Gibbo
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Faster than McFadz and more skillful than McNally but hey whatever.
Faster than McFadz and more skillful than McNally but hey whatever.Big Mo
Doyle wasn't even the best centre back at the club while he was here
This is what City and other teams in the Championship are competing with, a relegated PL team dropping £20m+ on a player from a rival club.
This would be a record transfer fee paid for a player in this division.
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I personally think if we can get Callum Doyle on a loan to buy for £10m, it would be a steal.
I see Wrexham flashing the cash again just bought a player from Ipswich for £7.5 million.Faster than McFadz and more skillful than McNally but hey whatever.
Out of the options we have got…I would start him.It's gonna be BTA starting against Hull, isn't it??!!
Not a massive fan of the high line with Championship teams in general to be honest, whether it's pace or positional awareness, or turning the ball over in dangerous areas, it's asking for trouble and got us exactly that quite often.But we played a very deep back line. The only reason pace is being mentioned is because of the high line we play. Of course you don’t need pace to a be a top cb but it’s probably an attribute Lampard will look for alongside Thomas.
But the back 3 is the important factor there.Look no further than McFadzean playing in a back 3. Clearly very little pace in his legs but he had great positional awareness, communication and aerial strength.
Not a massive fan of the high line with Championship teams in general to be honest, whether it's pace or positional awareness, or turning the ball over in dangerous areas, it's asking for trouble and got us exactly that quite often.
If we continue just playing in the same way you could put Usain Bolt in defence, it won't stop us getting picked off so frequently.
We finished 5th with him. How could that be mid table? Sunderland finished 5th with him. Leicester finished 1st with him playing over a 1/3 of their games.He played around half the games he was available for Leicester. We were a mid table side like Norwich. We still are.
As above, I'm not convinced we should exclusively be playing it in the first place. Strikes me as one of these elite level tactical trends that's come in, a bit like AAATB and cramming your own 6 yard box at corners, that works with elite or at least top end for the level players, but is asking for trouble when you lack either.But the back 3 is the important factor there.
When he was played in a two that lack of pace became a big problem.
I agree that positional awareness and anticipation are more important than having pace to recover but if you're playing a high line as FL seems to then having that pace as well becomes more important.
This notion that you need to be rapid to be a good centre half is bullshit peddled by people that have never played the game.
I would rather have a slower centre half who can read the game and is excellent positionally than a quick centre half who struggles with those attributes
Calling the top 6 as 'upper mid table' is an interesting take from him.We finished 5th with him. How could that be mid table? Sunderland finished 5th with him. Leicester finished 1st with him playing over a 1/3 of their games.
Not bad for a 21 year old whichever way you try to put it.
Faster than McFadz and more skillful than McNally but hey whatever.
The defence fell off a cliff when McF got injured then magically got solid again when he returnedHe needed McFadz to coach him through games while he was here, at the time McFadz was our number one centre half.
He was 18 when he joined us. Do you think he has improved since then?Big Mo
Doyle wasn't even the best centre back at the club while he was here
Or on the other hand a top 5 club.....We’re upper mid table in the crowd 5-12.
he's a great player but people are valid when they say is he suited to the current systemMost defenders when their team is attacking get up to the half way line.
I get the point you are making and it is valid. Pace is so important in the modern game. But it also depends on who else you have in your defence with pace.
Doyle may not be lightening quick but he isn't a complete cart horse. He covered McFadzean's arse with recovery runs on plenty of occasions when he was here.
Or on the other hand a top 5 club.....
He was 18 and playing at the highest level he’d ever played at, it’s hardly surprising he needed mentoring at the time!He needed McFadz to coach him through games while he was here, at the time McFadz was our number one centre half.
How many ITKs is that now xDAre you sure !!
Might live to regret that comment in next 48 hours or so.
What relevance does that have to the point that he was not the best centre back at the club at that time.He was 18 when he joined us. Do you think he has improved since then?
How many ITKs is that now xD
I swear he called the Kitching transfer from BarnsleyHow many ITKs is that now xD
I swear he called the Kitching transfer
If 5th twice and the closest offside call which was done in seconds when a bigger gap normally takes longer from an FA cup final in 3 seasons is said to be a mid table side I would put us as closer to a top 5 sideThat’s one very optimistic way of phrasing it. We’ve finished fifth twice. The point is the jump to 4th and likely promotion is a big one and will require better than we’ve got.
Well in that case, I welcome our northern not itk. Hopefully he’s spot onI don’t this he is ITK but has some sort of connection up north. Can’t remember if it’s one of the Sheffield clubs or something.
RotherhamI don’t this he is ITK but has some sort of connection up north. Can’t remember if it’s one of the Sheffield clubs or something.
Rotherham
Though I think it's probably any of the south Yorkshire clubs.
Yeah I remember, it's one near Sheffield.I don’t this he is ITK but has some sort of connection up north. Can’t remember if it’s one of the Sheffield clubs or something.
Yep.... And people are serious about us being "top 2"!!!!This is what City and other teams in the Championship are competing with, a relegated PL team dropping £20m+ on a player from a rival club.
This would be a record transfer fee paid for a player in this division.
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I personally think if we can get Callum Doyle on a loan to buy for £10m, it would be a steal.
It's certainly not impossible, but very much improbable to be a top two side.Yep.... And people are serious about us being "top 2"!!!!
If Doyle isn’t the right replacement for LBC, what options are there for a better LCB than Binks with pace, under 25, and under £6M?
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