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48 hours away from expulsion / New Ricoh Talks! (1 Viewer)

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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #281
ajsccfc said:
Is it the same guy as 'Liesreid'? Notice that account's suddenly been awfully prolific just as Fisherbaiter is suspended. Emphasis on awful
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No, that's Fisherbaiter. He is his ex fellow Cov Utd Ladies director and a Sky Blue Trust board member.
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #282
The discussions about any licence extension are between Wasps and Coventry City FC and so we would not comment on those talks.

However, we have always stated that we would ideally like to see the Sky Blues continue to play in Coventry at the Ricoh Arena.

The greatest council in the country has spoken:smuggrin:
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #283
I have not seen the 1year piece but surely 1year is no good to either party .It will take 3 or 4 years to build this Stadium( ha ha) meaning we would have the same shit next year No sponsor would want to commit to a naming rights knowing that in another year we could be gone.I still think like i have been saying a deal to take a stake in the Stadium is the best way forward obviously talks on that would have to reflect the financial situation of the current deal. IF we did try to go it alone on the Stadium we would not have the likes of a hotel and a Casino to help keep it going.I think a deal of 10 years is what we shoud be aiming for.
 

IrishSkyBlue

Facebook User
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #284
So say we get another 1 year deal, whats next tho will this go back around to sisu and the council about getting land for new stadium. this is where if sisu want fans on their side are transparent about really trying get a new stadium built with their dealings with ccc, if they keep just pissing around get extensions whats the point might aswell jsut sell and go!
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #285
Hopefully a one-year rolling deal. Sort out land for a new stadium and leave Wasps to drown in their bond debt in 2022. Fingers crossed.
 
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olderskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #286
torchomatic said:
Haha, deluded. I think it has more to do with a general change of attitude amongst CCFC fans - not the lot in your echo chamber obviously. The song on Good Friday showed, for the first time, how CCFC fans are feeling about the protagonists.
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Wow, if only we had known years ago that all we had to do was sing about the council too and everything would have been alright.

It has sweet FA to do with the Trust or the fans.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #287
olderskyblue said:
Wow, if only we had known years ago that all we had to do was sing about the council too and everything would have been alright.

It has sweet FA to do with the Trust or the fans.
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I agree, but don't tell the Jimmy Hill Way that.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #288
olderskyblue said:
Wow, if only we had known years ago that all we had to do was sing about the council too and everything would have been alright.

It has sweet FA to do with the Trust or the fans.
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The tide was turning and posters like you weren't very happy about it and you still aren't. The Trust and JHW have done ZERO, absolutely NOTHING to further talks between the two sides.

Suck it up.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #289
SkyBlueDom26 said:
However, we have always stated that we would ideally like to see the Sky Blues continue to play in Coventry at the Ricoh Arena.
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The phrase actions speak louder than words springs to mind.
 
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Great_Expectations

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #290
Considering the circumstances and how late in the day we are, not sure how anyone can be disappointed with one year.

It might not be beneficial long term, but it gives us another year to either negotiate for a longer term agreement, discuss potential new ground sites or sell to a new owner. However unlikely some of those are. Plus, we can watch Wasps suffer even further on and off the pitch, enhancing our bargaining position even further while still being at the Ricoh.

But most importantly we have another year in Coventry which allows MR to strengthen us further over the summer without the disaster of a ground share or potential explusion.
 
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Great_Expectations

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #291
SkyBlueDom26 said:
The discussions about any licence extension are between Wasps and Coventry City FC and so we would not comment on those talks.

However, we have always stated that we would ideally like to see the Sky Blues continue to play in Coventry at the Ricoh Arena.

The greatest council in the country has spoken:smuggrin:
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There isn’t even that much wrong with that statement, but I still read it and think ‘Fuck off you corrupt, egotistical and immoral tossers’.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #292
Anybody listening to Gilbert on BBC C&W??

Says they can still go to European court with a separate case
 
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Buster

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #293
But surely we can give a little praise to the council for battering sisu in court that has lead to the Judge denying their case and so making way for the talks . I can get my season ticket and first dibs on aways . Whats not to like?
 

olderskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #294
torchomatic said:
The tide was turning and posters like you weren't very happy about it and you still aren't. The Trust and JHW have done ZERO, absolutely NOTHING to further talks between the two sides.

Suck it up.
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I didn't argue that they had, I argued that neither they, nor the fans, have had any impact on what SISU did or do next. Sorry, you'll have to wait to give yourself a pat on the back.
 

rockdude101

Active Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #295
As always last minute City save themselves from relegation/extinction/administration/etc...

I expect a deal to be done before Saturday, and yes I know it is Wednesday today.

Can we now start talking about transfer targets. We're clearly not that far away from a push into the automatics next season!
 

ceetee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #296
thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
I have not seen the 1year piece but surely 1year is no good to either party .It will take 3 or 4 years to build this Stadium( ha ha) meaning we would have the same shit next year No sponsor would want to commit to a naming rights knowing that in another year we could be gone.I still think like i have been saying a deal to take a stake in the Stadium is the best way forward obviously talks on that would have to reflect the financial situation of the current deal. IF we did try to go it alone on the Stadium we would not have the likes of a hotel and a Casino to help keep it going.I think a deal of 10 years is what we shoud be aiming for.
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You may or may not be right but all that you ask would be very difficult to agree in the timescale needed to satisfy every interested party.
I hope and presume that a one-year deal is just to secure next season and that the parties will continue to negotiate long term. Both sides might not even know what they want long term. Neither are interested in the fans in that respect
 

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #297
SkyBlueDom26 said:
The discussions about any licence extension are between Wasps and Coventry City FC and so we would not comment on those talks.

However, we have always stated that we would ideally like to see the Sky Blues continue to play in Coventry at the Ricoh Arena.

The greatest council in the country has spoken:smuggrin:
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"Ideally"? Blimey, that's a long way away from "we'd never do a deal that would harm the club", eh.

Ideally, the best thing the Council could do is to shut their holes before anyone notices what a mendacious shower of shite they are.
 
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Monners

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #298
duffer said:
"Ideallly"? Blimey, that's a long way away from "we'd never do a deal that would harm the club", eh.

Ideally, the best thing the Council could do is to shut their holes before anyone notices what a mendacious shower of shite they are.
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Top word Duffer
 
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covboy1987

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #299
This rumour about a one year deal has come from only one source Sky Twitter from reading all the comments - Why should they be believed? and why would they have more info than more prominent people closer to the club
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #300
I'd like to see it represented in the form of a share. Eg if we win the case it costs you £27m but we'll drop the legals if you give us 25% of the stadium and our own rights to F&B, parking etc. Probably wide of the mark, but I doubt they've gone in begging with cap in hand.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #301
Monners said:
Top word Duffer
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Yep. It's good to call the council a word that isn't four letters long.
 
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Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #302
covboy1987 said:
This rumour about a one year deal has come from only one source Sky Twitter from reading all the comments - Why should they be believed? and why would they have more info than more prominent people closer to the club
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Because we’re football fans and jump on small titbits of info and nobody else has said any different.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #303
Buster said:
But surely we can give a little praise to the council for battering sisu in court that has lead to the Judge denying their case and so making way for the talks . I can get my season ticket and first dibs on aways . Whats not to like?
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Hahahaha
 
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better days

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #304
covboy1987 said:
This rumour about a one year deal has come from only one source Sky Twitter from reading all the comments - Why should they be believed? and why would they have more info than more prominent people closer to the club
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Sky are normally a pretty good source
They have extensive contacts within the game at all levels not least from all the ex players who work for them as pundits
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #305
Great_Expectations said:
Considering the circumstances and how late in the day we are, not sure how anyone can be disappointed with one year.

It might not be beneficial long term, but it gives us another year to either negotiate for a longer term agreement, discuss potential new ground sites or sell to a new owner. However unlikely some of those are. Plus, we can watch Wasps suffer even further on and off the pitch, enhancing our bargaining position even further while still being at the Ricoh.

But most importantly we have another year in Coventry which allows MR to strengthen us further over the summer without the disaster of a ground share or potential explusion.
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I'd agree with you, but each year this happens promotes exhaustion, and less likelihood people actually care if/when we move.
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #306
"ceetee" I agee too short a time to satisfy the demands of the ELF settle a 1year deal but over the summer sit down and see if there is anyway a deal could be done because surely in the long term it is far better 2 sides playing in 1 ground. I don't like the way things have started Sisu saying" we have an option on groundshare" and Wasps saying "there still issues to be resolved" Why say that ? Stop trying to put each others back up.Please just get on and talk.I do hope they are sucessfull other wise the future for both might be bad.
 

SBAndy

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #307
Nick said:
Not even that if people boycott it will force the club into admin so the fans can take it over?

The media should just blacklist him rather than entertain his nonsense.

Why is his view about our home games relevant after he has been boycotting for a reason that doesn't exist?
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What is this “boycotting for a reason that doesn’t exist”? I’ve seen it a few times (and I’m not doubting it is the case) but what is the reason he gave for boycotting?
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #308
With the likely deal and contribution CCFC will make, Wasps could still be in the shite with their bond anyway
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #309
SBAndy said:
What is this “boycotting for a reason that doesn’t exist”? I’ve seen it a few times (and I’m not doubting it is the case) but what is the reason he gave for boycotting?
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Said he was boycotting because without a season ticket he couldn't sit near his mates.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #310
Ashdown said:
With the likely deal and contribution CCFC will make, Wasps could still be in the shite with their bond anyway
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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #311
SBAndy said:
What is this “boycotting for a reason that doesn’t exist”? I’ve seen it a few times (and I’m not doubting it is the case) but what is the reason he gave for boycotting?
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He did an interview and said he won't go to games because he couldn't sit by his mates without a season ticket.

He could if he had wanted to and strangely managed to when it came to a "protest".
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #312
Ashdown said:
With the likely deal and contribution CCFC will make, Wasps could still be in the shite with their bond anyway
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They’ve got until 2022 to pay it off - unless that has changed! - I reckon they will pay it off, as they’re getting two payments from the Premier League which is 2/3 of the bond.


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Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #313
RoboCCFC90 said:
They’ve got until 2022 to pay it off - unless that has changed! - I reckon they will pay it off, as they’re getting two payments from the Premier League which is 2/3 of the bond.


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They payment they're getting from the league is £17m-£19m. If they use this to pay back a chunk of the bond then they are still left with £15m-£20m to pay off while they continue to lose £9m a year and have no money to build a new training complex and also deal with the other £25m in debt they have.

If they use the CVC payment to build a new training centre as the league has suggested then they will still have the whole £35m to pay off and with less chance of finding a good rate or refinancing due to them being found to be trying to get fraudulent information past auditors.

Whatever way you look at it they're not in a good place.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #314
Christ Johnson is even on midlands today now
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 24, 2019
  • #315
Lol you don’t concentrate on the football always worrying about the situation -you are never there David
 
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