A bid of £10m is slightly different to a bid of £3m.So you're now saying by your own statements previously that we would be trying to get Hughes on the cheap then .
You're full of contradictions.
No chance. Think we are limited to 1 at best.Would take both and look to offload Lati . That would be real depth and quality in the centre back department
I know , wishful thinkingNo chance. Think we are limited to 1 at best.
Isn't that how most negotiations start in all areas of life , not just footballWe probably low-balled Hull for Hughes. Much like Southampton low-balled us for Rudoni, Wolfsburg low-balled us for MVE and Sheff Utd low-balled us for Thomas
Eccles is not even available for selection yet, and haven't the other 3 players already played in the first team.It would help your arguments greatly if you got basic facts right.You’re missing my point.
Doug and Dean sit down last season and decide were going to sell Milan. Well first we should see if anyone is out there who might pay £10m for a RB outside the PL and if so what other options are on the market. Basically is this a thing that’s actually going to happen or not? We aren’t taking him to CEX we need an interested buyer and that kind of deal takes months to finalise. If there were no serious buyers sniffing at the start of the summer it’s time for plan B.
But again if we were hanging everything of a big sale why the bids for players? We’ve clearly got money but feel the squad is too big maybe, so why extend Eccles Allen Bidwell and Wilson who are all nowhere near the first team?
It’s shit management decision after shit management decision I’m sorry. An no I don’t accept Lampard just doesn’t want to sign anyone.
Yes, but people on here can’t seem to grasp thatIsn't that how most negotiations start in all areas of life , not just football
Eccles is not even available for selection yet, and haven't the other 3 players already played in the first team.It would help your arguments greatly if you got basic facts right.
Of course it's always so easy to make criticisms, when you don't know, like everybody else what has actually transpired over the close season.What conversations have taken place, what players have only recently became available, what clubs are valuing players, what salaries players are demanding.
It's always so easy to write huge cheques, that you don't have any responsibility to honour.
Yet you are the type who would pay the asking price straight up for a house instead of negotiating. Wierd.A bid of £10m is slightly different to a bid of £3m.
Chris you come across as someone who is a complete yes man. Unable to criticise the board, but able to criticise BTA at any junction... interesting.
Perhaps you are Will King.
No I'd just offer something a lot more realistic.Yet you are the type who would pay the asking price straight up for a house instead of negotiating. Wierd.
Which is 13 full games more than all of our current defence combined. Thanks for proving my point.He did in the championship but lets not be ridiculous about a lot of games in the prem. He played the equivalent of 13 full games.
It's just absolute rubbish isn't it, Eccles nowhere near the first team? Plus all those 4 will be on relative peanuts wage wise.why extend Eccles Allen Bidwell and Wilson who are all nowhere near the first team?
Is that a lot?Which is 13 full games more than all of our current defence combined. Thanks for proving my point.
In my opinion no. Consider how much better and more experience he has to Binks at supposedly £2.5mIf we spend upwards of £5m on Woolfenden is that too much?
For someone with such limited debating ability you seem to post a lot on a public forum. Childish comments just show you up for what you are. Still at least the schools go back soon.No I'd just offer something a lot more realistic.
You probably offer £1 for a pair of used knickers on facebook marketplace.
oh and its I before E except after C.
Well considering they were last season yes its relevant. Plus you ignored the 40+ games he played in a promotion winning team.Is that a lot?
Despite getting 2 clueless poo poo's i actually agree with you.
Both Woolfenden and Godo are bench players, being brought in to add cover rather than to improve our first 11.
They may be far better than Binks or Raphael, but the squad improvement would be incremental rather than substantial.
And the cost disproportionate.
If we spend upwards of £5m on Woolfenden is that too much?
It's just absolute rubbish isn't it, Eccles nowhere near the first team? Plus all those 4 will be on relative peanuts wage wise.
eh?You’ve got to assume we need the wage bill down or we’d have spent the money we’ve been bidding
eh?
Surely if we're bidding it we're ready to sign players....?
Or you think we're waiting for a bid to be accepted, then we'll leave them hanging while we sort exits?
Why do we think we have seen limited exits, even the likes of Obikwu on loan?
Are we asking for too much for these players that we want out?
Even so, the fact Norman hasn't gone yet is odd also!Frank's always said he likes a big squad to work with in training, I'd put it down to that. Would expect Obikwu to take over Norms minutes as well
I mean the main bids have been for Rushworth and Hughes (and now Woolfenden). We signed Rushworth, Hull are quoting this silly £20m figure for Hughes, which they'll never get, and Woolfenden looks like it could still be on.Yeah but we’re not getting anyone so again are the targets too much? Do we not have enough to offer? Have we no backups? Because it seems we’ve had money from day one and not managed to get any first team outfield signings over the line or any first team permanent signings.
Woolfenden played 40 times for a team that won this league and about 15 times last year in the PLI just don’t want us to spunk money in panic mode on Woolfenden if he isn’t ’the one’ sort of thing.
This Hughes player sounded really promising and had a potential strong on sale value.
Don’t know how much we’ve bid for Woolfenden but if it’s above £4m I’d rather us just look for a loan to cover for the short term until Jan seeming as we are now late into the summer and teams are likely not wanting to sell at this late.
A loan would be more ideal in my eyes. Didn’t Burnley have a huge stock of centre backs or have they cleared a few of them out now?
I swear I read Alfie Gilchrist could go for £1m, could offer cover for both CB and RB.
Would rather us pay £1m for Gilchrist or ideally get him on loan if it’s only going to be cover anyways if we aren’t selling Thomas than spend over and above £4m on Woolfenden
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Brum and Wrexham have to as they are newly promoted teams that seriously needed to strengthen.Look across the division. Birmingham and Wrexham are busy paying stupid money to expand their squads but even the parachute clubs haven't particularly splashed the cash.
No they played in a first team game which you claimed they hadn't. And they have been on the bench for the league games. Eccles played in plenty of games last year including the play off game at Sunderland.Wilson, Bidwell and Allen haven’t they’ve played with the kids in essentially a reserve match. And Eccles isn’t getting in ahead of Sheaf and Torp lol.
We need better than them. In Bidwells case we don’t need him at all really. Squad management isn’t just freezing the squad is aspic, you’ve got to prune players that fall out of favour due to age or ability to allow space for new signings with more quality or potential.
Wilson, Bidwell and Allen haven’t they’ve played with the kids in essentially a reserve match. And Eccles isn’t getting in ahead of Sheaf and Torp lol.
We need better than them. In Bidwells case we don’t need him at all really. Squad management isn’t just freezing the squad is aspic, you’ve got to prune players that fall out of favour due to age or ability to allow space for new signings with more quality or potential.
Strange conclusion to come to . I would have thought that it was more applicable to yourself who advocates paying whatever fee a club asks for .A bid of £10m is slightly different to a bid of £3m.
Chris you come across as someone who is a complete yes man. Unable to criticise the board, but able to criticise BTA at any junction... interesting.
Perhaps you are Will King.
So you definitely know that our bid was £3M. You must be very privileged as nobody else on here seems to be aware of that.A bid of £10m is slightly different to a bid of £3m.
Chris you come across as someone who is a complete yes man. Unable to criticise the board, but able to criticise BTA at any junction... interesting.
Perhaps you are Will King.
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