A Football Stadium for a Football Club (2 Viewers)

[Deleted member 5849]

In all the talk of revenue streams, diversifying, anchor tenants and the like, the intangibles tend to get missed out.

That football stadiums are known by the roads around them, the journey to them, the heroes within them and the villains too.

These are the intangibles that go into making a football club, its identity, its being, its very essence.

And while in the modern age football clubs look for revenue it's worth remembering that within there, this can't be at the sacrifice of identity, where the football club is central to its home.

This is the problem with modern football, it becomes about sponsorship deals, the bottom line, the desire for a quick deal. And in that quest for the deal, the very essence of being, the brand value that allows those deals to happen, gets eroded.

A home for a team, a team for a home, and a central being that allows people to know who plays there, and where they play... that's for a better long term future.

For without identity, we are nothing.

 

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[ohitsaidwalker king power]

In all the talk of revenue streams, diversifying, anchor tenants and the like, the intangibles tend to get missed out.

That football stadiums are known by the roads around them, the journey to them, the heroes within them and the villains too.

These are the intangibles that go into making a football club, its identity, its being, its very essence.

And while in the modern age football clubs look for revenue it's worth remembering that within there, this can't be at the sacrifice of identity, where the football club is central to its home.

This is the problem with modern football, it becomes about sponsorship deals, the bottom line, the desire for a quick deal. And in that quest for the deal, the very essence of being, the brand value that allows those deals to happen, gets eroded.

A home for a team, a team for a home, and a central being that allows people to know who plays there, and where they play... that's for a better long term future.

For without identity, we are nothing.

Not being in Coventry is our greatest identity faux pas
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[Deleted member 5849]

Not being in Coventry is our greatest identity faux pas
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On the contrary, this could be the greatest focussing on our identity in the recent past.

Instead of the ever decreasing circles, the crisis followed by crisis, the talk of good business sense, ruthless chairmaen, good player investments and recenue streams of a stadium, the talk can be of home, location, location, location.

What we are.

If we allow it to be.

And that means rejecting the discourse set up for us surrounding the finances, and instead embrace Heimat.

 

[ohitsaidwalker king power]

On the contrary, this could be the greatest focussing on our identity in the recent past.

Instead of the ever decreasing circles, the crisis followed by crisis, the talk of good business sense, ruthless chairmaen, good player investments and recenue streams of a stadium, the talk can be of home, location, location, location.

What we are.

If we allow it to be.

And that means rejecting the discourse set up for us surrounding the finances, and instead embrace Heimat.

You lose me with your riddles NW. Sorry not being rude.
So you are saying that being out of Coventry is a good thing for our identity?

 

[RFC]

The 'Football Club' factually have always been 2nd, 3rd or even FOURTH BEST @ the Ricoh IMHO!

 

[Deleted member 5849]

You lose me with your riddles NW. Sorry not being rude.
So you are saying that being out of Coventry is a good thing for our identity?

No riddles, but we buy into talk of hedge funds, we buy into talk of property developers.

We buy into talk of stadium management companies.

What we also buy into is pictures of home.

And if the move allows us to recognise the last is more important than the first then yes, it's a 'good' thing.

If, however, we allow ourselves to continue to be carried blindly along by talk of investment, returns, debt restructuring and the opportunity for increasing revenue.

We lose.

Part of the reason our identity has been eroded over the past 20 years is it's become about the money rather than about the club. it's been chasing a dream and forgetting that, at the end of the day, a club is about its community, its heritage, its tradition... and people have tried to monetise that and in doing so, have indeed done that to an extent, but also tarnished its very being.

 

[ohitsaidwalker king power]

No riddles, but we buy into talk of hedge funds, we buy into talk of property developers.

We buy into talk of stadium management companies.

What we also buy into is pictures of home.

And if the move allows us to recognise the last is more important than the first then yes, it's a good thing.

If, however, we allow ourselves to continue to be carried blindly along by talk of investment, returns, debt restructuring and the opportunity for increasing revenue.

We lose.

Dont deny the evil face of commerce and greed rules football... sorry irrespective dont agree any circumstance defines the need for a football club playing outside of its City(home)
PS...makes me a hypocrite as I subscribe to Murdochs evil empire.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Dont deny the evil face of commerce and greed rules football... sorry irrespective dont agree any circumstance defines the need for a football club playing outside of its City(home)
PS...makes me a hypocrite as I subscribe to Murdochs evil empire.

What's done is done.

What is yet to be done is the future.

 

[mrbluesky87]

The 'Football Club' factually have always been 2nd, 3rd or even FOURTH BEST @ the Ricoh IMHO!

And let's hope when CCFC return to the Ricoh, you dont:wave:.

 

[ohitsaidwalker king power]

What's done is done.

What is yet to be done is the future.

Forget the past?...... now where would mankind be if we didnt learn lessons?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Forget the past?...... now where would mankind be if we didnt learn lessons?

Who said forget the past?!?

The very essence of warning of the dangers of speaking of good business sense is talking of the past!

 

[DazzleTommyDazzle]

Forget the past?...... now where would mankind be if we didnt learn lessons?

In Northampton?

 

[ohitsaidwalker king power]

Riddles.. like I suggested...

 

[DaleM]

The 'Football Club' factually have always been 2nd, 3rd or even FOURTH BEST @ the Ricoh IMHO!

WTF are you going on about ? You do not make sense.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Well the football club have certainly never been central to the Ricoh.

Call it McGinnity's fault, call it whoever's, but until Fletcher put the CCFC badge up one night, you'd have never known a football club played there.

 

[italiahorse]

The 'Football Club' factually have always been 2nd, 3rd or even FOURTH BEST @ the Ricoh IMHO!

So when they come back next month you can do us all a favour and stay at Sixfields.

Fans make grounds.

 

[Spionkop]

Norman, are you on drugs tonight?

 

[blueflint]

The 'Football Club' factually have always been 2nd, 3rd or even FOURTH BEST @ the Ricoh IMHO!

what is your problem you never actually agree with anyone there was never anything wrong with the ricoh

 

[letsallsingtogether]

But now we are second class citizens to Northampton Town we even have to move over to let them play just in case they don't let us have the ball back

The 'Football Club' factually have always been 2nd, 3rd or even FOURTH BEST @ the Ricoh IMHO!

 

[Spionkop]

Erik Samuelson, CEO of Wimbledon FC - talking today (on BBC) about his club and their hope of building a new stadium back in Wimbledon.

"Most stadiums generally take a timeframe of about 10 years, from first stumbling attempts to do something up to the day when you open them.

"We have been working on this for five or six years and that is not a bad assessment of where we are. There is a long way to go."

 

[Spionkop]

I've got to add, like most fans, I don't believe SISU will ever build a stadium.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Norman, are you on drugs tonight?

I'd have thought you'd be all for a refocussing on the club rather than the business?

 

[Skybluepiglet]

This is my opinion.........There is NOT gonna be a New stadium.

SISU will keep trying to get the Ricoh.

We will not return this season.

We could become a "Franchise"...CLUB..AND OTHERS WILL FOLLOW.

 

[Astute]

Call it McGinnity's fault, call it whoever's, but until Fletcher put the CCFC badge up one night, you'd have never known a football club played there.

Do they?

 

[Spionkop]

Norman, actually your opening post cheered me. And I agreed with it. The emergence of Sky has done so much damage to English football. Created an army of football fans who rarely go to games. Where as you say, football revolves around money, sponsorship, naming rights, shirts and the selling of, undisclosed transfer fees, saturation tv coverage. Brian Clough famously said he wouldn't allow tv cameras into Forest if he had his way. etc. etc. Instead of, as you say, identity and community.
You would hardly know the Ricoh was our ground from the outside -you're right.
We pray the Trust mediation works. But I truly believe Sisu are utterly ruthless and will try and chip away to get the stadium in some shape or form for almost nothing. Sadly my take is that they have alienated a percentage of the support so much they won't come back until they've gone. They are really the worst owners of a football club ever, anywhere.
We are no longer, as Sir Jimmy Hill once said, a team and a city.

 

[jesus-wept]

Norman, actually your opening post cheered me. And I agreed with it. The emergence of Sky has done so much damage to English football. Created an army of football fans who rarely go to games. Where as you say, football revolves around money, sponsorship, naming rights, shirts and the selling of, undisclosed transfer fees, saturation tv coverage. Brian Clough famously said he wouldn't allow tv cameras into Forest if he had his way. etc. etc. Instead of, as you say, identity and community.
They are really the worst owners of a football club ever, anywhere.
We are no longer, as Sir Jimmy Hill once said, a team and a city.

As you say they have been terrible owners of a football club, I am referring to the football side of things. The politics surrounding the ground issue seems to have masked the way since sisu got involved with the football side of the club we have gone down to such an extent we are now second bottom in the third division, okay the points deduction is the reason for that, we have just 5 what is called senior players and still under an embargo. The sisu policy of sell big, buy cheap from a football point of view simply hasn't worked