Nick
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So you have observed they have posted in the last couple of weeks rather than months and have been reading threads? Course!
If it had worked it would have been good
So you have observed they have posted in the last couple of weeks rather than months and have been reading threads? Course!Basing what on? Pure observation mate nothing more.
So you have observed they have posted in the last couple of weeks rather than months and have been reading threads? Course!
If it had worked it would have been good
Yes, because fans haven't over and over again said the academy is the lifeblood either have they?
If the club starts up as AFC Coventry than I'd be done with football, everybody will be saying "Yeah I will be 100% behind it" until they realise they are playing Chasetown Away on a Tuesday night.
I also don't see the logic in when people are saying they want to kill the club off rather than rot away in leagues 1 or 2 that has been said, the ambition of a new team would be to reach the football league.
Everybody is saying they want an upward curve and success etc, doesn't everybody? Surely jumping off to go and support a different team who will win games week in week out in non league is not far off jumping off to go and support Leicester?
It only works if the humour isn't on par with Miranda though..Get a sense of humour Nick... Isn't that what some people say?
Moff saw what I was doing, chill out for Gods sake.
Having someone come in with deep pockets would be nice. So would having someone on the board with connections to the city, who knows our club and it's history and who knows what it has been like for the past 15 years. However, even if the new owners still had to rely on money generated by the club itself I would not complain so long as everything that they did was honest, transparent and for the good of the club and that they communicate. Having a fan on the board would be good, maybe someone from the Trust or even someone elected by members and season ticket holders.
Having caught the tail end of the JH era, I think we need a board who would be dynamic, who would do everything to bring the club to the attention of the people of Coventry and Warwickshire for all the right reasons. Winning, entertaining football would help but so would ideas that would bring club and community together. We need to generate a lot more funds, something that Sisu seem to have no idea how do do or have completely given up on. A bigger turnover should produce a bigger profit to be ploughed back into the team.
You would think that with Sisu gone, all of the other players in our scenario would be a lot more sympathetic to our plight and would hopefully, go out of their way to help. Doors that are firmly shut at the moment would surely now be open. Initially a longer term deal with Wasps would be needed which would allow time to stabilise and recover from the last few years. We would need to look like a professional sports team again with a proper infrastructure, ticketing and phone system that works, a ticket office and shop at the stadium and a web site that is kept up to date.
On a personal note I would hope for an improvement in the match day experience Where home fans can sit behind both goals. Perhaps initially the upper tier could be closed so that only the bottom half is filled. Although the atmosphere was better last season with fans close together, the cynic in me says that Waggott closed the North Stand to save money rather than for atmospheric reasons. It is on issues like this that a new owner can get people on side, by canvassing views and acting upon them where possible.
A choice between no Sky Blues and new Sky Blues would be an easy one for me to make. Nine years is all it took for AFC to recover their league place. Arguably they are far stronger than they were before because of all that they have been through.
I liked the comment Stuart Pearce made on Talksport, "fans are the lifeblood" of the club.. correct, as opposed to that guy Les Reid that says the Academy is the lifeblood, someone missed the point there.
With that in mind, what's your view on those fans who believe that NOPM is for the good of the club?
I think the acid test would be whether it 'felt' like our club and I doubt it would. AFC Wimbledon was the fans invention and they drove that which would be something I could support on that basis, Rangers being another example is the same club whether anyone likes it or not.We'll see how this goes down...
Anyway, the owners before SISU bear a very great responsibility for SISU being here. The asset stripping and leaving a club with no assets bar a training ground meant we were vulnerable only to the type of entity that values high risk for high return. With that having failed, and the infrastructure of the club even further depressed, then it's hard to argue that we're any more appealing now.
Also, with no assets we're stuck in a bind of ever decreasing circles. To my mind, oblivion is inevitable... be it next year or after false dawns, after a decade.
Also, the club now is Otium Entertainment Group, trading as Coventry City FC. It is not the Coventry City that existed for many years prior to that, it's a sleight of hand that calls it that.
With that in mind, and if bankruptcy is inevitable... shouldn't we welcome that when it comes, in order to get it over with quicker, and then begin the rebuilding from scratch? This is not to welcome bankruptcy btw, for the over-emotional. It's to accept that this is the path we're heading, and have been inevitably heading since McGinnity and Robinson began to sell off the family silver with no consideration of how to regain it. Chinese water torture, or lethal injection, as it were, are the choices I see. I'd head to Dignitas every time myself.
If there is a way out of bankruptcy, can somebody reassure me we have something more valuable than a league share, that overcomes the structure of the club? To my mind, the league share can be regained in time... although that's not to trivialise it, and not to accept that it might take the decade to regain.
However, better to start the recovery process now, than after more fading into oblivion, and more decline? At least now *some* care?
Or... am I being too negative about the inevitability of oblivion? Tell me why... give me a reason to suggest this can be turned around at some stage.
Be very interested to know how much the likes of AFC Wimbledon and FC Manchester fans have enjoyed their rise from the back of beyond.I think the acid test would be whether it 'felt' like our club and I doubt it would. AFC Wimbledon was the fans invention and they drove that which would be something I could support on that basis, Rangers being another example is the same club whether anyone likes it or not.
My support is waining at the moment, this might kill it off for me.
I think the acid test would be whether it 'felt' like our club and I doubt it would. AFC Wimbledon was the fans invention and they drove that which would be something I could support on that basis, Rangers being another example is the same club whether anyone likes it or not.
My support is waining at the moment, this might kill it off for me.
Not our club. I watch Nuneaton sometimes and am pleased when they do well but don't really support them as they are not Coventry City.There is also the assumption that any new club would be winning every week.
If I wanted to support a club that wasn't CCFC winning every week I am sure there are plenty to choose from surely?
People moan about lack of ambition, but then say how good it must be to be winning every week, but with the ambition to get to the football league. It doesn't make sense.
Why not just support cov Utd now then?
As has already been said, not our club.There is also the assumption that any new club would be winning every week.
If I wanted to support a club that wasn't CCFC winning every week I am sure there are plenty to choose from surely?
People moan about lack of ambition, but then say how good it must be to be winning every week, but with the ambition to get to the football league. It doesn't make sense.
Why not just support cov Utd now then?
It only works if the humour isn't on par with Miranda though..
It wouldn't be Coventry city though would it? If it was then I'd agree with you. If it was afc Coventry it would be no different than cov utd or cov sphinx.As has already been said, not our club.
A new AFC Coventry City would very much be our club and would feel like the same club, just at a much lower level.
Haven't spoken to Wimbledon fans, but I bet they all say AFC Wimbledon IS still the same Wimbledon club of yesteryear.
I can take it, I'm just pointing out it's not really funny. If it was id like it, like I do when it's funnyGive out the advice but can't take it.... "Tongue in cheek" Remember?
I can take it, I'm just pointing out it's not really funny. If it was id like it, like I do when it's funny
No, it's not funny because rfc has still been posting so it's not a co incidence.It's not funny because you say it isn't...ok.
Why wouldn't it? It might have AFC in front of the name but that would be the only difference. Not the first or most radical name change in our history ( Singers FC to Coventry City). We would still play in sky blue, still have the sky blue song, still play in Coventry hopefully, still get beat when you think we are sure to win. More importantly we would still have the same fans and no Sisu.It wouldn't be Coventry city though would it? If it was then I'd agree with you.
We could just go and watch sphinx and sing pusb surely?Why wouldn't it? It might have AFC in front of the name but that would be the only difference. Not the first of most radical name change in our history ( Singers FC to Coventry City). We would still play in sky blue, still have the sky blue song, still play in Coventry hopefully, still get beat when you think we are sure to win. More importantly we would still have the same fans and no Sisu.
Yes, as Miranda may be to someIt was funny as fook... Moff laughed anyway.
I think a lot might well start following Utd, once they move to the butts, the wayThere is also the assumption that any new club would be winning every week.
If I wanted to support a club that wasn't CCFC winning every week I am sure there are plenty to choose from surely?
People moan about lack of ambition, but then say how good it must be to be winning every week, but with the ambition to get to the football league. It doesn't make sense.
Why not just support cov Utd now then?
And fair play to them if they are, it just wouldn't be ccfcI think a lot might well start following Utd, once they move to the butts, the way
Things are playing out they could well be the biggest football club in the city in
The not too distant future.
We could just go and watch sphinx and sing pusb surely?
It wouldn't be the same club as it wouldn't be the one I grew up with, it wouldn't be the one through generations of family.
There would be no 1987, no Jimmy hill...
Don't get that logic, Nick I'm afraid. It would very much be our club and the same club.It wouldn't be Coventry city though would it? If it was then I'd agree with you. If it was afc Coventry it would be no different than cov utd or cov sphinx.
It wouldn't, it would be a new club. It wouldn't have the memories, the tradition.Don't get that logic, Nick I'm afraid. It would very much be our club and the same club.
Cov United and Cov Sphinx are clubs in their own right. A new Coventry City club would rise from the ashes of Coventry City FC. Quite a different proposition entirely, surely?
A new Coventry City would be a direct replacement for Coventry City FC.
It wouldn't, it would be a new club. It wouldn't have the memories, the tradition.
If we had gone bust then cov utd would have been at the time.
Then I'm done with football. The same as I don't support sphinx because they play in sky blue in Coventry.So what happens if CCFC ceases to exist at the end of this season? Do you just accept that they’re gone forever when a new club is formed in Coventry playing in sky blue?
No I agree Nick, as I've already said if CCFC go to the wall my interest would go with them, as you say itAnd fair play to them if they are, it just wouldn't be ccfc
Not in any of our lifetimes.You know what really makes me laugh though... You are all saying it wouldn't be Coventry City FC. We were f**king Singers FC first!
But Nick , is Chasetown away on a Tuesday night any different to say Bury or Rochdale. I go to see my team and my team only , personally I don't give two hoots to who the opposition are.Yes, because fans haven't over and over again said the academy is the lifeblood either have they?
If the club starts up as AFC Coventry than I'd be done with football, everybody will be saying "Yeah I will be 100% behind it" until they realise they are playing Chasetown Away on a Tuesday night.
I also don't see the logic in when people are saying they want to kill the club off rather than rot away in leagues 1 or 2 that has been said, the ambition of a new team would be to reach the football league.
Everybody is saying they want an upward curve and success etc, doesn't everybody? Surely jumping off to go and support a different team who will win games week in week out in non league is not far off jumping off to go and support Leicester?
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