A Noble Protest? (1 Viewer)

Samo · Aug 7, 2014

Did anyone watch Who do you think you are this evening? Julie Walters was the subject and her Irish roots. Her ancestors fought a good and noble fight through an organisation called the Land League against the oppressive English landlords of the day. Their chosen method of protest: Unlawful withholding of rent. Any thoughts?

Deleted member 5849 · Aug 8, 2014

Not many, it seems

Samo · Aug 8, 2014

Deleted member 5849 said:
Not many, it seems

Well that'll teach me for posting late at night while under the influence, and for trying to make mischief!

SIR ERNIE · Aug 8, 2014

Samo said:
Did anyone watch Who do you think you are this evening? Julie Walters was the subject and her Irish roots. Her ancestors fought a good and noble fight through an organisation called the Land League against the oppressive English landlords of the day. Their chosen method of protest: Unlawful withholding of rent. Any thoughts?

not a good or noble fight imo, just illegal.

next

Samo · Aug 8, 2014

SIR ERNIE said:
not a good or noble fight imo, just illegal.

next

Bit harsh on the Irish peasants.

Noggin · Aug 8, 2014

If they had withheld the rent until the point that acl gave in and gave them the deal of 400k a season and then signed that things would be very different indeed, we could have had a really good attempt at going for promotion. The withholding rent was scummy, but it worked and got a much better deal for the club, the big shame is they didn't take it and instead chose to cause short and long term damage to the club by moving it away.

Samo · Aug 8, 2014

Noggin said:
If they had withheld the rent until the point that acl gave in and gave them the deal of 400k a season
and then signed that things would be very different indeed, we could have had a really good attempt at going for promotion. The withholding rent was scummy, but it worked and got a much better deal for the club, the big shame is they didn't take it and instead chose to cause short and long term damage to the club by moving it away.

Well one mans scummy is another mans heroic.

Noggin · Aug 8, 2014

Samo said:
Well one mans scummy is another mans heroic.

sure and had they accepted the 400k there would have been plenty of pladits, it would still have been scummy but probably overall most of us would have been pleased though with a tinge of guilt for feeling that way.

But thats not what they did is it, so it's not really worth discussing, There was some justification for forcing a contract renegotiation via a rent strike, there is no justification for what they have done since then.

Samo · Aug 8, 2014

Noggin said:
sure and had they accepted the 400k there would have been plenty of pladits, it would still have been scummy but probably overall most of us would have been pleased though with a tinge of guilt for feeling that way.

But thats not what they did is it, so it's not really worth discussing, There was some justification for forcing a contract renegotiation via a rent strike, there is no justification for what they have done since then.

Let's see how the breaking of that contract is viewed by city fans in a few years when the dust has settled.
But I wasn't trying to make a serious point, just messin with how things are not black and white and the law is not always `right`

Noggin · Aug 8, 2014

Sure the law is not always right, look no further than the utter disgrace that is our insolvency laws for that. Our libel laws don't appear to be much better either, so many laws that benefit the rich that can exploit them.

Oh well at least we aren't in Germany where Bernie gets off his Bribery charge by yep you guessed it giving a big fat cheque over to drop the charge (some might even call that a bribe)

mrtrench · Aug 9, 2014

Samo said:
things are not black and white and the law is not always `right`

I find it interesting how events and people are categorised as good or bad in history. Some events are obviously good or bad as they happen: the tumbling of the Berlin wall or Pol Pot being two examples. However in the main, it is difficult to guess how the future will pigeon hole events and people.

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