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A Tale of Two Plans – A Return to Plan A? (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter st john
  • Start date May 18, 2015
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st john

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  • May 18, 2015
  • #1
When SISU arrived in 2007/8, there is little doubt that their reason for purchase was the expectation of a quick return to the Premiership, as demonstrated by their nett spend of 3 to 4M on new players in 2008 and the appointment of Chris Coleman,at that time a fairly big name.
I have never believed theories about complicated tax issues or dumping of debt into the club as their objective for ownership, but I believe there came a point when plan A was deemed to have failed and plan B was hatched which involved generating a return on their investment from ownership of the Ricoh and player sales, and much less emphasis on getting a return from the on-field activities.

Reasons for believing this, (apart from all the litigation)


No apparent attempt to avoid relegation from the Championship, no change of manager at a point that might have saved us (as they did this season)


Comments inferring that our turnover was not sustainable for a position above League 1


SISU seemed happy with the ground arrangement for the duration of plan A


Now plan B appears to have failed, in my mind there can only be two options that make any business sense whatsoever, either crystallise the losses and walk away, or return to plan A.

Considering the appointment of TM, I believe SISU have returned to plan A, for one more attempt, and that TM has persuaded them that it can be done, at least part of the way, without too much extra investment.

The latest comment on the CCFC website confirms my thoughts.

“We’ve made that statement now by bringing him in and we see this as a fresh start in taking the club forward"

Premiership in 3 years?

Edited: sorry about the formatting error.
 
Last edited: May 18, 2015

kg82

Well-Known Member
  • May 18, 2015
  • #2
Blimmin 'eck... what?!
 

mrtrench

Well-Known Member
  • May 18, 2015
  • #3
[Style = Sarcasm] Perfectly clear to me [/Style]
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • May 18, 2015
  • #4
kg82 said:
Blimmin 'eck... what?!
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I think he's just trying to say .....


Run for the hills ..... the Romans are coming!!!!!

Still waiting on the times though.

My guess is 8 o'clock and a quarter past 10.
 

Esoterica

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  • May 18, 2015
  • #5
Apart from there being no W, B, only one O and 2 missing Ys, Times New Roman is actually an anagram of Tony Mowbray
 

st john

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  • May 18, 2015
  • #6
Sorry, formatting sorted
 

Samo

Well-Known Member
  • May 18, 2015
  • #7
st john said:
When SISU arrived in 2007/8, there is little doubt that their reason for purchase was
the expectation of a quick return to the Premiership, as demonstrated by their nett spend of 3 to 4M on new players in 2008 and the appointment of Chris Coleman,at that time a fairly big name.
I have never believed theories about complicated tax issues or dumping of debt into the club as their objective for ownership, but I believe there came a point when plan A was deemed to have failed and plan B was hatched which involved generating a return on their investment from ownership of the Ricoh and player sales, and much less emphasis on getting a return from the on-field activities.

Reasons for believing this, (apart from all the litigation)


No apparent attempt to avoid relegation from the Championship, no change of manager at a point that might have saved us (as they did this season)


Comments inferring that our turnover was not sustainable for a position above League 1


SISU seemed happy with the ground arrangement for the duration of plan A


Now plan B appears to have failed, in my mind there can only be two options that make any business sense whatsoever, either crystallise the losses and walk away, or return to plan A.

Considering the appointment of TM, I believe SISU have returned to plan A, for one more attempt, and that TM has persuaded them that it can be done, at least part of the way, without too much extra investment.

The latest comment on the CCFC website confirms my thoughts.

“We’ve made that statement now by bringing him in and we see this as a fresh start in taking the club forward"

Premiership in 3 years?

Edited: sorry about the formatting error.
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As I've always said; only 2 ways out - walk or invest.
 

hill83

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  • May 18, 2015
  • #8
Samo said:
As I've always said; only 2 ways out - walk or invest.
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They could probably leave in a shirt or cardigan to be fair.
 

higgs

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  • May 18, 2015
  • #9
Statement of intent by the club we deserve a promotion chasing season at long last happy days
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • May 18, 2015
  • #10
Wish they'd gone for a Mowbray with Plan A 1 instead of Coleman.

As with every summer (bar the last but one) I'll get deliriously optimistic only to have my hopes dashed the first time I see the team play. That said: Premiership in three years!
 

higgs

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  • May 18, 2015
  • #11
Dark days are over shmmeee sp is gone tm is different class
 
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Jack Griffin

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  • May 18, 2015
  • #12
So wide of the mark, this is just plan G, get back to the Championship and cling in there with a Division Three budget.

Take a few years profits and then sell on citing difficulties & obstructions encountered in land acquisition as a reason for not building a new stadium.

Well my guess is as good as anyone's, only time will tell.
 

shmmeee

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  • May 18, 2015
  • #13
higgs said:
Dark days are over shmmeee sp is gone tm is different class
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I'm optimistic. Let's see who he gets through the door, he certainly had a better record with those he brought in than SP. Looking good that he's put his foot down with Joy. I suspect Presley could've but didn't have the experience to back it up.
 
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martcov

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  • May 18, 2015
  • #14
shmmeee said:
I'm optimistic. Let's see who he gets through the door, he certainly had a better record with those he brought in than SP. Looking good that he's put his foot down with Joy. I suspect Presley could've but didn't have the experience to back it up.
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I think you are right.TM has got his assurances before the season started. We have no points deduction, no transfer embargo and someone who was given a job to do and did it.

We know that we have someone capable, knows what has to be done and who wants to do it.

I am 100% sure we will make the play offs under Mowbray and probably do well in the paint pot cup.
 
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