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Freddie

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,471
Announce Louza.....
 

Terry_dactyl

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,472
WestEndAgro said:
Everyone who's commented about chocolate is now on ignore, take that bollock's elsewhere.
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Calm down mate. Have a break, have a…
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,473
Otis said:
I don't think many, if anyone, is saying we're doomed.

Grimes, until about 4 games ago, was probably our player of the season and one of the main reasons we were flying away with it at the top.

I am a really big fan of Eccles, but Eccles can't do Grimes' job.

If Grimes for a long term injury, we would struggle, I'm sure. Torp's injury prone and has been out for a number of spells, or the odd game or two here and there.

We could easily get caught out of we don't get a CM in and it does seem like we are indeed aiming for a CM.

If Dasilva got injured, I don't feel that Bidwell or Brau are able to step up.

Not saying we are doomed by any means, but we could get into trouble if we don't have good cover for every position.

And hardly anyone is calling for 4 or 5 players
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Grimes has been superb this season and I want to see him play every minute of every remaining game this season if possible - I imagine Lampard agrees.

If he’s not able to do that then we do indeed have a problem, but that is not a problem we are able to solve by signing a Grimes-level replacement who is magically both available and willing to sit on the bench for much of the next 18 games. Given that a player of Grimes’ ability will likely only be barely good enough for the PL next season, that further complicates who you decide to bring in and when.

If you can find that player and you can bring them in without it hampering our business in the summer then I’m all for it. We’ve done so twice already this window in positions where we really didn’t have any cover and it’s made the squad look so much stronger. Where I disagree with many people is that doing this two more times this window is a dealbreaker for whether or not we get promoted. Personally I back the players who’ve got us this far to finish the job, and the backups we already have to fill in if required in the limited time left.
 
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procdoc

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,474
SBT said:
The vitriol that this one opinion of mine inspires is really quite something
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It’s not vitriol. I struggle to understand why you wouldn’t want us to strengthen our position when we will likely never get a better chance to go up
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,475
procdoc said:
It’s not vitriol. I struggle to understand why you wouldn’t want us to strengthen our position when we will likely never get a better chance to up
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Because he wants the players who’ve got us there to see us over the line.

It’s unnecessarily risky imo
 
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Lamps

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,476
chiefdave said:
This is the thing. People always talk about transfers like it's ordering players off Amazon. You've got to have the right players available and even if they are you've still got to persuade both the club and the player to come in.

We have no idea who has been identified and what attempts have been made to sign someone. Not sure you can just default to its being Kings fault if more players don't arrive before the deadline.
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We have a few people on here that either don't understand the complexities of transfers or are simply WUM's.

We are where we are because of King. He isn't going to risk losing 180m just for not doing what is best. It isn't King choosing the players. He just does the negotiating.
 
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procdoc

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,477
Ccfcisparks said:
Because he wants the players who’ve got us there to see us over the line.

It’s unnecessarily risky imo
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It’s lunacy not to want to bring in at least a quality central midfielder, considering Torp struggles to put together a run of games and Rudoni’s form has fell off a cliff
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,478
procdoc said:
It’s not vitriol. I struggle to understand why you wouldn’t want us to strengthen our position when we will likely never get a better chance to go up
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As explained above, it’s not just about strengthening our position, it’s about making sure you don’t do so in a way that limits what you can do in the summer. Loaning someone like Esse clearly doesn’t. Signing someone like Dan Neil probably would.

I happily admit there’s an element of risk to that, but it’s offset by our likelihood of promotion, and I think people are wildly overestimating the chances of two teams overtaking us at this stage.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,479
SBT said:
As explained above, it’s not just about strengthening our position, it’s about making sure you don’t do so in a way that limits what you can do in the summer. Loaning someone like Esse clearly doesn’t. Signing someone like Dan Neil probably would.

I happily admit there’s an element of risk to that, but it’s offset by our likelihood of promotion, and I think people are wildly overestimating the chances of two teams overtaking us at this stage.
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Why would signing Neil limit us in the summer. Genuine question?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,480
Otis said:
Agreed

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Deity

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,481
Ccfcisparks said:
Why would signing Neil limit us in the summer. Genuine question?
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Because IF he isn’t good enough for a higher league and we IF got promoted that deal would take a chunk of both signing fees and player wages away from the squad strengthening in the summer.

The issue is does he materially improve our chances of promotion…. Different fans have different views on that
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,482
Trueskyblue20 said:
Esse was a smart signing as we needed cover on the wings and someone to push/rotate with Tats.

It definitely isn’t a statement signing however
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The guy was signed by a prem team for £15m last season after putting up league leading numbers in the championship.

He’s an obvious upgrade on Sakamoto who is already a good winger. Esse would start for most, if not all Championship clubs this if he hits the form that earned him a move to Palace.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,483
WestEndAgro said:
Everyone who's commented about chocolate is now on ignore, take that bollock's elsewhere.
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Blame the silly twat who started saying people who think we need another signing are jealous. Not only backwards logic, but idiotic anyway.
 

mrtrench

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,484
Mucca Mad Boys said:
The guy was signed by a prem team for £15m last season after putting up league leading numbers in the championship.

He’s an obvious upgrade on Sakamoto who is already a good winger. Esse would start for most, if not all Championship clubs this if he hits the form that earned him a move to Palace.
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I'd argue it's not obvious yet from his performances for us. If Tats were the same age he'd be worth at least the same. Can only assume Tatsu wasn't as good when he was 20.
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,485
Ccfcisparks said:
Why would signing Neil limit us in the summer. Genuine question?
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Because his wages and transfer fee would be a non-trivial amount and I would rather that every available £ (and squad position) go towards a player we are more confident can perform to the required standard in the PL.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,486
Deity said:
Because IF he isn’t good enough for a higher league and we IF got promoted that deal would take a chunk of both signing fees and player wages away from the squad strengthening in the summer.

The issue is does he materially improve our chances of promotion…. Different fans have different views on that
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So let me break down your post as there are a few assumptions in there

1) You say IF we get promoted, we aren’t yet. We need to do what we can NOW without thinking of the summer

2) just because sunderland have deemed him not good enough, doesn’t mean he isn’t. West Ham are interested for example. Lampard may see him as a player that would work well in our system in that league

3) who is to say it will eat into a budget next season, usually a club will allocate a budget per season. If there is room to move this season then it won’t effect the next. This also ignores the money we come into should we go up

4) it also assumes that Neil would have no resale value. Should we sign him, and decide for whatever reason he isn’t good enough he isn’t gonna go on a free, yes he may go for a few million less but that’s a drop in the ocean compared to what we would gain from the signing
 
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mmttww

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,487
at least there's only one week left of the window!

Sounds like we're after exactly the right profile of player (Martel) for where we are as a club and what the squad doesn't have already. It's all gonna hinge on how deep the list of options after the first choice is.
 

Gibbo

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,488
The main benefit of Esse has been that it has given Sakamoto a kick up the pants and made him perform better. See also the Wolfenden effect. He arrived, didn't play but we had a succession of clean sheets immediately afterwards.. Nothing like a bit of competition.

Re Otis comment above. I am not sure Eccles could not sub for Grimes in the short term, particularly as Grimes is not in the best of form
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,489
Ccfcisparks said:
4) it also assumes that Neil would have no resale value. Should we sign him, and decide for whatever reason he isn’t good enough he isn’t gonna go on a free, yes he may go for a few million less but that’s a drop in the ocean compared to what we would gain from the signing
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Why would he sign for a team that's already strategising how to flip him for a loss next season?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,490
SBT said:
Why would he sign for a team that's already strategising how to flip him for a loss next season?
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Well this is all hypothetical. i doubt we would be signing him if we didn’t think he could play a part.

Convenient you ignore all the other points
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,491
The focus has to be promotion, fuck all else matters!! No good worrying if a player isn't good enouh for the Prem if we miss out on getting there. To that end we should be strengthening depth to make sure we have enough bodies to cover injuries and suspensions.

Nothing else matters!!
 
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JSL

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,492
243 pages to date and only two loan signings to show for it so far. It's going to be an interesting next 8 days
 
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Deity

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,493
Ccfcisparks said:
So let me break down your post as there are a few assumptions in there

1) You say IF we get promoted, we aren’t yet. We need to do what we can NOW without thinking of the summer

2) just because sunderland have deemed him not good enough, doesn’t mean he isn’t. West Ham are interested for example. Lampard may see him as a player that would work well in our system in that league

3) who is to say it will eat into a budget next season, usually a club will allocate a budget per season. If there is room to move this season then it won’t effect the next. This also ignores the money we come into should we go up

4) it also assumes that Neil would have no resale value. Should we sign him, and decide for whatever reason he isn’t good enough he isn’t gonna go on a free, yes he may go for a few million less but that’s a drop in the ocean compared to what we would gain from the signing
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You can’t run a business focussing only on today.

I agree we need a new CM and I think we will get one but unless it’s a loan any signing will impact the budget we have in the summer.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,494
SBT said:
I asked you to show your working, not throw your toys out the pram.
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Toys well in pram my working is several transfer sites linking us with CMs and multiple ITKs saying we are after a CM
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,495
Ccfcisparks said:
Well this is all hypothetical. i doubt we would be signing him if we didn’t think he could play a part.

Convenient you ignore all the other points
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I'm happy to nitpick with all your other points but we don't have all day

The point is that there are more considerations at play than "I'm scared that Grimes might get hurt so let's sign another Grimes"
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,496
Deity said:
You can’t run a business focussing only on today.

I agree we need a new CM and I think we will get one but unless it’s a loan any signing will impact the budget we have in the summer.
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I think the other thing not considered is the prospect that should we get promoted the interest from other investors, or maybe even the sale of the club which could boost finances.

To me, any fee we pay now is immaterial compared to what we could benefit
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,497
SBT said:
I'm happy to nitpick with all your other points but we don't have all day

The point is that there are more considerations at play than "I'm scared that Grimes might get hurt so let's sign another Grimes"
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can you nitpick please, interested to know your thoughts
 
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bradwellskyblues

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,498
Onyeka not in Brentford squad today
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,499
shmmeee said:
Toys well in pram my working is several transfer sites linking us with CMs and multiple ITKs saying we are after a CM
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Well yeah, sorry, I don't think that Saddle and Alan Nixon etc are concrete proof of what the club is thinking right now, but I guess we'll see
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,500
Ccfcisparks said:
Whats everyones underrated chocolate bar.

I dont often have a Blue Riband, but whenever I do I'm never disappointed.
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Agree on Blue Riband, Tunnocks Caramel Wafers are a bit the same.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,501
SBT said:
Well yeah, sorry, I don't think that Saddle and Alan Nixon etc are concrete proof of what the club is thinking right now, but I guess we'll see
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Haha ok. Guess they all got together to pull our leg. The rascals.
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,502
Ccfcisparks said:
can you nitpick please, interested to know your thoughts
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Don't be so thirsty! But since you're so keen:

1. We quite clearly need to strategise for future windows, we're not Ridsdale-era Leeds
2. Sunderland offloading him is a strong indicator that he's not up to scratch in the PL. Personally I also aspire to be better than West Ham (who are currently 18th)
3. "Who is it to say it will eat into the budget next season" - the bank manager, probably?
 

baldy

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,503
WestEndAgro said:
Everyone who's commented about chocolate is now on ignore, take that bollock's elsewhere.
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A bit angry aren't you? Mind you,you're not yourself if you haven't had a....
 
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procdoc

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,504
SBT said:
Because his wages and transfer fee would be a non-trivial amount and I would rather that every available £ (and squad position) go towards a player we are more confident can perform to the required standard in the PL.
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We aren’t in the PL though. Dropping 6 million for example on a player that is going to help seal promotion is a drop in the ocean compared to the riches we will have if we get promoted
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 25, 2026
  • #8,505
SBT said:
Don't be so thirsty! But since you're so keen:

1. We quite clearly need to strategise for future windows, we're not Ridsdale-era Leeds
2. Sunderland offloading him is a strong indicator that he's not up to scratch in the PL. Personally I also aspire to be better than West Ham (who are currently 18th)
3. "Who is it to say it will eat into the budget next season" - the bank manager, probably?
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1) If we sign a player now its because it wouldnt impact a future window
2) You do realise Sunderland are in 10th?
3) The bank manager will not manage the budget
 
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