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Hadji10

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #36
SkyBlueRuffian said:
Cole----Sordell---Jones
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Joe Cole on the wing.


Hahahahaahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahshshshahaahahahaahahahahahahahshaahahahahaha

HA.
 

NortonSkyBlue

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #37
Hadji10 said:
We've got one. He's won 6 of his 10 games in charge. We lost 1-0' at home to the best side in the league and we need a new manager, get in the fucking sea mate.
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an opinion dear boy, please note its the point of forums for idiots like me to have a platform and for intellects like yourself to come back at me with your wisdom. Anyhow off back to the fucking sea.
 
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ceetee

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #38
Every tim,e Jones cuts in and runs across, not at the defenders. They just stand their ground, stick out a foot and take the ball off him. Must be one of the easiest players to defend against..

It's very frustrating because he must have the skills - just doesn't know how to play football - a common fault in many of today's youngsters.
 
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Sky Blue Kid

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #39
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
Don't you think Scouts would be clever enough to realise? They will also see his one dimension and no end product. It's not a car they are warming up before somebody comes to have a look.

Maybe, he is brought on when they are tired because he is more effective then?

Madness
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Pity our scout wasn't then!
 
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Sky Blue Kid

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #40
Nick said:
Don't you think Scouts would be clever enough to realise? They will also see his one dimension and no end product. It's not a car they are warming up before somebody comes to have a look.

Maybe, he is brought on when they are tired because he is more effective then?

Madness
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Same reply to you then Nick.... Pity our scout wasn't quick enough to spot it then eh
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #41
Hadji10 said:
Hahahaha, fucking mental.
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Does it take practice to become a obnoxious twat? or does it come naturally to you?
 
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Hadji10

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #42
Sky Blue Kid said:
Does it take practice to become a obnoxious twat? or does it come naturally to you?
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All natural.
 

SkyBlueRuffian

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #43
Hadji10 said:
Joe Cole on the wing.


Hahahahaahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahshshshahaahahahaahahahahahahahshaahahahahaha

HA.
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They're not wingers as such if you play a 4-3-2-1 formation, which is what I was thinking. Cole would do more running in 1 game than Wright and Agyei do all season.
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #44
Hadji10 said:
Joe Cole on the wing.


Hahahahaahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahshshshahaahahahaahahahahahahahshaahahahahaha

HA.
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Style of play
A clever, versatile, and technically gifted midfielder, Cole is capable of playing in several offensive midfield positions, as an attacking midfielder, winger or supporting striker.[111][112] A quick, strong and creative player, Cole is known in particular for his dribbling skills, and is capable of both scoring and creating goals due to his vision, passing and striking ability.

Ooohhhhh!!!! What does that say again? Does it say winger?, Nah! surely not, Wait a minute...Yes!............it does!
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #45
SkyBlueRuffian said:
They're not wingers as such if you play a 4-3-2-1 formation, which is what I was thinking. Cole would do more running in 1 game than Wright and Agyei do all season.
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Agree with what you said mate, but his injuries have slowed him down a bit
 

stupot07

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #46
Sky Blue Kid said:
Style of play
A clever, versatile, and technically gifted midfielder, Cole is capable of playing in several offensive midfield positions, as an attacking midfielder, winger or supporting striker.[111][112] A quick, strong and creative player, Cole is known in particular for his dribbling skills, and is capable of both scoring and creating goals due to his vision, passing and striking ability.

Ooohhhhh!!!! What does that say again? Does it say winger?, Nah! surely not, Wait a minute...Yes! it does!
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Tbf, that's when he was in his 20's and had thr legs to do it. He's what 35 now? He just hasn't got the legs to play there, he looked at his best for us when we played him central and in a deeper role with licence to get forward when he wanted to. He could do a job in our central 3 but he would struggle as a winger.

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Sky Blue Kid

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #47
stupot07 said:
Tbf, that's when he was in his 20's and had thr legs to do it. He's what 35 now? He just hasn't got the legs to play there, he looked at his best for us when we played him central and in a deeper role with licence to get forward when he wanted to. He could do a job in our central 3 but he would struggle as a winger.

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Which... If you read my reply to SkyBlueRuffian.. I said his injuries have slowed him down, Try and keep up if you're going to troll me
 
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Hadji10

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #48
Sky Blue Kid said:
Style of play
A clever, versatile, and technically gifted midfielder, Cole is capable of playing in several offensive midfield positions, as an attacking midfielder, winger or supporting striker.[111][112] A quick, strong and creative player, Cole is known in particular for his dribbling skills, and is capable of both scoring and creating goals due to his vision, passing and striking ability.

Ooohhhhh!!!! What does that say again? Does it say winger?, Nah! surely not, Wait a minute...Yes!............it does!
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You've got that from Wikipedia. He played on the wing in his twenties.

He was here last season, did you actually watch him? He can't beat a man anymore, he's slow as shit and in all honesty, he's just not very good.
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #49
Hadji10 said:
You've got that from Wikipedia. He played on the wing in his twenties.

He was here last season, did you actually watch him? He can't beat a man anymore, he's slow as shit and in all honesty, he's just not very good.
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I was expecting stupot07 to be the one trolling menvm) Same reply to you... re-read my posts #45-#47
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #50
Hadji10 said:
You've got that from Wikipedia. He played on the wing in his twenties.

He was here last season, did you actually watch him? He can't beat a man anymore, he's slow as shit and in all honesty, he's just not very good.
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Do a bit of research and you'll see he's actually playing Left Wing in the Tampa team
 

Nick

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #51
Sky Blue Kid said:
Same reply to you then Nick.... Pity our scout wasn't quick enough to spot it then eh
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Maybe they did, that's why he is 18 and with the aim to develop
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #52
Nick said:
Maybe they did, that's why he is 18 and with the aim to develop
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That's right Nick, move the goalposts
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #53
stupot07 said:
Whilst I agree he was brought in with the view to develop and sell, I don't believe we are only bringing him on the last 20 minutes to make him look good in order to sell. The truth is he's not ready to play week in week out from the start. Even at Dagenham and Redbridge he was mainly used as a sub. If he was producing the goods he'd be starting most weeks.

Quick players will always be more effective against tiring defenders, we even saw this with Murphy last season, he'd be poor/anonymous for 70 mins then be unplayable last 20.

Jones just lacks a brain and a right foot. Nothing wrong with playing inverted wingers but they have to mix up play and go around the outside at times too. He only does one thing and that makes him predictable. We played right footed Murphy on the left and he would go either way. This and the final ball and decision making is what Jones needs to develop in order to command a starting berth.

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I think Reid would be more effective than Jones cutting in from the right. We should switch them about during the game.
 

stupot07

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #54
Sheffers has the measure of us..

Gary McSheffrey has had his say on the game so far. The City legend and former Scunthorpe player is here doing radio work. This is what he had to say about the first half: “I think Scunthorpe started well and missed really good chance from Madden when Burgey made a great save. Coventry then started to dominate possession - all in the middle third again - and they’ve ground Scunthorpe down a bit.

“I just get a bit concerned for Coventry because they grind it down and have good possession in midfield and then there’s never really that threat in behind though. Sordell has just started to do that towards the end of the first half and I’d like to see him play down the middle because I think he can be a huge threat. He drifts into the area and has got two good feet to get shots off.

“There has been two or three really good balls into the box but no-one really to get on the end of it, no-one gambles.

“The ball has rolled across the six-yard lie and it’s crying out for a fox in the box, if you like, someone like a Cody McDonald of old to get a few tap-ins because I think they are playing well until they get into the box and then don’t seem much of a goal scoring threat.

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Grendel

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #55
stupot07 said:
Sheffers has the measure of us..

Gary McSheffrey has had his say on the game so far. The City legend and former Scunthorpe player is here doing radio work. This is what he had to say about the first half: “I think Scunthorpe started well and missed really good chance from Madden when Burgey made a great save. Coventry then started to dominate possession - all in the middle third again - and they’ve ground Scunthorpe down a bit.

“I just get a bit concerned for Coventry because they grind it down and have good possession in midfield and then there’s never really that threat in behind though. Sordell has just started to do that towards the end of the first half and I’d like to see him play down the middle because I think he can be a huge threat. He drifts into the area and has got two good feet to get shots off.

“There has been two or three really good balls into the box but no-one really to get on the end of it, no-one gambles.

“The ball has rolled across the six-yard lie and it’s crying out for a fox in the box, if you like, someone like a Cody McDonald of old to get a few tap-ins because I think they are playing well until they get into the box and then don’t seem much of a goal scoring threat.

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You'll regret posting that
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #56
Grendel said:
You'll regret posting that
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What the bit about Cody Mcdonald :'(
 
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stupot07

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #57
Grendel said:
You'll regret posting that
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wingy said:
What the bit about Cody Mcdonald :'(
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Tbf, he didn't say we missed Cody per se, but more so someone who likes to feed on scraps in the box like Cody or billy sharp or even a Dominic Samuel. I would say i don't think any can argue Cody was very very poor for us...

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Grendel

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #58
stupot07 said:
Tbf, he didn't say we missed Cody per se, but more so someone who likes to feed on scraps in the box like Cody or billy sharp or even a Dominic Samuel. I would say i don't think any can argue Cody was very very poor for us...

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I'm sure someone can
 
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Hadji10

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #59
Gary Mcsheffrey has been on CWR a few times and he's a very good analyst.
 
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stupot07

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #60
Hadji10 said:
Gary Mcsheffrey has been on CWR a few times and he's a very good analyst.
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Yeah, he is. I thought Jorgensen was pretty good when summing up yesterday too.

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Hadji10

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #61
Dave Phillips is really good aswell.
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #62
Hadji10 said:
Gary Mcsheffrey has been on CWR a few times and he's a very good analyst.
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Yep, agree. Constructive and insightful and seemingly sees the same way I see the game anyway.

Talks a lot of sense.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 13, 2016
  • #63
stupot07 said:
Sheffers has the measure of us..

Gary McSheffrey has had his say on the game so far. The City legend and former Scunthorpe player is here doing radio work. This is what he had to say about the first half: “I think Scunthorpe started well and missed really good chance from Madden when Burgey made a great save. Coventry then started to dominate possession - all in the middle third again - and they’ve ground Scunthorpe down a bit.

“I just get a bit concerned for Coventry because they grind it down and have good possession in midfield and then there’s never really that threat in behind though. Sordell has just started to do that towards the end of the first half and I’d like to see him play down the middle because I think he can be a huge threat. He drifts into the area and has got two good feet to get shots off.

“There has been two or three really good balls into the box but no-one really to get on the end of it, no-one gambles.

“The ball has rolled across the six-yard lie and it’s crying out for a fox in the box, if you like, someone like a Cody McDonald of old to get a few tap-ins because I think they are playing well until they get into the box and then don’t seem much of a goal scoring threat.

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Yes. The two wide strikers don't attack the box from crosses from the other side, really really odd for strikers. Also one of the central midfielder should be looking get around the penalty box.
 
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phildownunder

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  • Nov 14, 2016
  • #64
Otis said:
Yep, agree. Constructive and insightful and seemingly sees the same way I see the game anyway.

Talks a lot of sense.
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Not for the first time this season the CWR signal kept cutting out and I had to switch to the opposition`s coverage and then had no problems (why does this keep happening I wonder?).

The commentator was v. good, better than Eakin or Foster IMO, giving a good even handed description and never getting any player`s name wrong - unlike Clive!

McSheffrey was the summariser and did an excellent job making intelligent and insightful comments on the play and on individual players of each side. I found myself glad I`d had to make the switch.

As has already been alluded to, he said that physically Jones has every attribute to go far in the game, but has to learn how to channel his considerable natural ability to the needs of the team and vary his play more, which is pretty much the consensus on here I think

When asked to sum up Jones at present he described him as a speedboat without a pilot.
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Nov 14, 2016
  • #65
Fair assessment to be fair
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 14, 2016
  • #66
"There has been two or three really good balls into the box but no-one really to get on the end of it, no-one gambles."

That could be any City team since I started watching us, including several with McSheffrey in.
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 14, 2016
  • #67
shmmeee said:
"There has been two or three really good balls into the box but no-one really to get on the end of it, no-one gambles."

That could be any City team since I started watching us, including several with McSheffrey in.
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Not really. Mcsheffrey was an example of how a wide player in a 3 should play.

Saturday was absurd. The only midfielder likely to score or even have any effective contribution in the penalty area was Rose and he seemed relegated to playing some kind of holding role.

We play one striker and two wide strikers who rarely move from the channels. We take ages to move the ball from midfield forward and the midfield never supports the one striker.

We are an opponents dream most of the time. Some tough games coming up and we need to threaten more.
 
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mrtrench

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  • Nov 14, 2016
  • #68
Usain Bolt is retiring from sprinting and looking to play football. He's going over to train with Borussia Dortmund. Could we sneak in?

Only snag is that he's a goalie.
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Nov 14, 2016
  • #69
idm1975 said:
Bring back joe cole
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Looks like Lampards available scored 15 Goals for New York.
 

letsallsingtogether

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  • Nov 14, 2016
  • #70
mrtrench said:
Usain Bolt is retiring from sprinting and looking to play football. He's going over to train with Borussia Dortmund. Could we sneak in?

Only snag is that he's a goalie.
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Well with his speed we could play running goalie.
 
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