I don’t disagree but it’d be a huge improvement on recent results.I would argue more is needed, otherwise that’s 15 from 15 which is relegation fodder.
I crash cars for a living.
38 points from 31 games is poor going tbh.View attachment 38947
Since Feb, we have been awful.
I've been trying my best to back the players and Robins but that run is indefensible.
Even the handful of wins, besides Leeds and maybe Blackburn, are against some real shite sides.
Here’s the next 5 games:
QPR (A)
Luton (H)
Middlesbrough (A)
Derby (H)
Sunderland (A)
that takes us to the international break
We then play
Sheff Utd (H)
Burnley (A)
Cardiff (H)
realistically which game does the turnaround under Robins start?
the last 2 seasons we had similar starts - but we weren’t as bad performance wise as we have been this season.
I'm really not convinced the context here is wide enough. If you'd told me when he was appointed that we would be considering sacking the manager who re-established us as a decent championship outfit because he had an iffy first 10 games to the 24/25 season I'd have thought we were stupid.If you went back to the start of the play off season and said the next 3 seasons we’ll have a poor season ( lower\mid table } reach a FA cup semi final and get to a play off final, and some fans would be calling for robins to go, what would you honestly think ?
I think WILL have to turn.I do get the feeling that if the form is going to turn it's going to be Tuesday night tho.
Between the 5th March and the 6th April we won 4 out of 5 league games scoring 13 & conceding 5 we also had the epic 3 v 2 win away at WolvesView attachment 38947
Since Feb, we have been awful.
I've been trying my best to back the players and Robins but that run is indefensible.
Between the 5th March and the 6th April we won 4 out of 5 league games scoring 13 & conceding 5 we also had the epic 3 v 2 win away at Wolvesyou’re literally proving yourself wrong here.
What we also see is a lot of emphasis on people apparently saying Robins is “blameless”, arguing that everything now is his fault and saying that not putting all the blame on him is making excuses. But yet when it comes to all the things he has achieved, as we see in the OP, that wasn’t actually down to him.
so all the good things- not down to Robins
all the bad things- all down to Robins
.. and here’s a few dodgy stats to ‘prove’ it
Between the 5th March and the 6th April we won 4 out of 5 league games scoring 13 & conceding 5 we also had the epic 3 v 2 win away at Wolvesyou’re literally proving yourself wrong here.
The season was very erratic
15 points from the first 15 games
4 points from the last 8
46 points from the middle 23
We were never going to win the FA Cup, the focus should always have been on getting promoted.So what you’re saying is that he turned around a bad start to the season.
The end had an FA Cup run which detailed pretty much everything, which was actually accepted on here at the time.
Agreed, but that hasn’t got anything to do with my post or the post I was responding to.The season was very erratic
15 points from the first 15 games
4 points from the last 8
46 points from the middle 23
We were never going to win the FA Cup, the focus should always have been on getting promoted.
So what you’re saying is that he turned around a bad start to the season.
The end had an FA Cup run which detailed pretty much everything, which was actually accepted on here at the time.
I don't think they were on the beach, I think what happened destroyed them mentally.I don’t disagree, but that’s what happened. They’re human at the end of the day, and not the most experienced, the glamour & glitz and all that, we were on the beach after the Man Utd game. And that’s happened to so many clubs including us down the years.
I don't think they were on the beach, I think what happened destroyed them mentally.
Our big upturn in form was coinciding with O Hare in the team regularly.
During that time simms scored goals. The reality is he’s only scored in about 10 league games in total nearly all during that period.
Our cup “run” in the last 8 games consisted of one game - the semi fimal
And Simms isn’t scoring now (nor is anybody else), which takes us back to the xg table, which points to there being more at play than just Robins losing the plot totally.
Between the 5th March and the 6th April we won 4 out of 5 league games scoring 13 & conceding 5 we also had the epic 3 v 2 win away at Wolvesyou’re literally proving yourself wrong here.
Many suggest robins himself wanted simms.
Simms is tripe.
I don't think they were on the beach, I think what happened destroyed them mentally.
The results were ok in Feb but the performances had dipped, and sure enough the results followed.View attachment 38947
Since Feb, we have been awful.
I've been trying my best to back the players and Robins but that run is indefensible.
Even the handful of wins, besides Leeds and maybe Blackburn, are against some real shite sides.
And physically to be fair. They looked knackered for weeks. A real lack of squad depth at the time.
That’s where Todd Kane is now Ebbsfleet
Where we will be if we hire Harry WatlingThat’s where Todd Kane is now Ebbsfleet
The results were ok in Feb but the performances had dipped, and sure enough the results followed.
Bristol City, Stoke, Plymouth and Millwall were all unconvincing displays and the cracks really started to show for the PNE and West Brom fixtures.
The form had started to dip before the Man Utd match with three losses in four so its extremely unlikely we would not have made the play offs even if we didn't play the semi final.
So other than the odd blip, you are right that performances have been generally poor since February
He has been tripe this season but clearly there is a player thereMany suggest robins himself wanted simms.
Simms is tripe.
I think that’s xG - xA, so we’re missing good chances and conceding from low probability ones. The worst of both worlds, fine margins!Just looked and apparently we are 3rd in the xG table, which surprised me tbh. Middlesbrough top.
Just looked and apparently we are 3rd in the xG table, which surprised me tbh. Middlesbrough top.
I think that’s xG + xA, so we’re missing good chances and conceding from low probability ones. The worst of both worlds, fine margins!
Yep, there’s your clue as to one huge issue we have, which is being conveniently glossed over. We are creating chances but not taking them.
I think we’re 9th in the xga table for conceding too. 5th in the overall xgd table.
Really fine margins, for which Robins is ultimately accountable, but justification for demanding he be sacked immediately? Not for me.
My Dad (a Liverpool fan) took me to that game. Missed our goal because we were late getting in - My Dad then missed three Liverpool goals getting a coffee.I don’t disagree, but that’s what happened. They’re human at the end of the day, and not the most experienced, the glamour & glitz and all that, we were on the beach after the Man Utd game. And that’s happened to so many clubs including us down the years.
I’m an old man so I can dredge the memory banksI may be wrong, but 89/90 we were flying high in 4th for a fair while, then we had the League Cup Semi v Forest and after that we slumped to 10th or something, and lost 6-1 on the last day in one of the most embarrassing matches we ever had. We switched off and were indeed on the beach once that run ended.
it shouldn’t happen, these are highly paid professionals, but it does.
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