faces, the hate filled comments to our players or another team’s is a completely different matter.I think it depends what it is. Full on abuse isn't on, moans and groans are to be expected with a misplaced pass.
At the Walsall cup game, when any of their players were on the touch line our fans were in groups trying to lean over to abuse them. It's no wonder they cup their ear when they win.
I agree, it is always the people who do that who get upset when they get a bit back. See kilbane getting abuse and then fan outrage when he said something back.I don’t disagree. Everyone moans and groans. The players do at their team mates. The screaming in players faces, the hate filled comments to our players or another team’s is a completely different matter.
I was referring to society in general and it being under the surface still.
Good article on that very subject with Sterling bemoaning the fact that two young Man City players have been treated differently over the buying of houses for their mums. One black player one white British.I agree, it's still there at every level of society. Sterling gets a ridiculous amount of abuse in the tabloids, which is pretty much racist in tone, and it is without a doubt different to the kind of coverage young white footballers get.
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