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  • Thread starter Oggies bent nose
  • Start date Dec 21, 2013
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Oggies bent nose

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  • Dec 21, 2013
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It's the Saturday before Christmas I've had a couple of beers after finishing my Christmas shopping and I got to thinking, what if instead of spunking say £25mllion on a new stadium and continued losses at the sixpence shed sisu offered that money to the council for the Ricoh and the whole shooting match. Simple, once again apologies but I have been drinking and will continue do so.
 
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mighty quinn

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  • Dec 21, 2013
  • #2
That would be the right thing to do.so sisue won't do it
 
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Snozz_is_god

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  • Dec 21, 2013
  • #3
mighty quinn said:
That would be the right thing to do.so sisue won't do it
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The won't do it, because they aren't going to spend that type of money, on the Ricoh or a New Ground
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

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  • Dec 21, 2013
  • #4
Why would you spend £25m on a 32,000 seater stadium, when for the same money you could get a 12,000 seater that you might be able to expand up to 23,000 at some unspecified time in the future?
 

robbieray

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  • Dec 21, 2013
  • #5
Have another beer forget about this shit till after xmas
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Dec 21, 2013
  • #6
robbieray said:
Have another beer forget about this shit till after xmas
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Which Christmas would that be
 

robbieray

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  • Dec 21, 2013
  • #7
Bet Joy will be having an nice xmas in a big house somewhere
 
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ecky

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  • Dec 21, 2013
  • #8
Yeah no conscience either
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Dec 21, 2013
  • #9
Well, forgive me for this but if it's crazy ideas you want. For £10 a week each commitment from the masses (estimated 10k) NOT going to sickfields - that'd result in £5.2m a year. Already enough with a proper structured organisation to gain a loan to buy the ruddy Ricoh ourselves. £26m over 5yrs...even without interest. By the time the Ricoh is in new hands SISU would likely be ready to part with CCFC to cut losses for which the Ricoh asset would serve as a lever for a further loan to buy CCFC too in 4yrs time...what on earth is stopping us??? Egos? Know-how? Confidence? Fear? What???
 
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Gary.j

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  • Dec 21, 2013
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SkyblueBazza said:
Well, forgive me for this but if it's crazy ideas you want. For £10 a week each commitment from the masses (estimated 10k) NOT going to sickfields - that'd result in £5.2m a year. Already enough with a proper structured organisation to gain a loan to buy the ruddy Ricoh ourselves. £26m over 5yrs...even without interest. By the time the Ricoh is in new hands SISU would likely be ready to part with CCFC to cut losses for which the Ricoh asset would serve as a lever for a further loan to buy CCFC too in 4yrs time...what on earth is stopping us??? Egos? Know-how? Confidence? Fear? What???
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And we have a winner! I'm in!
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 21, 2013
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SkyblueBazza said:
Well, forgive me for this but if it's crazy ideas you want. For £10 a week each commitment from the masses (estimated 10k) NOT going to sickfields - that'd result in £5.2m a year. Already enough with a proper structured organisation to gain a loan to buy the ruddy Ricoh ourselves. £26m over 5yrs...even without interest. By the time the Ricoh is in new hands SISU would likely be ready to part with CCFC to cut losses for which the Ricoh asset would serve as a lever for a further loan to buy CCFC too in 4yrs time...what on earth is stopping us??? Egos? Know-how? Confidence? Fear? What???
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Um, most fans having £10/week disposable income?
 

Samo

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  • Dec 21, 2013
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SkyblueBazza said:
Well, forgive me for this but if it's crazy ideas you want. For £10 a week each commitment from the masses (estimated 10k) NOT going to sickfields - that'd result in £5.2m a year. Already enough with a proper structured organisation to gain a loan to buy the ruddy Ricoh ourselves. £26m over 5yrs...even without interest. By the time the Ricoh is in new hands SISU would likely be ready to part with CCFC to cut losses for which the Ricoh asset would serve as a lever for a further loan to buy CCFC too in 4yrs time...what on earth is stopping us??? Egos? Know-how? Confidence? Fear? What???
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I'm in. £10 per week from me, go find the others!
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Dec 21, 2013
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shmmeee said:
Um, most fans having £10/week disposable income?
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There are about 10k missing from home games...call it £20 a home (Ricoh) match spend on average...23 home games plus cups & you get around 26 games a season. That equates to exactly the same at £10/wk.
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 21, 2013
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SkyblueBazza said:
There are about 10k missing from home games...call it £20 a home (Ricoh) match spend on average...23 home games plus cups & you get around 26 games a season. That equates to exactly the same at £10/wk.
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I spent £300/year on my season ticket, I wouldn't be able to increase that to £520/year before I've even bought tickets (unless you're giving free tickets to those on this scheme, in which case how is it making us money?)
 

steveo1987

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  • Dec 21, 2013
  • #15
Great idea, £30 a week raised . drinks all round
 

Hobo

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  • Dec 21, 2013
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Oggies bent nose said:
It's the Saturday before Christmas I've had a couple of beers after finishing my Christmas shopping and I got to thinking, what if instead of spunking say £25mllion on a new stadium and continued losses at the sixpence shed sisu offered that money to the council for the Ricoh and the whole shooting match. Simple, once again apologies but I have been drinking and will continue do so.
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Do you only think straight when you are pissed? Or am I never sober?
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Dec 21, 2013
  • #17
shmmeee said:
I spent £300/year on my season ticket, I wouldn't be able to increase that to £520/year before I've even bought tickets (unless you're giving free tickets to those on this scheme, in which case how is it making us money?)
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But for the next 5yrs none of the ex-season ticket holders, nor any other of the missing 10k are spending any money (average £20/Ricoh game) - so that first yr £5.2m raised, total over 5yrs is £26m. Once club & ground are united once more...everyone starts afresh. Effective management of both should lead to a situation where the debt CAN be serviced & the club CAN progress.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Dec 21, 2013
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Oh & the extra £220 equates to less than £10/Ricoh game for the much discussed pie & pint...& travel costs that you are also currently not spending.
Now, I know people are currently doing other stuff instead that might well cost money - but greater good & all that! Give up CCFC to play badminton (or whatever) at present...give up the badminton & strngthen support for the future of CCFC
 

steveo1987

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  • Dec 21, 2013
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SkyblueBazza said:
But for the next 5yrs none of the ex-season ticket holders, nor any other of the missing 10k are spending any money (average £20/Ricoh game) - so that first yr £5.2m raised, total over 5yrs is £26m. Once club & ground are united once more...everyone starts afresh. Effective management of both should lead to a situation where the debt CAN be serviced & the club CAN progress.
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Top trolling
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Dec 21, 2013
  • #20
steveo1987 said:
Top trolling
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= SISU may win & bleed us for yrs to come. That way fans definitely lose.
Otherwise we give ourselves a chance. We were talking crazy ideas - how many of those have turned into major successes throughout history?
Sounds like you have made your choice - loser!
 

steveo1987

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  • Dec 21, 2013
  • #21
SkyblueBazza said:
= SISU may win & bleed us for yrs to come. That way fans definitely lose.
Otherwise we give ourselves a chance.
Sounds like you have made your choice - loser!
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Top trolling pt2
 

steveo1987

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  • Dec 21, 2013
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SkyblueBazza said:
= SISU may win & bleed us for yrs to come. That way fans definitely lose.
Otherwise we give ourselves a chance. We were talking crazy ideas - how many of those have turned into major successes throughout history?
Sounds like you have made your choice - loser!
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Explain the choice bit
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Dec 21, 2013
  • #23
steveo1987 said:
Explain the choice bit
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You need explanation?
Your club has been stolen away. Your current options are: continue as is; trust those that stole it to bring it back (or thereabouts in some pale shadow of what it was); do something!
Your own £10/wk becomes investment in the club.
 

steveo1987

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  • Dec 21, 2013
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SkyblueBazza said:
You need explanation?
Your club has been stolen away. Your current options are: continue as is; trust those that stole it to bring it back (or thereabouts in some pale shadow of what it was); do something!
Your own £10/wk becomes investment in the club.
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I already do that with my season ticket.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Dec 22, 2013
  • #25
steveo1987 said:
I already do that with my season ticket.
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Which suggests you are not one of the missing 10k! You have a ST for sickfields so would by implication be following option one of the first two options.
The fact I needed to explain all of this says a lot (& I am not going into that!)
 

steveo1987

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  • Dec 22, 2013
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SkyblueBazza said:
Which suggests you are not one of the missing 10k! You have a ST for sickfields so would by implication be following option one of the first two options.
The fact I needed to explain all of this says a lot (& I am not going into that!)
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Chomp....
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Dec 22, 2013
  • #27
steveo1987 said:
Chomp....
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Chump
 

steveo1987

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  • Dec 22, 2013
  • #28
Champ......
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Dec 22, 2013
  • #29
steveo1987 said:
Champ......
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Chimp
 

steveo1987

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  • Dec 22, 2013
  • #30
Ha ha all too predictable.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Dec 22, 2013
  • #31
Because they will never spend the 35 million
( including loses over 5 years)
They hope to get the Ricoh for less than 10.

The council should call their bluff and say we will accept buds starting at 40 plus as the stadium is superior than the proposed one.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 22, 2013
  • #32
dongonzalos said:
Because they will never spend the 35 million
( including loses over 5 years)
They hope to get the Ricoh for less than 10.

The council should call their bluff and say we will accept buds starting at 40 plus as the stadium is superior than the proposed one.
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They wouldn't get any bids anywhere near that price so I can only conclude that you don't want them to sell to anyone.
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 22, 2013
  • #33
SkyblueBazza said:
But for the next 5yrs none of the ex-season ticket holders, nor any other of the missing 10k are spending any money (average £20/Ricoh game) - so that first yr £5.2m raised, total over 5yrs is £26m. Once club & ground are united once more...everyone starts afresh. Effective management of both should lead to a situation where the debt CAN be serviced & the club CAN progress.
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So, I'd be paying £10/month to not see City for 5 years?
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Dec 22, 2013
  • #34
shmmeee said:
So, I'd be paying £10/month to not see City for 5 years?
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No £10/week. You aren't going to be seeing them at HOME all that time (& quite possibly more) anyway, so what that would buy you is a stake in the Arena value & operating profit initially, & then the club dependent upon how long SISU MIGHT resist selling the club. 5yrs was a generous estimate.

I guess the major flaw could be that out of the missing 10k who rue the loss of their much loved club, only a small percentage are prepared to actually do something like putting real commitment in for fear of losing out.
Just as the title & my initial post said...a crazy idea...but from small acorns grow & all that.
 

skybluefred

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  • Dec 22, 2013
  • #35
So that would be forming a COOPERATIVE. Although you have been getting the usual snide comments from the sisu lovers,
this could just take off and become huge. We have supporters who are wealthy and if they got interested it could mushroom. We could become the first English Bayern Munich.

No doubt the usual few will mock this post--do I care--not one iota. This is the first constructive idea for we the fans
to attempt to rescue the Club--I just hope it snowballs.
 
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