A club with no fans (7 Viewers)

Jimmy Hill's Chin · May 26, 2013

That's exactly what we will be reduced to if SISU get their way and we move to Walsall. What players are going to want to play for this shell of a club? I would suspect even most of the remaining Academy players will be considering their prospects.

With the lowest home crowds in the league next season I can only see another relegation. Let's just hope the administrators and the authorities don't allow SISU to proceed with this nightmare vision.

italiahorse · May 26, 2013

When you sit back and assess the situation we had and what we will have in the interim and long term.

a/ 32,000 seater stadium in Coventry, 3.2 miles from Coventry City Centre. Ranked 18th biggest club stadium in English Football
b/ 11,000 seater stadium in Walsall, 28.6 miles from Coventry City Centre.
c/ 8,000 seater stadium in Warwickshire, minimum of 6 miles from Coventry City Centre. Ranked 85th biggest club stadium in English Football

Do we want this plan ?

Lord_Nampil · May 26, 2013

Has he actually said 8,000? I didn't hear that on the radio.... If true it makes the move even more barmy!

bigfatronssba · May 26, 2013

Last time an 8k ground was big enough for us was 1914 in the Southern League Division 2!

Shows the level of ambition he has for us.

italiahorse · May 26, 2013

Lord_Nampil said:
Has he actually said 8,000? I didn't hear that on the radio.... If true it makes the move even more barmy!

Its extendable later ................ :laugh:

stupot07 · May 26, 2013

32k is far too big for us. A nice little 20-22k would be best.

Sba180 · May 26, 2013

The situation is ridiculous. Can you imagine if we go and play at walsall and get them at 'home' first? We will play in front of a nigh on empty stadium if walsall fans boycott that game too. Then we play them away and we fill the away end. Surely someone from the club can see its an utter disaster

SkyblueBazza · May 26, 2013

italiahorse said:
Its extendable later ................ :laugh:

But did you hear him specifically say "8000 capacity stadium"?
This is what divides...people misinterpreting or mid hearing or twisting something - then others see/hear it & emotion kicks in & it snowballs out of all proportion. Then lots of people end up feeling more upbeat, or their anti-stance becomes more neutralised when they find out. By not stating the facts it works against your argument...ask TF!!!

SkyBlueUkeman · May 26, 2013

stupot07 said:
32k is far too big for us. A nice little 20-22k would be best.

It clearly isn't though. We were getting crowds of 26-27 thousand when we were on good runs in the championship.

stupot07 · May 26, 2013

SkyBlueUkeman said:
It clearly isn't though. We were getting crowds of 26-27 thousand when we were on good runs in the championship.

We had the odd crowd of 26-27k usually against brum, wba, etc and that's because they brought 5-6k fans, our best average attendance in the Ricoh was 21,301(66% full). Would make tickets more exclusive for big games so that more people would get seasons tickets for not wanting to miss a big game. Better to have it 85-95% full all season, than 50-55% full for all bar 2-3 games.

pusbccfc · May 26, 2013

22k isn't big enough.

The size of the club would double if we managed to survive a year in the prem.

Look at Stoke, they were getting crowds of 9-12k the year before promotion.
Now they manage an average of 27k (sell outs) every week.

SkyBlueUkeman · May 26, 2013

stupot07 said:
We had the odd crowd of 26-27k usually against brum, wba, etc and that's because they brought 5-6k fans, our best average attendance in the Ricoh was 21,301(66% full). Would make tickets more exclusive for big games so that more people would get seasons tickets for not wanting to miss a big game. Better to have it 85-95% full all season, than 50-55% full for all bar 2-3 games.

True, but when you got shoes as a kid, my ma would always make sure there was growing room. If with a bit of luck the tides did turn we'd Be better for it. Why waste money expanding a stadium when there is a perfectly good stadium down the road.

Add to that, after all this Ricoh crap I've sort of grown quite fond of it.

stupot07 · May 26, 2013

Then they would tail off, when we're struggling, not spending ££££m on players and looking at relegation.

stupot07 · May 26, 2013

SkyBlueUkeman said:
True, but when you got shoes as a kid, my ma would always make sure there was growing room. If with a bit of luck the tides did turn we'd Be better for it. Why waste money expanding a stadium when there is a perfectly good stadium down the road.

Add to that, after all this Ricoh crap I've sort of grown quite fond of it.

Not saying we should build another stadium, I also like the Ricoh. It's just too big for us.

italiahorse · May 26, 2013

stupot07 said:
Not saying we should build another stadium, I also like the Ricoh. It's just too big for us.

Obviously it is in Division 1, but where do you want to be?
Surely with a team in the Premier League it will be perfect.
Where are we trying to get too? Where do you want to be ?

stupot07 · May 26, 2013

italiahorse said:
Obviously it is in Division 1, but where do you want to be?
Surely with a team in the Premier League it will be perfect.
Where are we trying to get too? Where do you want to be ?

Of course you are right, perhaps we should build a 70k stadium as I'd quite like champions league football.

North York’s Blue · May 26, 2013

It was Linnell that said 8k, Fisher is looking at 18-20k as a starting point

percy · May 26, 2013

stupot07 said:
Of course you are right, perhaps we should build a 70k stadium as I'd quite like champions league football.

There's always one !!!

the rumpo kid · May 26, 2013

more like fans with no club

SkyBlueUkeman · May 26, 2013

stupot07 said:
Of course you are right, perhaps we should build a 70k stadium as I'd quite like champions league football.

That's a daft argument.

Sky Blues · May 26, 2013

Lord_Nampil said:
Has he actually said 8,000? I didn't hear that on the radio.... If true it makes the move even more barmy!

Linnell said 8,000 and Fisher did not correct him...

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · May 26, 2013

stupot07 said:
Of course you are right, perhaps we should build a 70k stadium as I'd quite like champions league football.

Funily enough thats what happened to Bayern in the 70s up till then most people in Munich supported 1860 you could be onto something there:thinking about:

Nonleagueherewecome · May 26, 2013

stupot07 said:
32k is far too big for us. A nice little 20-22k would be best.

Then you would be capping the clubs potential as Championship level at the best. That's the worst thing about this whole new stadium idea: The Ricoh is made for Premiership football, and I for one have not given up on returning to that level. If we're deciding that we are a L1 club who may be in L2 soon, it is halving the potential size of the club. We will no longer be a big club in the lower leagues with the potential to rise again: we will be an average L1/L2 club at best.

Nonleagueherewecome · May 26, 2013

stupot07 said:
Not saying we should build another stadium, I also like the Ricoh. It's just too big for us.

It isn't: it's too big for where we are now. This is the first time we've been at such a low level for a very long time, you know?

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · May 26, 2013

Nonleagueherewecome said:
It isn't: it's too big for where we are now. This is the first time we've been at such a low level for a very long time, you know?

Long way to go yet with Timmys' vision

grego_gee · May 26, 2013

italiahorse said:
When you sit back and assess the situation we had and what we will have in the interim and long term.

a/ 32,000 seater stadium in Coventry, 3.2 miles from Coventry City Centre. Ranked 18th biggest club stadium in English Football
b/ 11,000 seater stadium in Walsall, 28.6 miles from Coventry City Centre.
c/ 8,000 seater stadium in Warwickshire, minimum of 6 miles from Coventry City Centre. Ranked 85th biggest club stadium in English Football

Do we want this plan ?

We should be able to buy just the pitch & stands at the Ricoh for £30,000,000

But the Council won't sell it! And SISU don't want to rent it!

imp:

italiahorse · May 26, 2013

stupot07 said:
Of course you are right, perhaps we should build a 70k stadium as I'd quite like champions league football.

8k and happy. Good luck.

italiahorse · May 26, 2013

grego_gee said:
We should be able to buy just the pitch & stands at the Ricoh for £30,000,

But the Council won't sell it! And SISU don't want to rent it!

imp:

What is just the stadium worth? A line drawn through the arcade and car parking rights for football.

wingy · May 26, 2013

italiahorse said:
8k and happy. Good luck.

I think you mean millions Greggo , £40M. should be enough but I fear they don't want just the Pitch .
You know I take that back, £30M. should be enough but I still think thats not what they're after.

Edit;- sorry wrong Quote.:facepalm:

pusbccfc · May 26, 2013

italiahorse said:
What is just the stadium worth? A line drawn through the arcade and car parking rights for football.

Well the Stadium costs £120mill?

£60mill?

stupot07 · May 26, 2013

Nonleagueherewecome said:
It isn't: it's too big for where we are now. This is the first time we've been at such a low level for a very long time, you know?

True, but our best average attendance was only 66% full. 32k is too big for us in league one and in the championship. We're never gonna be a long standing top flight side.

How bigs swanseas ground? 20.5k? They seem to be doing alright.

stupot07 · May 26, 2013

italiahorse said:
8k and happy. Good luck.

I don't want another ground. Just pointing out the Ricoh is too big for us for league one and in te championship.

Having the 18th biggest stadium doesn't guarantee PL football, what's Leeds 40k?

We've had loads of posts saying tape off the top 15 rows, close stands, etc to get an atmosphere.
20-22k like highfield road would have been perfect, Norwich sell so many season tickets because fans don't want to miss out, even in the PL our fans will say never mind, can I pay on the gate?

grego_gee · May 26, 2013

wingy said:
I think you mean millions Greggo , £40M. should be enough but I fear they don't want just the Pitch .
You know I take that back, £30M. should be enough but I still think thats not what they're after.

Edit;- sorry wrong Quote.:facepalm:

yeh ur rite, sorry typo mean £30m I'll go back and edit it.

The Ricoh final account was something like £115m

but two factors make this build cost more than many surrounding stadiums Stoke, Leicester etc.

the ancilary accomodation (casino, exhibition spaces etc)
The decontamination costs

I think the decontamination costs were in the order of £50m

It was a gas works and really the gas company should have cleared up its own mess!

imp:

chiefdave · May 26, 2013

why is everyone saying an 8K stadium is too small, I thought noone was going anymore?!

Sick Boy · May 26, 2013

pusbccfc said:
22k isn't big enough.

The size of the club would double if we managed to survive a year in the prem.

Look at Stoke, they were getting crowds of 9-12k the year before promotion.
Now they manage an average of 27k (sell outs) every week.

I can remember us playing in front of less than 11,000 for the opening game of the 1994 season at HR. In the next home game against our 'biggest rivals', Villa, we got just over 12,000. The notion that we would sustain crowds of 40,000 in the PL is laughable.

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