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Grendel

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  • Oct 20, 2024
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The robins era has surely come to an end.

Robins as a manager is a curious character. He really has only ever achieved anything with difficult ownership structure.

He excelled at Rotherham under almost impossible circumstances and in his first stint here. He developed an affinity with Sepalla and Fisher. If we are being honest his one major achievement was League one promotion. League two was a poor season ending with a charitable referee and a fortunate outcome.

Yes we achieved the play offs mainly with the goals of Gyokeres, the resilience of Mcfazdean and the second half of the season when Hamer starting playing at a level beyond which he’d achieved at the start of the season.

The cracks were beginning to show last season. We achieved a huge points tally in the middle 23 games - around 45 points. We achieved 19 at the beginning and the end. O hare returned and definitely distorted the whole season. We had -around 19 points in the other 23 games.

The Sisu gang of players Robins was effective with have gone. His sidekick has gone. If the new coaches are poor that needs addressing for sure but it’s a modern day structure. Robins isn’t a modern day manager and he is looking bereft of ideas and motivation.


As the old dance The Gentleman’s Excuse me says - under Mark Robins we are now taking one step forward and then taking two steps back.

The fans are tired of this dancing and we are now finished dancing.

It’s time to exit stage left.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #2
Grendel said:
The robins era has surely come to an end.

Robins as a manager is a curious character. He really has only ever achieved anything with difficult ownership structure.

He excelled at Rotherham under almost impossible circumstances and in his first stint here. He developed an affinity with Sepalla and Fisher. If we are being honest his one major achievement was League one promotion. League two was a poor season ending with a charitable referee and a fortunate outcome.

Yes we achieved the play offs mainly with the goals of Gyokeres, the resilience of Mcfazdean and the second half of the season when Hamer starting playing at a level beyond which he’d achieved at the start of the season.

The cracks were beginning to show last season. We achieved a huge points tally in the middle 23 games - around 45 points. We achieved 19 at the beginning and the end. O hare returned and definitely distorted the whole season. We had -around 19 points in the other 23 games.

The Sisu gang of players Robins was effective with have gone. His sidekick has gone. If the new coaches are poor that needs addressing for sure but it’s a modern day structure. Robins isn’t a modern day manager and he is looking bereft of ideas and motivation.


As the old dance The Gentleman’s Excuse me says - under Mark Robins we are now taking one step forward and then taking two steps back.

The fans are tired of this dancing and we are now finished dancing.

It’s time to exit stage left.
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Was the other thread not good enough ?
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #3
Evo1883 said:
Was the other thread not good enough ?
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I have to follow a tradition
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #4
Grendel said:
I have to follow a tradition
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You do , although usually it means a turnaround in form and I can't lie I've even been quite superstitious and thought about your threads recently and that this year you hadn't made one , mostly because your own superstition wanted to see if he would turn it around .


 
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pusbccfc

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #5
Grendel said:
The robins era has surely come to an end.

Robins as a manager is a curious character. He really has only ever achieved anything with difficult ownership structure.

He excelled at Rotherham under almost impossible circumstances and in his first stint here. He developed an affinity with Sepalla and Fisher. If we are being honest his one major achievement was League one promotion. League two was a poor season ending with a charitable referee and a fortunate outcome.

Yes we achieved the play offs mainly with the goals of Gyokeres, the resilience of Mcfazdean and the second half of the season when Hamer starting playing at a level beyond which he’d achieved at the start of the season.

The cracks were beginning to show last season. We achieved a huge points tally in the middle 23 games - around 45 points. We achieved 19 at the beginning and the end. O hare returned and definitely distorted the whole season. We had -around 19 points in the other 23 games.

The Sisu gang of players Robins was effective with have gone. His sidekick has gone. If the new coaches are poor that needs addressing for sure but it’s a modern day structure. Robins isn’t a modern day manager and he is looking bereft of ideas and motivation.


As the old dance The Gentleman’s Excuse me says - under Mark Robins we are now taking one step forward and then taking two steps back.

The fans are tired of this dancing and we are now finished dancing.

It’s time to exit stage left.
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Cannot argue with any of that.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #6
Evo1883 said:
You do , although usually it means a turnaround in form and I can't lie I've even been quite superstitious and thought about your threads recently and that this year you hadn't made one , mostly because your own superstition wanted to see if he would turn it around .


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Hope it turns around soon. We've only been awful for 9 months.
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #7
pusbccfc said:
Hope it turns around soon. We've only been awful for 9 months.
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Fans are even counting the 3 months close season now as part of our playing days ..

We really are fucked


So we've been awful since January? jesus christ that rough but also a lie
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #8
Evo1883 said:
Fans are even counting the 3 months close season now as part of our playing days ..

We really are fucked


So we've been awful since January? jesus christ that rough but also a lie
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plenty of lies around with the lynch mob.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #9
Evo1883 said:
You do , although usually it means a turnaround in form and I can't lie I've even been quite superstitious and thought about your threads recently and that this year you hadn't made one , mostly because your own superstition wanted to see if he would turn it around .


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I do think there is real significance that the old guard are now gone. His sidekick has gone and the owners he really had an affinity with are gone.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #10
Expecting a barnstorming performance at QPR on the back of this
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #11
Grendel said:
I do think there is real significance that the old guard are now gone. His sidekick has gone and the owners he really had an affinity with are gone.
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I think the significance of experience is being downplayed on this forum .. the same squad will face the same problems in the face of rough times whoever is in charge ..every team needs a couple of warriors
 
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Nick

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #12
Grendel said:
I do think there is real significance that the old guard are now gone. His sidekick has gone and the owners he really had an affinity with are gone.
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SISU IN
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #13
Evo1883 said:
Fans are even counting the 3 months close season now as part of our playing days ..

We really are fucked


So we've been awful since January? jesus christ that rough but also a lie
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Since Feb, we have been awful.

I've been trying my best to back the players and Robins but that run is indefensible.

Even the handful of wins, besides Leeds and maybe Blackburn, are against some real shite sides.
 
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Nick

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #14
Yep the form since the Leeds game has been shocking.
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #15
pusbccfc said:
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Since Feb, we have been awful.

I've been trying my best to back the players and Robins but that run is indefensible.

Even the handful of wins, besides Leeds and maybe Blackburn, are against some real shite sides.
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Since April 6th , with cup wins inbetween , how can you lie flat out when it's written down
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #16
Evo1883 said:
Since April 6th , with cup wins inbetween , how can you lie flat out when it's written down
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I'm talking about the league. I've regularly used the cup as a reason to support Robins and the players but it's worn so thin.

That run of results is horrendous. There's no defending that, even if you are trying to remain positive.
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #17
pusbccfc said:
I'm talking about the league. I've regularly used the cup as a reason to support Robins and the players but it's worn so thin.

That run of results is horrendous. There's no defending that, even if you are trying to remain positive.
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And in the league the bad form started on April 6th ? It's written down infront of you
 

CCFCBat

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #18
We do we realistically bring in, who is available and paying compensation for the out going manager and coaches will mean we can’t pay compensation for a new manager and possibly his coaching team


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pusbccfc

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #19
Evo1883 said:
And in the league the bad form started on April 6th ? It's written down infront of you
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Since April 6 the form is even worse but it started to dip at the end of Jan. We were very poor away at Plymouth and Stoke. We got lucky in both games.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #20
CCFCBat said:
We do we realistically bring in, who is available and paying compensation for the out going manager and coaches will mean we can’t pay compensation for a new manager and possibly his coaching team


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Let’s not forget that behind the well-rehearsed & prepared monologue, this is the person who was pushing for Kenny Jacket. Lots of posturing but no real idea what happens next.
 

CCFCBat

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #21
Ring Of Steel said:
Let’s not forget that behind the well-rehearsed & prepared monologue, this is the person who was pushing for Kenny Jacket. Lots of posturing but no real idea what happens next.
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Agreed, we need to remember we brought in Russell Slade and it got worse. I don’t see realistic candidates.


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Evo1883

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #22
pusbccfc said:
Since April 6 the form is even worse but it started to dip at the end of Jan. We were very poor away at Plymouth and Stoke. We got lucky in both games.
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We picked up just 19 points from 33 between February 1st and 6th April

1.73 a game .

We were in decent form
 
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Nick

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #23
Ring Of Steel said:
Let’s not forget that behind the well-rehearsed & prepared monologue, this is the person who was pushing for Kenny Jacket. Lots of posturing but no real idea what happens next.
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As opposed to no real idea in general?

Do you ever actually post anything that gives a view or is it just to make out others are lying?
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #24
Ring Of Steel said:
Let’s not forget that behind the well-rehearsed & prepared monologue, this is the person who was pushing for Kenny Jacket. Lots of posturing but no real idea what happens next.
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You really are a very strange man
 
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Nick

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #25
Evo1883 said:
We picked up just 19 points from 33 between February 1st and 6th April

1.73 a game .

We were in decent form
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Yeah you cant argue with that in March!
 

Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #26
Grendel said:
As the old dance The Gentleman’s Excuse me says - under Mark Robins we are now taking one step forward and then taking two steps back.
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I prefer the Paula Abdul version m8

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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #27
CCFCBat said:
Agreed, we need to remember we brought in Russell Slade and it got worse. I don’t see realistic candidates.


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That’s been said numerous times. Sunderland for instance went out and found a random French bloke who got relegated last season.

they’ve lost their best player but somehow the change of manager has worked wonders.

Leicester arguably should have sacked Brendan Rodgers sooner than they did despite winning the FA Cup

sometimes it’s just a change of idea and fresh principles that get the team going. Remember this team can perform. Someone needs to get that out of them.

there are some names out there that make you shudder, but given the route we’re going down - I’d put good money and it not being one of the usual suspects
 
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Diogenes

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #28
Evo1883 said:
I think the significance of experience is being downplayed on this forum .. the same squad will face the same problems in the face of rough times whoever is in charge ..every team needs a couple of warriors
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Are we reading the same forum? Lack of experience (and leadership) is mentioned on every single thread.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #29
So basically there’s an extenuating circumstance in all of Robins successses but he’s to blame for all of the stuff that’s gone wrong? Maybe things have run their course (I hope they haven’t) but at least let the guy have his achievements.
 
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Nick

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #30
Cally Fedora said:
So basically there’s an extenuating circumstance in all of Robins successses but he’s to blame for all of the stuff that’s gone wrong? Maybe things have run their course (I hope they haven’t) but at least let the guy have his achievements.
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Is anybody saying anything about not having achievements?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #31
Here’s the next 5 games:
QPR (A)
Luton (H)
Middlesbrough (A)
Derby (H)
Sunderland (A)

that takes us to the international break

We then play
Sheff Utd (H)
Burnley (A)
Cardiff (H)

realistically which game does the turnaround under Robins start?

the last 2 seasons we had similar starts - but we weren’t as bad performance wise as we have been this season.
 

Senior Vick from Alicante

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #32
Doug can't be that worried, he was in the crowd at the American football having a great time.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #33
Nick said:
Is anybody saying anything about not having achievements?
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Yes. All as a result of luck/circumstance apparently if you read the opening post.
 

Sky Blue Wozza

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #34
Grendel said:
You really are a very strange man
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Jamesimus

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  • Oct 20, 2024
  • #35
I might not agree but at least the OP puts forward a reasonably compelling argument, which some of the Robins outers fail to do.

I’m still in the give him some more time camp though.
 
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